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No-format install for UEFI based machines Win8 & MacTel
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Insomniacno1


Joined: 24 Jul 2009
Posts: 188

PostPosted: Mon 26 Sep 2016, 06:39    Post subject: Re: No-format install for UEFI based machines Win8 & MacTel
Subject description: simple zip file to copy needed efi file to factory formatted usbflash
 

Ted Dog wrote:
a complete package, rEFInd and grub2 ready to run inside zip. includes support security keys for linuxes in secure boot mode, and a txtfile config for standard Grub2 boots BOTH windows 8.1 hardware and Macs and fully configurable to replace grub4dos roll in newer hardware.
Preset for a few versions of puppylinux spins that can be loop booted. IE just a copy of ISO file as is, no disc to burn nor dd scary stuff.
Made to be copied by windows or MacOSX and booted using default EFI mode.

http://smokey01.com/software/utility/uefi.zip
Updated host location March2016 old datahost gave exe which is not right, its a zip file.

after opening, copy to base of a fat formatted usbdrive, then download iso files and copy to same area.

here is what the flashdrive must look like
Code:

drivers
EFI
Fatdog64-631.iso
Fatdog64-700b2.iso
grub.cfg
keys
Shellx64.efi
unicorn-6.2.1.91.iso



=== included grub.cfg === linux formatted text (should/would) change to windows style cr/lf etc next round to allow editing from windows textfile editors..


Code:

insmod png
background_image /fatdog.png
set timeout=10



menuentry "Start Fatdog64-631.iso" {
loopback loop0  (hd0,msdos1)/Fatdog64-631.iso
linux (loop0)/vmlinuz
initrd (loop0)/initrd
}
menuentry "Start Fatdog64-700b2.iso -BETA" {
loopback loop0  (hd0,msdos1)/Fatdog64-700b2.iso
linux (loop0)/vmlinuz
initrd (loop0)/initrd
}

menuentry "Start unicorn-6.2.1.91.iso -BETA VERY SLOW BOOT" {
loopback loop0  (hd0,msdos1)/unicorn-6.2.1.91.iso
linux (loop0)/vmlinuz

}

menuentry "---" { true; }
menuentry "Firmware configuration" {
   fwsetup
}
menuentry "Shutdown" {
   halt
}
menuentry "Reboot" {
   reboot
}



already like it better than non iso file method I have used for months, nicely clean since FatDog64 has same named files inside..[/url]


Hi Ted Dog, don't you need bootia32.efi too since that is the only way it will boot with 32bit UEFI systems?

JBJ
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jamesbond

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 3475
Location: The Blue Marble

PostPosted: Mon 26 Sep 2016, 08:00    Post subject: Re: No-format install for UEFI based machines Win8 & MacTel
Subject description: simple zip file to copy needed efi file to factory formatted usbflash
 

Insomniacno1 wrote:
Ted Dog wrote:
a complete package, rEFInd and grub2 ready to run inside zip. includes support security keys for linuxes in secure boot mode, and a txtfile config for standard Grub2 boots BOTH windows 8.1 hardware and Macs and fully configurable to replace grub4dos roll in newer hardware.
Preset for a few versions of puppylinux spins that can be loop booted. IE just a copy of ISO file as is, no disc to burn nor dd scary stuff.
Made to be copied by windows or MacOSX and booted using default EFI mode.

http://smokey01.com/software/utility/uefi.zip
Updated host location March2016 old datahost gave exe which is not right, its a zip file.

after opening, copy to base of a fat formatted usbdrive, then download iso files and copy to same area.

here is what the flashdrive must look like
Code:

drivers
EFI
Fatdog64-631.iso
Fatdog64-700b2.iso
grub.cfg
keys
Shellx64.efi
unicorn-6.2.1.91.iso



=== included grub.cfg === linux formatted text (should/would) change to windows style cr/lf etc next round to allow editing from windows textfile editors..


Code:

insmod png
background_image /fatdog.png
set timeout=10



menuentry "Start Fatdog64-631.iso" {
loopback loop0  (hd0,msdos1)/Fatdog64-631.iso
linux (loop0)/vmlinuz
initrd (loop0)/initrd
}
menuentry "Start Fatdog64-700b2.iso -BETA" {
loopback loop0  (hd0,msdos1)/Fatdog64-700b2.iso
linux (loop0)/vmlinuz
initrd (loop0)/initrd
}

menuentry "Start unicorn-6.2.1.91.iso -BETA VERY SLOW BOOT" {
loopback loop0  (hd0,msdos1)/unicorn-6.2.1.91.iso
linux (loop0)/vmlinuz

}

menuentry "---" { true; }
menuentry "Firmware configuration" {
   fwsetup
}
menuentry "Shutdown" {
   halt
}
menuentry "Reboot" {
   reboot
}



already like it better than non iso file method I have used for months, nicely clean since FatDog64 has same named files inside..[/url]


Hi Ted Dog, don't you need bootia32.efi too since that is the only way it will boot with 32bit UEFI systems?

JBJ


ootia32.efi is not included in the uefi.zip because I didn't build one back then.

You can get 32-bit grub2 UEFI from here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/packages/710/grub2-efi32-2.00-i686-1.txz - rename grub2.efi to bootia32.efi.

But I do not promise it will work. In fact, I have not tested it yet.

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Insomniacno1


Joined: 24 Jul 2009
Posts: 188

PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2016, 06:29    Post subject:  

Hi Jamesbond, the only file, with grub, I could find in that package is grubia32.efi - I assume this is the one you want me to rename to bootia32.efi?

I have now tried slackware both 32 and 64 bit, Fatdog 32 and 64bit and can't get any of them to boot - I just end up in a grub prompt like what happened to Ghost Dog.

I used mkusb to wipe my usb(Sandisk 32GB Dual USB drive, usb 2.0) totally, then gdisk to remove all partition tables so grub would be gone. Then formatted to Fat32 and made boot flag - and extracted the uefi.zip from first post to the usb drive and copied fatdog iso file to the usb, the edited grub.cfg with geany and made sure everything were as suppose to.

Files on usb :

drivers
EFI
Fatdog64-702.iso
grub.cfg
keys
Shellx64.efi

added the renamed grubia32.efi, now bootia32.efi to /EFI/boot/

Unmount the usb and eject it.

Then boot to Tablets boot manager, and choose boot options.
Choose EFI USB Device

I get the menu were I just leave it on Fatdog64-702.iso

It then boot and I end up in black screen - it hanged!

Same as all the other times before.

What the heck is wrong with this thing?

Should I attach usbhub and keyboard and edit some boot parameter - in that case what?

Update: My troubles continued here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=925735#925735
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mmmrr


Joined: 03 Mar 2009
Posts: 184
Location: vancouver island, canada

PostPosted: Fri 28 Oct 2016, 11:29    Post subject: very belated apologiesto ted dog and gcmartin  

about a year ago i posted, and bumped! in this thread
but i never thought that my public email address might
not automatically forward forum notifications to my private
email address: that procedure had worked well for ages.

rereading this thread last night i came upon my posts with
useful responses from ted dog and gc martin and nothing from
me. i was appalled, mortified. sorry guys.

cheers, mm
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bkbk

Joined: 05 Nov 2014
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov 2016, 12:39    Post subject:  

I tried to use this method to run 32-bit tahrpup 6.0.5_noPAE on a macbook "core 2 duo" 2.0 from 2006, but with no luck. Will this work with tahrpup?

I think I put all the right files on the flash drive. I tried to start up a few ways (holding down opt-m, opt, c) but either the macbook just started the mac os or it only presented the option to choose to start from the hard drive, which has only the mac os.
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TeX Dog

Joined: 06 Jul 2016
Posts: 341

PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov 2016, 13:11    Post subject:  

Be sure another boot loader for MS does NOT exist on same boot hardware. Older Macs are tricky key press and release both buttons After first of chime wait briefly then press release opt-m like a person possessed repetitively.
Also try opt-R Wink Its a Mac thing never gets better. - Ghost of TedDog
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