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Rodney Byne

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jun 2016, 03:55    Post subject: Pale Moon latest with updated Flash.  

Hi,
Pale Moon default 26.2.1 in Xenial Xerus 7.0.1,
updated to 26.2.2. works fine.

Luckily under Menu Internet, there's a convenient Pale Moon
updater button showing six items of choice.

Also Add-ons Shockwave Flash is currently 11.2.202.621
downloaded normally through the system.

Enjoy.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jun 2016, 21:14    Post subject: running in Wary  

I have Palemoon 26.2.2 running on an ancient Wary-based Puppy (Fluppy) via a GlibC 2.20 tweak. Took a bit of fiddling, but it works: I'm posting from it now. If anyone needs details, let me know. There probably aren't many Wary users still out there, I know.

It runs fine on a 900MHz Asus Eee PC 900 as well as faster Core 2 Duo laptops. Noticeably faster than FF 45.2.0 ESR, which is probably the last FF I'll be able to run on this OS.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jun 2016, 21:40    Post subject:  

not a lot of options; i wont use chromium because its no longer fully supported, and installs blobs. i wont use chrome because it is a blob, and i dislike mozilla because theyre abandoning any kind of reliability in terms of privacy or ethics or standards.

that leaves derivatives of webkit and mozilla, and palemoon and seamonkey are still two projects i take seriously. i dont love the bloat, but palemoon seems decent. i would support it over ff at this point.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jun 2016, 22:29    Post subject: Re: running in Wary  

ac2011 wrote:
I have Palemoon 26.2.2 running on an ancient Wary-based Puppy (Fluppy) via a GlibC 2.20 tweak. Took a bit of fiddling, but it works: I'm posting from it now. If anyone needs details, let me know. There probably aren't many Wary users still out there, I know.

It runs fine on a 900MHz Asus Eee PC 900 as well as faster Core 2 Duo laptops. Noticeably faster than FF 45.2.0 ESR, which is probably the last FF I'll be able to run on this OS.


Here are the basics, which should help anyone arriving at this thread in the future...

I originally did a temporary tweak for GlibC 2.11.3 some time ago (see this page: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81312&start=1065), but now I've also got it working for 2.20 in a similar way, using the GlibC 2.20 PET from here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=806989. I don't install the PET because that would mess up this Pup's existing GlibC. I just extract it to a temporary directory and run:

Code:
/tmp/glibc220/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /tmp/glibc220/lib/:/tmp/glibc220/usr/lib/:/tmp/glibc220/libstdc++/:/usr/X11R7/lib/:/opt/palemoon/ /opt/palemoon/palemoon "$@"


Note the additional libstdc++ library path, containing just libstdc++.so.6 which I pulled from an SFS of Skype 4.2 for Carolina.

Plugins are run separately, so to get the Flash player and other plugins to work I had to rename plugin-container to plugin-container-executable and then create a plugin-container script containing:

Code:
/tmp/glibc220/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /tmp/glibc220/lib/:/tmp/glibc220/usr/lib/:/tmp/glibc220/libstdc++/:/usr/X11R7/lib/:/opt/palemoon/ /opt/palemoon/plugin-container-executable "$@"


You don't actually need all the files in the GlibC 2.20 PET. Here's what I'm using:

Code:
  Length     Date   Time    Name
 --------    ----   ----    ----
        0  06-12-16 20:48   libstdc++/
   975012  06-12-16 20:33   libstdc++/libstdc++.so.6
        0  11-05-14 03:35   lib/
   111903  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libnss_compat-2.20.so
       13  06-12-16 21:00   lib/librt.so.1
       14  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libanl.so.1
       15  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libutil.so.1
       21  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libnss_hesiod.so.2
       17  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libresolv.so.2
       18  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libpthread.so.0
       13  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libdl.so.2
       20  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libnss_files.so.2
       17  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libnss_db.so.2
    39181  11-05-14 03:34   lib/libmemusage.so
       12  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libm.so.6
    60064  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libanl-2.20.so
       23  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1
   477229  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libnsl-2.20.so
   284942  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libresolv-2.20.so
   114946  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libcrypt-2.20.so
   686610  11-05-14 03:35   lib/ld-2.20.so
   184139  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libnss_nis-2.20.so
   179545  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libthread_db-1.0.so
    94165  11-05-14 03:34   lib/libdl-2.20.so
       14  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libnsl.so.1
       16  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libcrypt.so.1
       18  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libnss_nis.so.2
       12  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libc.so.6
       19  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libthread_db.so.1
       22  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2
    25485  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libutil-2.20.so
  1103482  11-05-14 03:34   lib/libm-2.20.so
   247329  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libnss_nisplus-2.20.so
       18  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libnss_dns.so.2
    73504  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libnss_dns-2.20.so
  8870394  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libc-2.20.so
    72467  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libnss_hesiod-2.20.so
   715463  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libpthread-2.20.so
   153652  11-05-14 03:35   lib/librt-2.20.so
       10  06-12-16 21:00   lib/ld-linux.so.2
   113889  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libnss_db-2.20.so
    18185  11-05-14 03:34   lib/libBrokenLocale-2.20.so
       15  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libcidn.so.1
    10650  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libpcprofile.so
   203211  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libnss_files-2.20.so
    50717  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libSegFault.so
   251932  11-05-14 03:35   lib/libcidn-2.20.so
       21  06-12-16 21:00   lib/libnss_compat.so.2
        0  06-12-16 21:00   usr/
        0  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/
       30  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so
       20  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libdl.so
       25  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libnss_nis.so
       20  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/librt.so
       23  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libcrypt.so
       28  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libnss_hesiod.so
       29  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libnss_nisplus.so
       21  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libanl.so
      216  11-05-14 03:35   usr/lib/libpthread.so
       19  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libm.so
       22  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libcidn.so
     4772  11-05-14 03:34   usr/lib/gcrt1.o
     2882  11-05-14 03:34   usr/lib/Scrt1.o
      910  11-05-14 03:34   usr/lib/Mcrt1.o
       25  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libnss_dns.so
       24  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libnss_db.so
      238  11-05-14 03:34   usr/lib/libc.so
       24  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libresolv.so
       27  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libthread_db.so
       22  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libutil.so
     2804  11-05-14 03:34   usr/lib/crt1.o
       27  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libnss_files.so
       28  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libnss_compat.so
     1560  11-05-14 03:34   usr/lib/crtn.o
       21  06-12-16 21:00   usr/lib/libnsl.so
     2060  11-05-14 03:34   usr/lib/crti.o
 --------                   -------
 15134321                   76 files


So an additional 15MB to get the latest Palemoon to run.

Your system might have other dependencies (e.g. a later dbus) but most of those can be grabbed from other distros as required.

Not too tricky...
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Jun 2016, 15:05    Post subject: Re: running in Wary  

ac2011 wrote:
I have Palemoon 26.2.2 running on an ancient Wary-based Puppy (Fluppy) via a GlibC 2.20 tweak.
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I was able to replicate your exploit with some personalizations in wary 5.5. Thanks for posting.
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Jun 2016, 18:22    Post subject: Re: running in Wary  

watchdog wrote:

I was able to replicate your exploit with some personalizations in wary 5.5. Thanks for posting.


Great, I'm glad someone found it useful.

I'm pondering doing a full GlibC 2.20 upgrade on Fluppy to counteract the older GlibC vulnerabilities, though I'd prefer not to break the locales (I know there's a workaround, but that's all it is - a workaround). It would be nice if someone clever could recompile 2.10.1 with the security patch, since everything else I'm using works fine with that version.
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Jun 2016, 20:31    Post subject: Re: running in Wary  

ac2011 wrote:
watchdog wrote:

I was able to replicate your exploit with some personalizations in wary 5.5. Thanks for posting.


Great, I'm glad someone found it useful.

I'm pondering doing a full GlibC 2.20 upgrade on Fluppy to counteract the older GlibC vulnerabilities, though I'd prefer not to break the locales (I know there's a workaround, but that's all it is - a workaround). It would be nice if someone clever could recompile 2.10.1 with the security patch, since everything else I'm using works fine with that version.


I am not skilled enough to compile a patched glibc but I have packaged palemoon-26.2.2-w5-glibc220tweak.pet which mostly works (report any problem). It is intended to run in wary based puppies, do not install in other puppies:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4UZBeFkNURJVUtSVXZhbEk/view?usp=sharing
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Jun 2016, 06:48    Post subject: Re: running in Wary  

watchdog wrote:
I am not skilled enough to compile a patched glibc but I have packaged palemoon-26.2.2-w5-glibc220tweak.pet which mostly works (report any problem). It is intended to run in wary based puppies, do not install in other puppies:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4UZBeFkNURJVUtSVXZhbEk/view?usp=sharing


Nice one. I haven't tested it as my version's working fine, but it's good to see other people keeping Wary alive.

Every other program I use (hundreds of them) works fine on Wary, so it seems dumb to upgrade the entire distro just to have a modern browser.
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jun 2016, 00:34    Post subject:  

palemoon-26.3.0 is out. I have packaged it for racy 5.5 with the glibc 2.20 tweak and it is working well.
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jun 2016, 01:57    Post subject:  

watchdog wrote:
palemoon-26.3.0 is out. I have packaged it for racy 5.5 with the glibc 2.20 tweak and it is working well.


thank you. this is a very important package for any distro. it would be nice to know if it works in tahr (i could try it... it might take a while) but it is nice to know that racy users have it. (no sarcasm, its just a good browser.)

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Jun 2016, 07:13    Post subject:  

I am not an archaelogist: I simply think that there are out there many guys still using such an old puppy as puppy 4.31. I remembered the following old post by dejan555:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=807177#807177

and crafted a palemoon 26.3.0 with a glibc 2.19 tweak which works in my puppy 4.31 and which I want to share. Is this the right place? In the meanwhile I am uploading the package I post my user-installed-packages:

Code:
hpijs-2.8.2_static-1|hpijs|2.8.2_static-1||Setup|4104K|pet_packages-4|hpijs-2.8.2_static-1.pet|+cups|drivers for hewlett packard printers|
hpliplite-3.9.8-mu-p4|hpliplite|3.9.8-mu-p4||Setup|8720K|pet_packages-4|hpliplite-3.9.8-mu-p4.pet|+libnetsnmp,+gutenprint,+cups,+ghostscript,+foomatic-filters|Hewlett Packard printer and scanner drivers|puppy|4|official|
libdbus-1-3_1.2.1|libdbus-1-3|1.2.1|5+lenny1||||libdbus-1-3_1.2.1-5+lenny1_i386.deb|||
libdbus-glib|libdbus-glib-1-2|libdbus-glib|1||||libdbus-glib-1-2_0.76-1_i386.deb|||
libnetsnmp-15-mu-p4|libnetsnmp|15-mu-p4||BuildingBlock|532K|pet_packages-4|libnetsnmp-15-mu-p4.pet||needed by hpliplite, hp printing|puppy|4|official|
v4l2ucp_1.2-0.1_i386|v4l2ucp_1.2|0.1_i386|||||v4l2ucp_1.2-0.1_i386.pet|||
qt-3.3.8|qt|3.3.8||BuildingBlock|7596K|pet_packages-3|qt-3.3.8.pet||a multi-platform C++ graphical user interface toolkit|
mplayer-1.0rc2-071007-1|mplayer|1.0rc2-071007-1||Multimedia|5988K|pet_packages-4|mplayer-1.0rc2-071007-1.pet|+ncurses,+gtk+,+alsa-lib,+lame,+libmad|audio/video player|
mplayer-fonts-1.0.3|mplayer-fonts|1.0.3||Multimedia|6708K|pet_packages-4|mplayer-fonts-1.0.3.pet|+mplayer|Additional fonts for MPlayer|
mplayer_codecs_full-20071007|mplayer_codecs_full|20071007||Multimedia|23084K|pet_packages-4|mplayer_codecs_full-20071007.pet||full set codecs|
mplayerplug-in-3.45|mplayerplug-in|3.45||Multimedia|1352K|pet_packages-4|mplayerplug-in-3.45.pet|+gtk+|browser plugin that uses mplayer|
apulse-git-2-p4|apulse-git|2-p4||BuildingBlock|144K|pet_packages-4|apulse-git-2-p4.pet||apulse|puppy|4|official|
bash-3.0.22-i486|bash|3.0.22-i486||BuildingBlock|1604K||bash-3.0.22-i486.pet||bash 3.0.22|puppy|wary5||
debbi-1.1|debbi|1.1||BuildingBlock|20K||debbi-1.1.pet||Brother printer installer||||
google-talkplugin_current_i386|google-talkplugin|current|current||||google-talkplugin_current_i386.deb|||
gtk+-2.18.3-p4|gtk+|2.18.3-p4||BuildingBlock|6556K|pet_packages-4|gtk+-2.18.3-p4.pet|+pcre,+atk,+glib,+pixman,+pango,+cairo|gui widget library|puppy|4|official|
gtk+_DEV-2.18.3-p4|gtk+_DEV|2.18.3-p4||BuildingBlock|2344K|pet_packages-4|gtk+_DEV-2.18.3-p4.pet|+gtk+|gui widget library|puppy|4|official|
gtkdialog4-0.8.3-i486|gtkdialog4|0.8.3-i486||BuildingBlock|276K||gtkdialog4-0.8.3-i486.pet|+gtk+|gui for shell scripts|puppy|wary5||
jwm-657-p431|jwm|657-p431|||||jwm-657-p431.pet|||
motion-3.2.12-i486|motion|3.2.12-i486||BuildingBlock|972K|pet_packages-4|motion-3.2.12-i486.pet||motion|puppy|4|official|
mtoolspassaggio|mtoolspassaggio|||BuildingBlock|1076K||mtoolspassaggio.pet||no description provided|ubuntu|lucid||
openssl-0.9.8zc-i486|openssl|0.9.8zc-i486||BuildingBlock|2376K|pet_packages-4|openssl-0.9.8zc-i486.pet||openssl|puppy|4|official|
p7zip-full|p7zip|full||BuildingBlock|3412K||p7zip-full.pet||no description provided|ubuntu|lucid||
retrovol-0.13.1|retrovol|0.13.1|||||retrovol-0.13.1.pet|||
sfs_load-1.9.6|sfs_load|1.9.6||Setup|196K||sfs_load-1.9.6.pet||Load Squash files||||
usb-modeswitch-2.1.1-i686|usb-modeswitch|2.1.1-i686||BuildingBlock|196K||usb-modeswitch-2.1.1-i686.pet||usb-modeswitch|slackware|14.0||
usb-modeswitch-data-20140327-i686|usb-modeswitch-data|20140327-i686||BuildingBlock|1384K||usb-modeswitch-data-20140327-i686.pet||usb-modeswitch-data||||
wget-1.16-i486|wget|1.16-i486||BuildingBlock|2256K|pet_packages-4|wget-1.16-i486.pet||wget|puppy|4|official|
v4l-utils-1.0.1-i486|v4l-utils|1.0.1-i486||BuildingBlock|3020K||v4l-utils-1.0.1-i486.pet||Video4Linux utils|puppy|wary5||
inkgui-0.2|inkgui|0.2||System|112K||inkgui-0.2.pet||Ink cartridge level check|t2|8.0rc||
psip-0.26|psip|0.26||Internet|1416K||psip-0.26.pet||Psip Puppy Phone|ubuntu|lucid||
palemoon-26.3.0-p4-glibc219tweak|palemoon|26.3.0-p4-glibc219tweak||BuildingBlock|97440K|pet_packages-4|palemoon-26.3.0-p4-glibc219tweak.pet||Palemoon web browser|puppy|4|official|


Enjoy only very interested palemoon-26.3.0-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4UZBeFkdmVNSG9DSXRrM1k/view?usp=sharing

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul 2016, 22:13    Post subject:  

Found an updated version here pet has same name for p4 but Palemoon is now 2.6.3.3
https://sourceforge.net/projects/old412forever/files/Internet/palemoon-26.3.0-p4-glibc219tweak.pet/download
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Aug 2016, 01:08    Post subject: Yim : Palemoon refused by Yim, yahoo messenger.  

Yim : Palemoon refused by Yim, yahoo messenger.
It's just feed back. I tested it this morning, because i was curious to see what is behind yim, in the forum topics
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2016, 23:35    Post subject:
Subject description: 64bit tweak available ?
 

Does anyone know if there is a pet for 64bit tweak ? The items mentioned above seems to be 32bit tweak. One of my machines still running Fatdog version 631.
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Aug 2016, 03:23    Post subject:
Subject description: 64bit tweak available ?
 

quirkian2new wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a pet for 64bit tweak ? The items mentioned above seems to be 32bit tweak. One of my machines still running Fatdog version 631.


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