I tried Super 4 and it booted to a black screen. That happened with the first Super4 but I was hoping that the later version would work. I tried Tahr64-605 and, to my great surprise, it booted and seems to run OK, so kernel 3.14.54 is OK on this machine.
However, Tahrpup64 has the same network problem, TEST fails, AutoDHCP works fine. I'll try the latest Super2 next but I'm loosing hope.
On the T400 laptop, I had problems with 3HD. Using Tahr64 and using Frisbee, I suspect that there are still problems. Initially it reports that eth0 is down. Then, it connects with wlan0. After connecting with wlan0, it changes its mind and switches successfully to eth0. I haven't worked out how to shut off the radios on this laptop in Puppy as yet, so I only suspect that its the same problem as my desktop has.
Greengeek, the problem is not just at bootup. Persistent retries in a session always act the same.
Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.7 - Nov., 2017 - Final
Upgrading to Latest Sulu2
I have been running a very old version of Sulu2. I have just downloaded the latest Sulu2. Is it safe to use my existing save folder?
Re: Strange network connection issue - Upgrading to Latest S
Ok, I backed up the sulusave directory and booted the latest Sulu2. It appeared to work with no problems.
Unfortunately, there was no improvement with the network issue. I haven't checked Frisbee, as I appear to be stuck with Dougal's wizard. How do I change that?
Unfortunately, there was no improvement with the network issue. I haven't checked Frisbee, as I appear to be stuck with Dougal's wizard. How do I change that?
Re: Strange network connection issue
OK, found the network wizard. Got confused by the difference between Tahr and Sulu 
.
I now have Frisbee on both the new Sulu2 and the Tahr64-605 pups on this desktop. They both now connect automatically. The reason is, I think, that whereas Dougal's wizard gave up when it couldn't find eth0 and had to be manually "pushed" to try AutoDHCP, Frisbee keeps on trying.
Running Frisbee, with both Tahr and Sulu, I get and initial pop-up saying eth0 is down. about 15 seconds later I get another pop-up announcing that an attempt to connect is underway and eventually I get the message that 192..etc. has been set-up.
The process can be lived with but it's a bit slow. Previously, before I moved to the wall jack set-up, I never really noticed any delay between the desktop appearing and the network being available. Now it takes nearly 20 seconds with Tahr and somewhat longer for Sulu.
There is another odd thing. Sulu seems to connect to the internet very much more slowly than Tahr. I have made a series of speedtest.net checks. I did a test in Tahr, rebooted and ran a test in Sulu, rebooted to Tahr etc etc. Here are the download speeds:
Tahr ............................ Sulu
91 ............................ --
-- ............................ 51.5
89.2 ............................ --
-- ............................ 47.7
71.7 ............................ --
-- ............................ 21.1
92 ............................ --
-- ............................ 51
91.3 ............................ --
-- ............................ 31.9
90.6 ............................ --
-- ............................ 54.9
71.6
The speed variation is normal for this time of night and probably arises from issues well upstream of my house demarcation point. However,I think that it's pretty clear that for some reason there is a significant difference in favour of Tahr in respect of the speeds.
I could live with even the worst speeds if I had to, compared with ADSL they are still terrific. And with peak speeds over 90 Meg I don't think my wiring can be that bad, considering it's only wired for 100BaseT. So I'm happy. Still, it might be interesting if someone with expertise to was to find all this sufficiently intriguing to try and figure it out.
.I now have Frisbee on both the new Sulu2 and the Tahr64-605 pups on this desktop. They both now connect automatically. The reason is, I think, that whereas Dougal's wizard gave up when it couldn't find eth0 and had to be manually "pushed" to try AutoDHCP, Frisbee keeps on trying.
Running Frisbee, with both Tahr and Sulu, I get and initial pop-up saying eth0 is down. about 15 seconds later I get another pop-up announcing that an attempt to connect is underway and eventually I get the message that 192..etc. has been set-up.
The process can be lived with but it's a bit slow. Previously, before I moved to the wall jack set-up, I never really noticed any delay between the desktop appearing and the network being available. Now it takes nearly 20 seconds with Tahr and somewhat longer for Sulu.
There is another odd thing. Sulu seems to connect to the internet very much more slowly than Tahr. I have made a series of speedtest.net checks. I did a test in Tahr, rebooted and ran a test in Sulu, rebooted to Tahr etc etc. Here are the download speeds:
Tahr ............................ Sulu
91 ............................ --
-- ............................ 51.5
89.2 ............................ --
-- ............................ 47.7
71.7 ............................ --
-- ............................ 21.1
92 ............................ --
-- ............................ 51
91.3 ............................ --
-- ............................ 31.9
90.6 ............................ --
-- ............................ 54.9
71.6
The speed variation is normal for this time of night and probably arises from issues well upstream of my house demarcation point. However,I think that it's pretty clear that for some reason there is a significant difference in favour of Tahr in respect of the speeds.
I could live with even the worst speeds if I had to, compared with ADSL they are still terrific. And with peak speeds over 90 Meg I don't think my wiring can be that bad, considering it's only wired for 100BaseT. So I'm happy. Still, it might be interesting if someone with expertise to was to find all this sufficiently intriguing to try and figure it out.
Boilers, dimmer switches, plasma tvs, all sorts of other issues
can affect adsl.
http://www.internode.on.net/support/gui ... ng_adsl2_/
Also read >> percher...half way down page.
although alaan is usually my favourite.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-re ... ?t=2304393
Lamps baby monitors.
" One in five households is suffering from poor Internet connection because their router is placed too close to a lamp, phone, stereo or
baby monitor, the telecoms watchdog warns.
Sharon White, chief executive of Ofcom, says many homes receive a
fast broadband connection through their phone line, only for the
signal to be hit by "interference" on its way to a computer or tablet. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/shoppin ... -says.html
Chris.
can affect adsl.
http://www.internode.on.net/support/gui ... ng_adsl2_/
Also read >> percher...half way down page.
although alaan is usually my favourite.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-re ... ?t=2304393
Lamps baby monitors.
" One in five households is suffering from poor Internet connection because their router is placed too close to a lamp, phone, stereo or
baby monitor, the telecoms watchdog warns.
Sharon White, chief executive of Ofcom, says many homes receive a
fast broadband connection through their phone line, only for the
signal to be hit by "interference" on its way to a computer or tablet. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/shoppin ... -says.html
Chris.
Hi cthisbear,
No ADSL, All fibre from the ISP to the ONT next to my router and cat5e from there to the desktop computer. Also, no boilers, dimmers etc and my wife would go crazy if her AM radio got any interference.
We'd better not hiajck this thread any longer, unless rerwin thinks it worthwhile to investigate.
No ADSL, All fibre from the ISP to the ONT next to my router and cat5e from there to the desktop computer. Also, no boilers, dimmers etc and my wife would go crazy if her AM radio got any interference.
We'd better not hiajck this thread any longer, unless rerwin thinks it worthwhile to investigate.
If rerwin is able to look at it, and if you have the patience to continue testing I think it would be extremely valuable to use this circumstance to troubleshoot exactly what is going on. I have seen lots of ethernet/dhcp connection issues with various puppies in circumstances where windows has no problem so it would be great to pin down whats going on in this case. Any results might have a positive impact across other puppies too.Snail wrote:We'd better not hiajck this thread any longer, unless rerwin thinks it worthwhile to investigate.
If you are convinced that the pin to pin wiring is still exactly the same as what it was before then surely it can only be wiring resistance/capacitance/inductance causing problems and if so why can windows hack it but puppy can't?
I would suggest the following steps:
1) Confirm that you can go back to the original conditions - eg no connection problems when you use the original cable straight out of your original router port.
2) See what circumstances you get when you hook into the cabling of other rooms (assuming there are some..)
If you have a reproducible difference in behaviour then maybe rerwin can suggest insertion of a delay command or something, somewhere in the dhcp connection code (or the "TEST" code).
Hi all 
HI snail
Hello greengeek
Its been some time since I have posted here ! But with the weather starting to get cold again well ! Boredom is setting in fast LOL !
@ snail My 2 cents ! you are lookng at a kernel problem !! "Thats not to say it cant be made better by playing with some of the values in frisbee etc. but
This sounds more like a kernel problem directly effecting your hardware !
In other words what works for one PC may not work for another etc
I personally have found trying to stay with older kernels as much as possable at least as old as I can go and still have decent working hardware !
With this said I am by no meens an expert ! But maybe use a diff version of lucid ! "Diff Kernel" And you may find it works better with your hardware ! Or you could try to build a older or more recent kernel module for your hardware !
However ! I would try a diff lucid " diff kernel" if your able too"
Again ! I am no expert but souds more like what you have goin on to me !
At any rate hope it works out for you one way or another ! Good luck !
And I also wanted to add
@rerwin ! Thanks for keeping lucid alive !!!!!!!! I hope its still fun for you and not a burden !!!!
HI snail
Hello greengeek
Its been some time since I have posted here ! But with the weather starting to get cold again well ! Boredom is setting in fast LOL !
@ snail My 2 cents ! you are lookng at a kernel problem !! "Thats not to say it cant be made better by playing with some of the values in frisbee etc. but
This sounds more like a kernel problem directly effecting your hardware !In other words what works for one PC may not work for another etc
I personally have found trying to stay with older kernels as much as possable at least as old as I can go and still have decent working hardware !
With this said I am by no meens an expert ! But maybe use a diff version of lucid ! "Diff Kernel" And you may find it works better with your hardware ! Or you could try to build a older or more recent kernel module for your hardware !
However ! I would try a diff lucid " diff kernel" if your able too"
Again ! I am no expert but souds more like what you have goin on to me !
At any rate hope it works out for you one way or another ! Good luck !
And I also wanted to add
@rerwin ! Thanks for keeping lucid alive !!!!!!!! I hope its still fun for you and not a burden !!!!
[color=red]Anyone can build a fast processor. The trick is to build a fast system. (Seymour Cray)[/color] :wink:
Helo All,
I'm looking for the devx.sfs for lupusuper2-5.2.8.7-k3.2.48. I've tried searching for it but can only find lupu_devx_528-4.sfs. Can anybody point me in the right direction to find it?
Regards,
Ken.
I'm looking for the devx.sfs for lupusuper2-5.2.8.7-k3.2.48. I've tried searching for it but can only find lupu_devx_528-4.sfs. Can anybody point me in the right direction to find it?
Regards,
Ken.
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SeaMonkey 2.40 Update PET Package
For those of you who have not already manually upgraded your installed SeaMonkey, I provide an "update" .pet that performs that upgrade, here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/9h04txm8e ... update.pet
The package replaces only the /usr/lib/seamonkey directory, leaving anything in /root unchanged, so as to retain your current settings.
Peebee has added 2.40 to the puppylinux/pet_packages-lucid repository at ibiblio.org for use by Quickpet in selecting a SeaMonkey browser. Note that it includes files in /root, so is intended only for initial installation of SeaMonkey. Use the package at the above link if you already have an older SeaMonkey installed.
Richard
http://www.mediafire.com/file/9h04txm8e ... update.pet
The package replaces only the /usr/lib/seamonkey directory, leaving anything in /root unchanged, so as to retain your current settings.
Peebee has added 2.40 to the puppylinux/pet_packages-lucid repository at ibiblio.org for use by Quickpet in selecting a SeaMonkey browser. Note that it includes files in /root, so is intended only for initial installation of SeaMonkey. Use the package at the above link if you already have an older SeaMonkey installed.
Richard
Content of the 2016 Release of Lucid Pup
Updates for Lucid Pup 2016:
Additions:
If you know of an update that I have missed or that you feel should be included, please post a request in this thread.
Richard
Additions:
- 8192cu_racy53-k3.0.25.pet (lupusuper1)
asound_include-0.3 (for potential use by pmusic, pequalizer & puppybt, et. al.) *
get_java-1.0.1.pet
gxmessage-2.12.4-1-w5c.pet
javaif-20160616.pet
peasy_dvd_player-1.3.pet
peasyport-2.0.pet
pequalizer-0.9.0.pet
psnapshot-1.9
PupsaveHotBackup-1.4_20150717.pet
samba-4.1.9-lucid-i686.pet
YASSM-2.9.pet
- alsaequal-0.6-lupu.pet
connect_updates-20160527.pet (in zz_lupu_5.2.8.7-delta)
dillo-3.0.5-i486-lucid.pet (user can delete old /root/.dillo directory.)
Extract-1.8.1-lucid.pet (adds xz support) *
frisbee-1.4.2.pet - includes frisbee_1.3.4_interface_supplement-20150607
getflash-1.6.1.pet - updated woofCE version *
gxmessage-2.12.4-1-w5c.pet *
lucid_utility_menu_fix-20160902.pet (in zz_lupu_5.2.8.7-delta)
menumaker-1.1.17.pet
pburn-4.3.17.pet (from woofCE)
pdiag-20160508.pet (sourced files updates)
peasyprint-2.9.pet
pfilesearch-2.2.pet (from woofCE)
pfind-6.2-1.pet
pgprs-2.0.1.pet
pmusic-5.2.6.pet *
pprocess-2.3.2 (from woofCE)
pschedule-1.1.7.pet (from woofCE)
PupControl-3.1 *
PupMenu-5.1 *
pupradio-0.19.pet
retrovol-0.13.1.pet
PupSysInfo-2.6.5 *
sfs_load-2.4-1.pet
tar-1.28-i686.pet
wallpaper-0.6.4-lucid.pet
zz_lupu_5.2.8.7-delta-20161216.pet (puppy infrastructure) *
- /bin/ps.sh - wrapper for ps, linked as ps (formerly ps script) *
/etc/xdg/menus/puppy-utility.menu (from lucid_utility_menu_fix-20160902)
/root/.packages/DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS - update ubuntu archive URLs
/sbin/dir2sfs - change name of file list script to match new name.
/sbin/guess_fstype - version from precise pup, to detect ext4.
/usr/bin/dir2pet - correct search for top category in hierarchy, add xz support.
/usr/bin/pet2tgz - add xz support.
/usr/bin/pupdialog - support new/updated package
/usr/lib/libgnutls.so.28 - link to so.26 for samba 4.1.9
/usr/local/apps/Connect/AppRun (from connect_updates-20160527)
/usr/local/bin/zenity - link to yad (fork of zenity)
/usr/local/desksetup/desksetup.sh - correct PuppyPin check
/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/mini-Multimedia.xpm - for pmusic
/usr/local/petget/help.htm *
/usr/local/petget/installpkg.sh - support xz-compressed pets.
/usr/local/petget/petget - correct parsing of deb name release; remove temp copy of pet file when not installed
/usr/local/pup_event/frontend_change - guess_fstype fails sometimes, when no partitions on device.
/usr/sbin/background_reshape - wjaguar rewrite
/usr/sbin/connectwizard (from connect_updates-20160527)
/usr/sbin/connectwizard_2nd (from connect_updates-20160527)
/usr/sbin/remove_builtin - fix handling of directory links & names with spaces
/usr/sbin/remaster_package_check - uninstall no-longer-necessary packages & files
/usr/sbin/variconlinks - add support for .svg icons *
/usr/share/doc/gtkdialog.txt
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/gtkdialog.png
- ca-certificates_20141019ubuntu0.10.04.1_all.deb
caps_0.4.2-1_i386.deb
libc6_2.11.1-0ubuntu7.21_i386.deb *
libc6-dev_2.11.1-0ubuntu7.21_i386.deb *
libc-bin_2.11.1-0ubuntu7.21_i386.deb *
libglibmm-2.4-1c2a_2.24.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb *
libglibmm-2.4-dev_2.24.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb *
libparted0debian1_2.2-5ubuntu5.2_i386.deb
libpoppler5_0.12.4-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb
libpoppler-glib4_0.12.4-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb
libssl0.9.8_0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.27_i386.deb
libssl-dev_0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.27_i386.deb
openssl_0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.27_i386.deb
parted_2.2-5ubuntu5.2_i386.deb
poppler-utils_0.12.4-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb
ppp_2.4.5~git20081126t100229-0ubuntu3.1_i386.deb
procps_3.2.8-1ubuntu4.3_i386.deb
python2.6_2.6.5-1ubuntu6.3_i386.deb
python_2.6.5-0ubuntu1.1_all.deb
python2.6-minimal_2.6.5-1ubuntu6.3_i386.deb
python-libxml2_2.7.6.dfsg-1ubuntu1.15_i386.deb
rsync_3.0.7-1ubuntu1.1_i386.deb
subversion_1.6.6dfsg-2ubuntu1.3_i386.deb
uuid-dev_2.17.2-0ubuntu1.10.04.2_i386.deb
wget_1.12-1.1ubuntu2.2_i386.deb
wpasupplicant_0.6.9-3ubuntu3.2_i386.deb
x11-xserver-utils_7.5+1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
xserver-common_1.7.6-2ubuntu7.12_all.deb
xserver-xorg-core_1.7.6-2ubuntu7.12_i386.deb
xserver-xorg-dev_1.7.6-2ubuntu7.12_i386.deb
xserver-xorg-input-all_7.5+5ubuntu1.1_i386.deb
xserver-xorg-video-all_7.5+5ubuntu1.1_i386.deb
xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.13.1-1ubuntu1~xup3~lucid_i386.deb
xserver-xorg-video-radeon_6.13.1-1ubuntu1~xup3~lucid_i386.deb
If you know of an update that I have missed or that you feel should be included, please post a request in this thread.
Richard
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Announcement of next release
For the 2016 release of Lucid Pup 5.2.8.7, I have updated all of the main Puppy programs that I could find with new versions, and added some new ones. In addition, I updated all of the ubuntu "deb" packages that have versions newer than those already in 5.2.8.7. The detailed list of the updates is above.
The notable improvements are:
The new release images are here:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/dh45w4 ... 16_Release
md5sum: 0131ecfcd130987112497aa677aeaae2
Initially, only the base Lucid Pup ISO file is present. Consider these early images as beta test versions. Please report any regressions or other problems.
In addition, here are links to recent versions of LibreOffice and Java:
The notable improvements are:
- - Pet packages compressed with "xz" can now be built, expanded and installed, allowing use of any available pet package and building of smaller pet files.
- File sharing support is improved by the addition of Samba server and YASSM Samba client, but with Pnethood retained.
- The "secure sockets layer" (SSL) now has the latest security fixes backported by ubuntu to lucid, to increase browsing safety.
- Java support can be kept up to date with the "get_java" downloader/package builder/installer, avoiding reliance on others to provide JRE SFS files.
- The directory of built-in file lists now includes lists for all packages added to create Lucid Pup 5.2.8.6 and 5.2.8.7, making the packages available for removal by the user or repackager.
- Dillo, from OscarTalks, is built with SSL enabled for https web pages and downloads. Package config files are now in /etc/dillo. You may wish to remove other dillo config files in /root/.dillo.
The new release images are here:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/dh45w4 ... 16_Release
md5sum: 0131ecfcd130987112497aa677aeaae2
Initially, only the base Lucid Pup ISO file is present. Consider these early images as beta test versions. Please report any regressions or other problems.
In addition, here are links to recent versions of LibreOffice and Java:
- http://www.mediafire.com/file/1ia6vk1ys ... -US_gz.sfs
md5sum: 2645e718c32a348f932a087b8313a32f
http://www.mediafire.com/file/vruu9knxp ... 586_gz.sfs
md5sum: d7afaff33321673157ac7047eea6ecab
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Re: Announcement of next release
In a new directory, I put the filesrerwin (in part) wrote:Consider these early images as beta test versions. Please report any regressions or other problems.
But when I try to boot with-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1922882 Nov 15 12:27 initrd.gz
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 184623136 Nov 15 12:27 lupu_528.sfs
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 2228976 Nov 15 12:27 vmlinuz
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root (hd0,0)
kernel /lupu2016/vmlinuz psubdir=lupu2016
initrd /lupu2016/ initrd.gz
LuPu Super2 from June 2015 works fine on this same Dell E6410.
Help, please.
Thank you,
Sheldon
Dell E6410: BusterPup, BionicPup64, Xenial, etc
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P
Try removing the psubdir=lupu2016 from the entry.
Or
I assume it is on a hard drive.
Add this to the entry: pmedia=atahd.
Or
I assume it is on a hard drive.
Add this to the entry: pmedia=atahd.
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kernel /lupu2016/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=lupu2016The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
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Newest version
Thanks, bigpup; originally, that wasn't there; I added it after the boot failure.bigpup wrote:Try removing the psubdir=lupu2016 from the entry.
OK, will try; it's on the primary drive, an SSD.Or
I assume it is on a hard drive.
Add this to the entry: pmedia=atahd.
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kernel /lupu2016/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=lupu2016
EDIT:
That didn't work. I looked at /tmp/bootlog (or some such file), and
there was something about unable to mount /dev/sda1 to /mnt/data
And dmesg also said something like that.
/dev/sda1 is ext4
Thanks again,
Sheldon
Dell E6410: BusterPup, BionicPup64, Xenial, etc
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P
Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430
Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P