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ETP · Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 1192 Location: UK

Hi greengeek,

In Greek mythology, Cerberus (/ˈsɜːrbərəs/;[2] Greek: Κέρβερος Kerberos [ˈkerberos]), often called the "hound of Hades", is a monstrous multi-headed dog, who guards the gates of the underworld, preventing the dead from leaving. He was the offspring of the monsters Echidna and Typhon, and is usually described as having three heads, a serpent for a tail, with snakes protruding from various parts of his body. Cerberus is primarily known for his capture by Heracles, one of Heracles' twelve labours.

The Puppy version can be found here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70736 Smile

greengeek · Posted: Mon 14 Nov 2016, 15:43 Post subject:

Aaaah, that comment made me chuckle and weep. Thanks ETP. Certainly a read of the first post for 3HD makes it look like a hybrid FrankenPup from Hell but based on the comments of some of the users it looks like a distro well worth keeping in the back kennel for the days when nothing else works.

For now, your description was enough to make me want to keep my distance Smile

peebee · Last edited by peebee on Sat 19 Nov 2016, 03:13; edited 2 times in total

Just an experiment - probably won't be maintained

Download from SourceForge

A Woof-CE-Rationalise build using the attached config files

A cut down version of slacko-6.9.6.4 (interested to hear if anything else should have been removed). xserver_xorg_thin copied from THINSlacko-5.3.3t

Kernel in zdrv is 4.8.8 32-bit pae

No browser or firmware in the iso - an adrv with the light-48 webbrowser and an fdrv with firmware (e.g. for wifi) are in the download folder. Size still comes out at 175MB even with all these cuts....

Items removed compared to slacko-6.9.6.4 are:

Pelo · Posted: Fri 18 Nov 2016, 09:07 Post subject: How much are Thin, or Slim

Thin, slim... browser included or not...
Your Thin is bigger than Slim x-Slacko by mistfire xslacko-slim-Auguste.iso: 156 M (browser included)
Thin Slacko 5.3.3 Slacko-5.3.3thin-SCSI.iso: 100 M (browser included) is much lighter than Slim X-Slacko.
slimX-6.iso: 170 M....
The Puppy OS has to be fluent on 512MB ACER aspire 1640, where x-slim slacko is not. That is the challenge. Thin 5.3.3 is fluent but has a bug for pupsaves.
mistfire process to trim the fat.
Windows XP ended around 2011. We need drivers for computers 2011 and older. Drivers and libs for newer technologies (3D, Dri, bluetooth) are useless and fill the RAM.
Computers with Windows 7 generally have at least 1GB RAM and can run all standard puppies, no need to delete the Included browser or something else.

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 5528 Location: GB

16-16.11: interesting. No browser installed in basic, as advertised - probably not generally acceptable?

jlst · Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Posts: 571

greengeek · Posted: Fri 18 Nov 2016, 14:33 Post subject:

jlst · Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Posts: 571

Fossil · Posted: Fri 18 Nov 2016, 17:53 Post subject:

@Sage

ally · Joined: 19 May 2012 Posts: 1974 Location: lincoln, uk

http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_mean-puppy-2.02-opera

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8Geee · Joined: 12 May 2008 Posts: 2154 Location: N.E. USA

@ Peebee

Wow, that 4.8.x kernel is big. A long-term solution might be better accomplished using
k3.16.37 (or 38 if ready). It might also be a bit smaller.

Regards
8Geee

jlst · Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Posts: 571

The size of the kernel and firmware is important too. I've been increasing the kernel size and firmware for my personal builds, because i don't like trying puppies, i want a universal one for me as i don't have time for scientific research about making things work when things are missing. I know how to deal with a big puppy having even 256MB of ram, i repackage the sfs with no compression and avoid loading anything into ram or i just perform a full install. the only reason i have for relative small puppies is because i have to build them and test them, so i need something somewhat small to perform this operation over and over again.

for my precise unofficial release i think i'll go with a tiny core kernel config and firmware, dillo and a few essential apps i can't live without (some lxde apps, engrampa, deadbeef). it will be semi barebones (many libs though) but probably not as small as it should be.. i estimate 120-150MB gzipped. just a test that will become something else for my personal use.

this is the tiny core kernel config i'm talking about: http://tinycorelinux.net/6.x/x86/release/src/kernel/ then i have to look for the corresponding kernel firmware.. of course i will offer absolutely no support...

TeX Dog · Joined: 06 Jul 2016 Posts: 341

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 5528 Location: GB

Wow! You folks, Fossil, ally, 8G are on the ball - I couldn't find it. At that time (~10yrs ago) there was a move to provide a complete OS that would fit on a credit card CD - John's was the best. He spoke about further possible upgrades, but, like the rest of us, life moved on.

As for the arguments about supplementary additions to a base distro - fine, but it's a cludge. What is needed is a basic distro like MeanPup, a working browser (Opera), a secure kernel, easy availability of video & printer drivers and a comprehensive PPM. Anything more is overkill, frills, not to say developers ego trip in many of the listings, eg on DistroWatch & co. We all know where coding bloat was born. Remember K.I.S.S. All the most important scientific innovations have been reduced to a single-line equation, viz. e=mc^2, the Dirac, the Hamiltonian, etc. John Murga, Barry Kauler and a few others are fortunately endowed with such clear thought that they are able to reduce their code ad minimus, thereby achieving elegance.

Fossil · Posted: Sat 19 Nov 2016, 09:10 Post subject: