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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jan 2016, 03:30    Post subject:  

Doesn't AOL mean Adults on Line?
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jan 2016, 04:02    Post subject:  

It stands for America On Line Wink
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unicorn316386

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jan 2016, 13:49    Post subject:  

slavvo67 wrote:
No desktop background and no drive icons.

It didn't show up for me once either, and I found out it had something to do with this:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/blob/testing/woof-code/3builddistro-Z#L1460

Around the middle of ./3builddistro-Z, a window should pop up and ask you what you want to use for your wallpaper, Gtk, jwm, and desktop icon theme (all in the same window). My guess is that this menu did not show up for you, did it? It seems that sometimes it thinks "ptheme" exists, so it skips asking what you want to use as default... and you are left with nothing. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jan 2016, 14:52    Post subject:  

666philb wrote:


both the tahrpup 32bit & 64bit should build cleanly ... producing an iso the same as the ones released .................should being the operative word Very Happy ...testing now


yep ...builds cleanly for me

are you using the latest woof CE ?

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jan 2016, 15:19    Post subject:  

Hi Unicorn. I did get that last pop-up. Not sure what to change it to so I leave it alone.

Hi Phil: Define latest. I downloaded maybe 30 days ago or less.

Oh, I'm trying to recreate the 32bit Non-PAE.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jan 2016, 08:24    Post subject:  

I built my 2 experimental Wheezy Pooches from the "woof-testing-master.zip" file,
downloaded Jan. 15 2016.

I took for granted that it contained all updates to 15 Jan 2016, but the "p" apps
offered in /usr/local are not the most recent, it doesn't contain the most recent
bash or urxvt, or abiword, etc.

Updating those apps is not as simple as downloading them in a certain directory.
To bring those apps up to date, you must fill out some Martian database / paperwork.

Or you say "to hell with the database", you don't wait for the bureaucracy, and
you start re-mastering the resulting puppy.sfs the intelligent way.

Just keep good notes along the way.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jan 2016, 18:33    Post subject:  

Well, I'll worry about packages being the most recent after I can get one to boot with menus and desktop icons. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jan 2016, 17:38    Post subject:  

unicorn316386 wrote:
When making a testing build of Slacko 14.1, I noticed there were a few missing icons in the menu (Pmirror, PZCHMView, pupX, PeasyPort, gdmap) and inside programs (loginmanager, pupradio). Found out they were deleted here:

After (2 icons): testing/woof-code/rootfs-skeleton/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons
Original (340 icons): master/woof-code/rootfs-skeleton/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons

Discussion of change: Retire /usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons #560 (December 11th, 2015)

Just a heads up for anyone who tries to build with the current testing branch and also notices a few missing icons.

Quote:
loginmanager = mini-question.xpm
Peasyport = apm-online.xpm (this was v1.8, v2.0 has it's own icon)
PZCHMView = mini-book1.xpm
Pmirror = mini-folder.xpm
pupX set properties of X = mini-panel.xpm, mini-Desktop-settings.xpm (symlink)

gdmap = mini-graph.xpm, gdmap.xpm (symlink)
pupradio = Animation.xpm, mini-audiovol.xpm, mini-display.xpm

Noticed two more today:

SFS-load on the fly (v2.3.7) = mini-clock.xpm (while probing)
Nathan's Wallpaper Setter (v0.6.6) = mini-eye.xpm (View button)
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jlst

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Feb 2016, 15:12    Post subject:  

This code should print the correct number of soundcards detected by your system (not counting the pc-speaker, the beep machine)

open a terminal, copy and paste this line
Code:
grep -v 'pcsp' /proc/asound/cards | grep '\[.*\]' | wc -l


open the file with geany to verify
Code:
geany /proc/asound/cards


This code gives me accurate info in puppy431 and slacko 6.3/tahrpup

However can somebody test in a puppy with kernel 4
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Feb 2016, 02:10    Post subject:  

Quote:
However can somebody test in a puppy with kernel 4
Sound via motherboard
    PC1
    Code:
    bash-4.2# uname -a
    Linux JLH64onX2 4.1.11-JL-64 #1 SMP Sun Nov 15 00:56:52 PST 2015 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
    <root> ~
    bash-4.2# grep -v 'pcsp' /proc/asound/cards | grep '\[.*\]' | wc -l
    2
    <root> ~
    bash-4.2# cat /proc/asound/cards
     0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
                          HDA NVidia at 0xfe028000 irq 23
     1 [Webcam         ]: USB-Audio - FULL HD 1080P Webcam
                          Generic FULL HD 1080P Webcam at usb-0000:00:02.0-4.2.1, full speed
     2 [pcsp           ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp
    <root> ~
    PC2
    Code:
    bash-4.2# uname -a
    Linux JLH64onDell 4.1.11-JL-64 #1 SMP Sun Nov 15 00:56:52 PST 2015 x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
    <root> ~
    bash-4.2# cat  /proc/asound/cards
     0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
                          HDA Intel at 0xdff3c000 irq 26
     1 [Webcam         ]: USB-Audio - FULL HD 1080P Webcam
                          Generic FULL HD 1080P Webcam at usb-0000:00:1d.0-2.2.1, full speed
     2 [pcsp           ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp
                          Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61
    <root> ~
    bash-4.2# grep -v 'pcsp' /proc/asound/cards | grep '\[.*\]' | wc -l                     
    2
    <root> ~

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Feb 2016, 15:45    Post subject:  

If someone would TRY and figure out what the hell is going on with Puppy's networking subsystem on the WLAN side of things, I'd greatly appreciate it.

The bug has been described previously many times by me, with varying degrees of attention from People Who Can Code -- I have to say I'm profoundly disappointed that I'm still fighting this issue tooth and nail today. It's been at least a year or so since first report and there has been AFAICT no action whatsoever towards diagnosing or correcting the issue.

Frugal install of ANY modern Pup, grub4dos bootloader. (I'm using X-Tahr 1b3 but I've had it happen in X-Slacko and IIRC X-Precise, as well as a few non-XFCE Pups.) ANY of the three popular connection utilities -- SNS, Dougal's, Frisbee, doesn't matter. (I primarily use Frisbee, but again, it does not matter.) Machine make n model has no effect, although I'm mostly a laptop person so that may be it. I'd previously reported that the issue only affected PCI Express Mini Card wireless adapters, that is incorrect information -- it covers USB adapters as well. I think the problem may very well be entirely driver unrelated... something with wpa_supplicant maybe? I don't know.

I'll note that my connection, by hardware requirements, is exclusively WiFi and uses WPA authentication. I'm on WiFi "N" -- might be "draft N" rather than the full thing, but all that does AFAIK is cut the maximum speed in half, whoopeedoo.

If the WiFi signal is at all even slightly weak, Puppy will disconnect at random. Sometimes "ifconfig wlan0 up" fixes it at first, but most recently, I have had to delete and recreate the wireless profile each and every time it disconnects -- which can be anywhere from every five minutes to an hour. I've known it to connect and be gone again in under 30 seconds.

I cannot describe how immensely frustrating this problem really is.

Somebody... anybody... Beuller?

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jlst

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Feb 2016, 15:56    Post subject:  

starhawk, puppy lacks an autoreconnect daemon or something like that. That also happens in wired LAN. If you reset the router, puppy would not [always] reconnect itself, that is a major drawback.

However if you have a working profile on ethernet or wireless ethernet, then you can just run dhcpcd again. This

dhcpcd

however you might want kill any running dhcpcd process first:

killall -9 dhcpcd
dhcpcd

EDIT:

Well, I have this extra info I added manually to /etc/dhcpcd.conf

interface eth0
static ip_address=192.168.1.25/26
static routers=192.168.1.1
static domain_name_servers=208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220

interface wlan0
static ip_address=192.168.1.25/26
static routers=192.168.1.1
static domain_name_servers=208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220

---------

I said that because when I was testing a script, I would unload the wlan driver and then load again... run dhcpcd ... and it connected.. but I'm not sure why.

However we can find a solution, that's for sure.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Feb 2016, 16:03    Post subject:  

Geez. So it's just losing the signal and not automatically reconnecting...? That's actually kind of a major omission in my opinion.

Anyone want to get that fixed? I WILL GLADLY HELP TEST.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Feb 2016, 16:48    Post subject:  

Ok, I'm using wlan exclusively, wpa_supplicant is running:

3957 root 0:00 wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -D wext -c /etc/network-wizard

I could write a somewhat primitive script that runs as a service and tests lan interfaces and internet connection every 10-30 seconds, then attempts a connection...

I set up WLAN with net-setup.sh ... Dougals Network Wizard
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