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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Feb 2016, 18:12    Post subject: Re: redirect  

L18L wrote:
mavrothal wrote:
Good catch.
The first should be easy to fix as downloads are now at the top of the puppylinux.com page. The rest though may need some more work.

Where are the people that want to help with the web page? Here is an opportunity.


Yes, good catch.
How to Redirect a Web Page.

But nothing is easy with Github Pages.
Redirecting should be easy for Githubers only:
https://help.github.com/articles/redirects-on-github-pages/


There is no reason to use gh-pages, but we do need to use some git repo to work on the page content. So if you (or anyone else) want to write it from scratch outside gh-pages, please do.

Quote:
Did Barry give just the domain name
or content also?

Does redirect make sense?

I do not know about giving , but as long as the page is up (it is) you do not need permission to link/redirect to it, I would think (Google does it all the time Very Happy )

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Feb 2016, 08:20    Post subject: Re: redirect
Subject description: from scratch outside gh-pages
 

mavrothal wrote:
There is no reason to use gh-pages, but we do need to use some git repo to work on the page content. So if you (or anyone else) want to write it from scratch outside gh-pages, please do.

Hope that puppylinux.com/development/package-management.htm wrote:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; URL='http://barryk.org/puppylinux/development/package-management.htm'" />
</head>
<body></body>
</html>
which is a redirect.
And because 1st duty is avoiding 404 error pages:
In order to redirect puppylinux.com/download/index.html wrote:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; URL='http://barryk.org/puppylinux/download/'" />
</head>
<body></body>
</html>

There is some more work (find the other 404 pages and redirect them as done above).

This is more important than talking about design and graphics at the moment I think.
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editSam Feb 20 13:57:52 CET 2016
@BarryK
Please change all www.puppylinux.com to barryk.org/puppylinux on
http://barryk.org/puppylinux/download/index.html
Thank you.

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Feb 2016, 11:36    Post subject: Re: redirect
Subject description: from scratch outside gh-pages
 

L18L wrote:
mavrothal wrote:
There is no reason to use gh-pages, but we do need to use some git repo to work on the page content. So if you (or anyone else) want to write it from scratch outside gh-pages, please do.

Hope that puppylinux.com/development/package-management.htm wrote:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; URL='http://barryk.org/puppylinux/development/package-management.htm'" />
</head>
<body></body>
</html>
which is a redirect.

But this only affects new puppies and puts the relevant page out of reach.
What is needed till another package-management page is developed is to redirect http://puppylinux.com/development/package-management.htm to http://barryk.org/puppylinux/development/package-management.htm

L18L wrote:
And because 1st duty is avoiding 404 error pages:
In order to redirect puppylinux.com/download/index.html wrote:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; URL='http://barryk.org/puppylinux/download/'" />
</head>
<body></body>
</html>

There is some more work (find the other 404 pages and redirect them as done above).

This is also problematic as the said page is outdated.
What is needed (till a proper download page is developed) is to to have http://puppylinux.com/download/index.html pointing to the top of the http://puppylinux.com site where the current downloads are.

In short we need someone to take the lead on the puppylinux.com site.
Till then we can keep discussing what other people should do Razz

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Feb 2016, 14:40    Post subject: Re: redirect
Subject description: from scratch outside gh-pages
 

mavrothal wrote:
What is needed till another package-management page is developed is to redirect http://puppylinux.com/development/package-management.htm to http://barryk.org/puppylinux/development/package-management.htm

Two of the needed redirects have been published by me here.

This has nothing to do with a redesign of puppylinux
but fixing 404 not founds is simplest state of the art in web design.
Feel free to upload them (I don't) to puppylinux.com which is on github.
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Feb 2016, 12:00    Post subject: New page for puppylinux.com
Subject description: design
 

...done

See screeny
or
http://extra-inter.net/puppy/puppylinux/

Actual content is just fake.
Needed: Concept, structure text images movies......
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Feb 2016, 15:21    Post subject: Re: New page for puppylinux.com
Subject description: design
 

L18L wrote:
...done

See screeny
or
http://extra-inter.net/puppy/puppylinux/

Very nice but unless you propose to write a totally new puppylinux.com page (which is fine with me) I still do not see which problem of the ones discussed, you example page addresses.

For example, in analogy of http://puppylinux.com/download/index.html that currently results in a "404 Not found", we would like in your example page
http://extra-inter.net/puppy/puppylinux/downloads/index.html to point to http://extra-inter.net/puppy/puppylinux/#downloads
and
http://extra-inter.net/puppy/puppylinux/development/package-management.htm to redirect to http://barryk.org/puppylinux/development/package-management.htm
However, both of the above result in a "404 Not Found".
Do I miss something or we are talking apples and oranges? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Feb 2016, 16:58    Post subject:  

moeppyfan wrote:
Hi,

When I open my browser, the default jump-off page (file:///usr/share/doc/home.htm), the bottom link:

Quote:
Download Puppy. Or, if on dialup consider buying a CD.

Is: http://puppylinux.com/download/index.html

And on "Install" on Desktop, in the "Install applications" Tab, the button "Package Manager introduction webpage" is:

http://puppylinux.com/development/package-management.htm

Both these links now seem to be dead.


Fixed these (try the links above) and some more links from puppy's help pages .
Is kind of ugly but is just an emergency solution.
Please let us know if you find more broken links

The need for a proper www.puppylinux.com page remains...

<steam_off>
It is really disappointing as far as "community" is concerned...
</steam_off>

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Feb 2016, 04:48    Post subject: Re: New page for puppylinux.com
Subject description: design
 

mavrothal wrote:
L18L wrote:
...done

See screeny
or
http://extra-inter.net/puppy/puppylinux/

Very nice but unless you propose to write a totally new puppylinux.com page (which is fine with me) I still do not see which problem of the ones discussed, you example page addresses.

None of the problems is addressed, it is all just about
Subject description design.

mavrothal wrote:
For example, in analogy of http://puppylinux.com/download/index.html that currently results in a "404 Not found", we would like in your example page
http://extra-inter.net/puppy/puppylinux/downloads/index.html to point to http://extra-inter.net/puppy/puppylinux/#downloads
and
http://extra-inter.net/puppy/puppylinux/development/package-management.htm to redirect to http://barryk.org/puppylinux/development/package-management.htm
However, both of the above result in a "404 Not Found".

Sorry, I cannot reproduce your issue with http://extra-inter.net/puppy/puppylinux/#downloads
and
http://extra-inter.net/puppy/puppylinux/development/package-management.htm
does not exist.

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Feb 2016, 05:17    Post subject: Re: New page for puppylinux.com
Subject description: design
 

L18L wrote:
it is all just about
Subject description design.

I never read the subject line Embarassed Very Happy

BTW the gh-pages is like any other webpage. Has index.html and then folders/subfolders with text, images etc.
You do not really need Jekyll to edit/patch/issue-pull-request to the gh-pages woof-CE repo. Wink

Ruby/RubyGems (usually in PPM/Gslapt as ruby/rubygem/ruby-dev), Bundler (gem install bundler), Jekyll (gem install jekyll -v 2.4.0 - jekyll 3x requires newer ruby) Node.js (just download and extract at the root of the fs) etc, are only needed if you want to have jekyll running so you can check realtime your changes in http://localhost:4000/, by running first the "bundle install" and then the "bundle exec jekyll serve" command while in your gh-pages folder.
Note: "bundle install" may spit some errors the first time. just follow its suggestions editing the Gemfile as indicated

If you do want to take full advantage of what the gh-pages/jekyll offers here is a nice guide.

PS: If you just want to clone just the gh-pages branch of woof-CE (is less than 350K) to check it out/change it without getting the bulk of woof-CE type in terminal
Code:
git clone -b gh-pages --single-branch https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE.git

Then open index.html with your browser and there is the "puppylinux.com" site Rolling Eyes Very Happy
Change as you see fit.
If you get your own woof-CE fork in github your changes will be immediately visible by anyone from your github repo (http://<user_name>.gitgub.io/woof-CE/)

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Mar 2016, 04:57    Post subject:  

Brand new page is live at http://puppylinux.com



See main post.

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Mar 2016, 05:50    Post subject: New page for puppylinux.com
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01micko wrote:
Brand new page is live at http://puppylinux.com

Congrats!
Very nice.
I like it.

One question
Source is looking like kind of mdview.
Is gettext possible?
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Mar 2016, 06:48    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
Brand new page is live at http://puppylinux.com

See main post.

Since I'm not sure how many will do that and also that the main post still points to the old gihub repo, I'd like to point out that the content of new puppylinix.com site is hosted at
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/puppylinux-woof-CE.github.io

The README file there says:
Quote:
We have decided to use the markdown language for the text portion of the files in order to make it simple for anyone to contribute content.

Contributions on web design are also welcome, as long as they do not complicate content contribution, and as long as the contributor agrees to license their changes as CC0 (Public Domain).

So please contribute!
Please notice that any contribution will be always acknowledged as each page in new site list at the bottom (image) the persons that contributed to the creation of the specific page!
So what are you waiting for?
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Mar 2016, 07:53    Post subject:  

The site is completely broken with JS disabled. Why do you insist on making JS do HTML's job of rendering the page?
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Mar 2016, 08:19    Post subject:  

I run the No-Script add-on as many others do as well. That means that we do not automatically have Javascript enabled when we visit an unknown webpage.

What would be advisable, is to have some kind of re-direct for folks who have javascript disabled, like here:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9895012/no-javascript-detection-script-redirect

Then at least you could direct them to a page which tells them to activate their Javascript.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Mar 2016, 08:24    Post subject:  

bark_bark_bark wrote:
The site is completely broken with JS disabled. Why do you insist on making JS do HTML's job of rendering the page?

Because we do not know how to make a page that will allow for easy content contribution, acknowledge contributors etc, while is looking good (or just ok) from a phone screen to a computer screen (this a puppy page for general audience), in pure html. If you know how to do it please provide patches.

@solo
Thanks for the redirection pointer.
But again, please provide some patches. This is a community edition. Commune!

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