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128 GB USB stick

#1 Post by oui »

today in my post box: the weekly paper from the next self-service store,,,

it offers reduces the price from SanDisk USB Stick Cruzer Blade 128 GB :!: from 71,00 Euro down to 27,95 next week!

I find it is absurd and terrible for environment and the supply of raw materials of the next generation...

why?

because if I have a 128 GB USB stick, I will probably not keep all the other one... Billions of USB sticks are suddenly worthless and can be discarded, and, as there is no deposit on such products to secure that they are collected carefully to not lose the raw materials the USB stick (how will go extra to a collecting place for a few gramm material, no one!) have a

TERRIBLE EFFECT

on the environment and assessment of our world wide raw material stocks.

distros making from the use of USB sticks a main focus like the new Puppy's accelerate that bad movement terribly...

pls back to the hard disk, quickly!!!

next problem, but only for users: can each hardware, can each OS manage correctly those big USB sticks?
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#2 Post by perdido »

Even for this problem there is a puppy related solution.

We can make toys and not overfill the landfill!

http://www.digitalgeek.de/reitender-usb-hund.htm

(also gives new meaning to mounting a drive)
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#3 Post by bark_bark_bark »

How is the price reduction bad for the environment?
It isn't.

How is a bigger flash drive bad for the environment?
It isn't.

How would a bigger flash drive automatically render the other smaller drives useless?
It won't.

The real thing to complain about is the fact that nobody recycles.
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#4 Post by Galbi »

I think he means that low prices lead to consumption of things that really are not needed but that are bought simply because the price is not prohibitive.

Personally I've been fighting against the desire to replace the machine I'm writing this (a P4 from 2005), I'm afraid I'm losing. :)
bark_bark_bark wrote:The real thing to complain about is the fact that nobody recycles.
Pure fact.
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#5 Post by bark_bark_bark »

Galbi wrote:I think he means that low prices lead to consumption of things that really are not needed but that are bought simply because the price is not prohibitive.
I do see a need for a 128GB flash drive. You can run puppy off of it and store a lot of data on it.
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#6 Post by 8Geee »

The problem is as these 128Gb sticks get to market, the 8 and 16Gb sticks vanish. I find the waste to be that 120Gb I do not need. But then consider my place here, with a small puppy with an office that fits in a 512Mb partition (includes 128Mb save). /MHO
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#7 Post by kb8amz »

Then there are all those $60 USD 1 GB USB sticks. One could purchase a multi port USB hub populated with their 1 GB sticks. Like analogy I used for 8 bit RAM by using memory stackers populated with 4 - 4k RAM cards so my PC RAM was increased to 16k RAM. If the equipment still functions properly, don't throw it away. Think of ingenious ways to utilize it.

BTW, I still have PC with a 5.25 floppy drive and a 3.5 disk drive.
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#8 Post by bark_bark_bark »

I recently used an old 4gb flash drive to install Linux Mint on to a 64gb flash drive.
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#9 Post by Sylvander »

G = Giga
g = gram
B = Byte
b = bit
K = Kelvin
k = kilo
M = Mega
m = metre or milli

Hence:
GB = GigaByte
kB = KiloByte

Yes?
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#10 Post by bark_bark_bark »

Sylvander wrote:G = Giga
g = gram
B = Byte
b = bit
K = Kelvin
k = kilo
M = Mega
m = metre or milli

Hence:
GB = GigaByte
kB = KiloByte

Yes?
I think kilobyte is actually KB
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#11 Post by bigpup »

So, you think large capacity USB flash drives are an environmental hazard.

Check this out:
Punched cards in storage at a U.S. Federal records center in 1959. All the data visible here could fit on a 4 GB flash drive (with minimal ZIP compression).
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#12 Post by slavvo67 »

Ummm, well they are still better than CD's..right? How many of those have we burned that will never decompose.
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#13 Post by Sylvander »

bark_bark_bark wrote:I think kilobyte is actually KB
No.

See International System of Units->Prefixes where kilo = k.
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#14 Post by Deacon »

Hi. Poor person waiting for the latest $2 flash drive. The material can always be recycled and there will always be a use for whatever size it is.

There are just that many people. Relax.
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#15 Post by Deacon »

Sylvander wrote:
bark_bark_bark wrote:I think kilobyte is actually KB
No.

See International System of Units->Prefixes where kilo = k.
Yes. Bytes were standard until videogame systems in the 90's
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#16 Post by Deacon »

kb8amz wrote:Then there are all those $60 USD 1 GB USB sticks. One could purchase a multi port USB hub populated with their 1 GB sticks. Like analogy I used for 8 bit RAM by using memory stackers populated with 4 - 4k RAM cards so my PC RAM was increased to 16k RAM. If the equipment still functions properly, don't throw it away. Think of ingenious ways to utilize it.

BTW, I still have PC with a 5.25 floppy drive and a 3.5 disk drive.
and no nothing will stop that Commodore 128D from running
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#17 Post by bark_bark_bark »

Sylvander wrote:
bark_bark_bark wrote:I think kilobyte is actually KB
No.

See International System of Units->Prefixes where kilo = k.
Everytime I see the initial for kilobyte, I've always seen it as KB.
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#18 Post by Sylvander »

bark_bark_bark wrote:Everytime I see the initial for kilobyte, I've always seen it as KB.
Hmm, perhaps whoever is doing that isn't using the "SI System" [International System of Units].

I began learning it way back in 1968.
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#19 Post by starhawk »

It's normal to get the capitalization on those abbreviations very, very wrong.

I myself am guilty of it. GB not gb, kB not KB, etc.

It works out as one of those "well, you know what I meant" sorts of things. Even if you get it wrong, everyone knows what you wanted to tell them.

Oh -- and just to confuse everyone, powers of two (rather than powers of ten) are done in "ibi" notation now. So -- it's not gigabytes (GB), it's gibibytes (GiB) -- all because the storage companies (primarily HDD manufacturers, but I think I've seen it starting to catch hold in RAM stuff now) refuse to use kilobyte to mean 1024 bytes. They can redefine the term under the law (!) to mean 1000 bytes instead. "Oh, we don't want to believe in counting the way computers do, so we define kilobyte to mean 1000 bytes."

So not only are they negating (at the least) several decades of custom / shorthand, they're also shorting you somewhere around 75 megabytes (it's a little less than that, almost-but-not-quite 74MB) per "gigabyte" in the process of changing mathematics as we (computer geeks and nerds) know it! It also requires lots of explaining when the technically uninclined say, "Hey, even when this drive isn't formatted, it's still got a lower capacity than what's on the box -- what's up with that?"
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#20 Post by Sylvander »

starhawk wrote:It works out as one of those "well, you know what I meant" sorts of things. Even if you get it wrong, everyone knows what you wanted to tell them.
I understand what you're saying...BUT...

When I was being educated in Engineering:
a. They would say UNITS!...
To any student who failed to specify the units involved when giving the result of a calculation.
AND...

b. When using the SI system...
It was ESSENTIAL to specify correctly the correct upper/lower case and letter for a prefix or unit.
If you didn't do it right, you suffered consequences.
So at the end of the education process, it became automatic to do it right.
Didn't the US space program fail in one of its missions because one lot were using SI to calculate stuff, and another lot were using US units?
What a basic error, and what a disastrous outcome.
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