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PostPosted: Fri 25 Dec 2015, 17:37    Post subject:  Slacko5.7-eee2017 and mini-eee
Subject description: Slacko 5.7 for the EEEpc 2017 UPDATE
 

The 2017 "c" edition of Puppy Slacko-5.7 built for the EEEpc series 7, 9, and 100x.

Many thanks to HoerMirAuf for the Puppy Package to migrate openssl 101 to 102. The initial instal was 102g, I have updated to 102j.
The topic can be found here.

All servers and shares remain intact: the trimming is the removal of other unneeded video-drivers (only i915 is here). Additional screenys in ~/my-applications/MyFiles

2/9/2017
openSSL, X11 series, libpng, expat, gcrypt, curl, and gnutls all updated with symlinks.
FF27 tweaked to fix concerns with pdfjs, and SVG files.
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Feb. 09, 2017
size: 156925952 bytes (149.656Mb) +2.24Mb
md5 : fce39e598deffb3571c728946747
sha1: 0983b080826ccb45e9b68f9ab8afc0f7ab4b2331

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As in previous editions Slacko-eee2017 can fit in a 640Mb partition with a 256Mb save-file. EXT3 filesystem and save-file is recommended.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Dec 2015, 19:07    Post subject:  

A few quick questions:
- Is there any reason why you're using Firefox 27.0.1 instead of 28? From what I understand, 28 has around 4000 bugfixes with no negatives, but I am wondering I'm missing something (here is a 28 in an sfs with some privacy settings already added)
- Is there any benefit to having Adblock Edge included over uBlock (what the Adblock Edge author recommends) or just using Pup-Advert Blocker (what I've been using lately, which apparently blocks things earlier before they hit the browser) instead?
- Have you considered using kernel 3.14.55? It seems to detect "ondemand" CPU scaling right away and "suspend" seems to work better when I re-open the lid on my laptop (it responds right away instead of after I hit the power button twice)
- As a side comment: A link to the "generic slacko5.7-2016" in the original post might be useful, though this 5.7-2016eee seems to be working on my Latitude D410 so far (but I did get some odd pauses in firefox, might be one of the extensions)
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PostPosted: Sat 26 Dec 2015, 07:23    Post subject:  

I stick with what works at a minimal footprint. FF28 or 27 was a close call, I decided to take on 27 to run through about:config settings. There are still security problems up to FF39 at a much larger footprint, with more disabling required.

UBlock has a binary blob that gets big very fast. ABE can be configured to remove the extra copies of the two main files... reducing the footprint to 8-9Mb as of this date. The binary blob in UBlock gets to 30Mb rather quickly.


No kernal swapping in Slacko5.7. At least not like in 6.3. And given the choice of kernals 3.18.22 LTS is a better choice, or 3.19.x. GLIBC gets updated... thats a big, and needed update. Barring that, I've gone far with what I have at hand.

If you look at the FF27.0.1 included, its all in ~/ so its like one click or two to fully uninstall (.mozilla). Theres no parsed browser here located in usr and root. Just simple, I don't like it, remove it. No need for sfs.

Being a Holiday last night I got both uploaded, but didn't get to the writeup of the main version, Thats immediately next this morning (DONE 1135UT). Besides, the real idea is the EEEpc version thats easy to use, The main distro literally is a convienient afterthought... theres plenty in Puppy to choose from. Updates to the original Slacko5.7 and tweaking the browser would get one to nearly the same place.

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Dec 2015, 08:03    Post subject:  

Thanks for the reply and these details 8Geee. I agree that minimal footprint is good (newer FF kills 1GB RAM fast Laughing ), and that changing kernels in 5.7 seems less viable (I wonder how rufwoof does it in wary 5.3?). FF27 still seems to be more compatible with pages than Pale Moon without useragent tricks (based on FF24esr). I forgot if 5.7 has Pup-Advert Blocker, I know it's in 6.3 though (have been using ABE/uBlock forever also and didn't even know about the editing etc/hosts way until recently).
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PostPosted: Sat 26 Dec 2015, 08:18    Post subject:  

Its all in the tweaking of about config! Keeping the SSL3 out, and some TLS1.0 out means a better experience page-to-page. Coupled with the Slackware 14.0 security patches means the 'puter and browser function hand-in-glove.

IMHO most regular folks don't quite get this functionality of OS AND BROWSER together, its a M$ thing... and is a good idea even if M$ borked it. /MHO

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jan 2016, 15:58    Post subject:  

Missed your ? about PupAdvert Blocker. At least the shell is there in the Disabled Menu column. MENU --> System --> Menu Manager. Having ABE, I decided to move PupAB to 'disabled' (not listed). BTW ABE is reading only 7.2Mb here.

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Feb 2016, 18:57    Post subject: Openssl 1.0.1r  

A reminder that there is now an openssl update to version 1.0.1r from the 'q' version installed. This is related to a security fix needed in 1.0.2f. As always, MENU --> Setup --> Uppdates from slacware will do the trick. Both the 'solibs' and the actual version is downloaded. When done perform a reboot or shutdown/restart.

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Feb 2016, 06:23    Post subject: downloaded, for casting on USB pendrive.  

downloaded, for casting on USB pendrive.
I download quite all Puppies. The spirit is that puppy builders should test the puplets of each other, like at school we had our copy controlled by our friends to get their opinions
Perhaps i will not keep yours in my collections, nevertheless you will have had an opinion, and perhaps some defaults corrected.
Only puplets can have some interest, slacko is really standard production.. inventive has gone !

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Feb 2016, 08:05    Post subject: Loaded goffice SFS version Wary  

Bookmarks password, wireless setting, all is recognized at reboot : no bug
Loaded goffice SFS version Wary ; gnumeric tested in bank accounts, not bug. I don't know anybody who does need a computer to check easily its bank account, Removing that kind of stuff from puppy will get some newbies leaving at once. Libre office will kill the puppy power on eeepc . Running RAM is Puppy's advantage, most users still have their old XP laptop, bought around 2005, for linuxing while children play the tablet.

Ah FF27 was available here, at the LH top corner of the desktop, Smile well ! I can unload my Seamonkey. Firefox does not appears in menu internet, that is why i loaded seamonkey... something to change..
RAM usage climbs to 320MB when firefox opens. That will be OK on my old Acer Aspire 1640. (only one processor)

Youtube informs that FF27 soon will no longer be accepted
HTML 5 ? instead of Flashplayer i suppose.

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Feb 2016, 18:57    Post subject:  

Pelo:
Hmmmm check your timezone setting and day/date/time. Very odd error.

There is much that can be trimmed from this puppy IF you investigate the modem and the video driver. IF the kernel has the modem, then all the modules can be removed. When discovering the video, the others can be removed. A large removal!

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Feb 2016, 21:48    Post subject: Abiword version without errors for Slacko 5.7-2016eee.  

Ah, that was done by the user Pelo before you tell him ! he is making great progress in linuxing Smile nevertheless he failed finding Abiword version without errors for Slacko 5.7-2016eee. Those from PPM are huge, with Qt, evince, stop ! Evil or Very Mad
I would understand Abiword reject is due to Slacko, but other puplets based on Slacko 5.7 includes it. Slacko is loosing spare parts getting in teenaging (2010) like an old car? The newer the kernel is, the less applications you can use.
Micko should take some time to look at applications, to get them fit the kernel, Slacko is getting away from reality, from users, from the world,
He cannot install brand new engines without changing hoses and seals to link them to applications. Puppy is a tiny OS, i like it. It's different from Slackware. Puppy as Slacko 5.3.3thin was trimming the fat.
Songbird You need Music when you practice Linux ?
I got IT ! here by the generous donor TheAsterix "I've installed and tested it on Slacko-531. It complains about a few gstreamer libraries and such on startup, but everything seems to work well nonetheless. " he says.

Very Happy Hmmmm check your timezone setting and day/date/time. Very odd error.
ok i change it to Paris France.

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Feb 2016, 23:27    Post subject:  

Yes, there is problem(s) with abiword, and the spreadsheet. I thought I left them both in...
but when I trim puppy for me, I discard them. The eee version when it is trimmed without sharing and without server-programs, and without the modules and spelling help, and without the scanner (but the printer is ok) is 125.9Mb iso (compared to 143.4Mb for eee). It is "tineee" Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Feb 2016, 02:48    Post subject: it's a good one, I/O OSMO, try Sunbird (lightning nowadays)
Subject description: sunbird-1.0b.sfs: 9684 K or Songbird 2.3.0a nightly builds (unstable)
 

it's a good one, trimed for what it has to do. and computers where it's supposed to run." Puppy as Slacko 5.3.3thin was trimming the fat" Slack 5.7-2016eee too, perhaps a little bit too much. Smile
Osmo is a list of contacts, a ToDoList, and a calender. As Slacko 5.7 - 2016eee has deleted this application, take advantage to renew your Slacko menu, never changed through ages, try Sunbird, much more pretty, and which will give you pleasure to fullfill it. Osmo is a very good agenda, but so sad... for a brand new laptop Smile with at least 4GB of RAM.
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sunbird-1.0b.sfs: 9684 K. It's not a bird born to-day, but try it. Exclamation it does its job.
I will feed back isf a newer version is available for Slacko

Sure you could install thunderbird too, with ligthning included. Bigger, that is much bigger. Or re-install OSMO Confused

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Feb 2016, 06:32    Post subject:  

I have a couple of comments/suggestions, but they are not strictly about the new version, as they were present before:
1. The page for the initial settings is too big for a 700/701 screen, and it is impossible to click the "OK". However, not a big problem as these settings can be found elsewhere.
2. mhwaveedit is indeed included, but it has to be activated by console. It would make sense to have a menu item for it too.
3. I couldn't find a way to change the wallpaper. I don't know how much memory was saved by removing the wallpaper changer, but I would imagine not a lot. Other wallpapers are included as well, they could have been trashed if this was an issue.
4. There are is no battery power scaling tool. This is easily remedied by installing Pemasu's ACPI .pet, so not a problem. I believe this was included in the original Puppeee. It would make more sense to include this.
5. It would have been nice if there was a program to record video like guvcview, as there is a camera there.
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Feb 2016, 11:46    Post subject:  

The wall paper is found in the usual puppy places AND is also found in /root/my-applications/MyFiles. Nathan's wallpaper was removed as one can right-click any drive icon and select backgrounds... drag n drop.

Recording video thru camera. The surf models and the 900a don't have one. So I'd like to recommend everyone use what they prefer.

This might be a moot point by now, but the chip in tthese replacement batteries are quite dumb. If you run on batteries tull near exhaustion, then partially charge before using again... guess what... you lost the remaining capacity! The original ASUS eee batteries don't have this problem. From what I see in this version, hover over battery symbol shows % remain based on granularity.

Yeah, the original scriipt-writers didn't forsee use in a 600x1024 environment, let alone 480x800. Even xorgwizard has to be invoked on the 700 series. Sad

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