Puppy 4.2 - Trim the bloat

[ttuuxxx]

I took the taskbar image from my Citrus theme and made it square then stretched it Just squint your eyes first , LOL
ttuuxxx

[mcewanw]

xinha looks better - maybe smaller and better than composer too . . .
look forward to hearing how you get on :D
http://xinha.raimundmeyer.de/x_examples ... ample.html

Yes I've used xinha many times in the past couple of years and for the size of it, its outstanding sure it isn't kompozer but its 1/10 the size. If you have firefox or firepup handy just give it a shot.

But it is only "really" designed for editing text box fields in web pages as I describe in the second post of this thread here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41580

["wiak" is actually a team of four programmers at wiak.org; so that identity is generally used in threads concerned with programming work in wiak to try and keep the general and the technical separated].

But... Codetch, which is mainly what I rave about in the above thread is surely what you are after - but well worth having the two Firefox extensions Xinha and "It's All Text" too (desc in same thread). Who needs ugly Seamonkey just for Composer when you can have the beautiful Firefox with Codetch etc (pity it doesn't work with slim and speedy Opera; the notebook in Opera is pretty similar in function to the excellent, but removed from Puppy, Notecase actually).

"Most users use Kompozer or NVU". Sorry, i think that's not correct. I think, most users did not create homepages very often.

I think that is very true. Most users think that involves coding and don't realise how handy it is to simply write notes in html using a WYSIWYG editor and using such a fast loading local html page as the startup homepage for their browser. With the Codetch Firefox extension, you just need to right click on a displayed page and it becomes instantly editable in another tab of your browser. Or start with a blank page and its just like using a simple wordprocessor. Html isn't just useful for creating big websites... Indeed, I tend to use an old Palm Pilot (well an old Palm m125) as an alarm when I'm baking scones or cooking generally; I also carry a copy of my default browser home page around on that, because I keep all my tech notes on that, and can edit it in any text editor or view it as WYSIWYG using Plucker. Wiki syntax is overated; html is a universal standard and easily translated into other formats (such as Latex, rtf, Plucker, or stripped to bare text). Hence my poorly designed local html homepage template: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41466

Forget online (slow and out of the user's control) editors and AJAX etc (do you really want to rely on the likes of Google for your own notes?); Codetch is less than 400 kB in size and much nicer to use than Seamonkey's Composer.

It's time Puppy official adopted pretty Firefox and got rid of ugly old Seamonkey (which can never keep up with FF). I'm sure the Seamonkey default puts many potential users off (though I understand it having been chosen - Composer and inbuilt Mail/News - but nowadays we have better, smaller, and more efficient options - in terms of look and feel, Seamonkey also has very poor configurability compared to FF or Opera).

Opera... well, it's great, but it has its problems (despite its speed and general lack of bloat) and the Mozilla Gecko engine is a much used component more generally. Try Codetch! You may fall in love with it.

I'm forever trying to trim the bloat; hence my introducing pjsip to the Puppy community http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 406#206406, (for which I was given no credit -admittedly I was unable to put any time into what followed being faced as I was with a Hague convention family situation much like ecomoney once described... I'm still stuck in that mess almost one year later...), as well producing the Gizmo-mini pet: http://www.puppylinux.ca/tpp/foksyfeyer ... izmo-mini/

I feel like saying lol to emulate ttuuxxx madness (don't know why...)

I must say that I agree with ttuuxxx about gtkdialog (with bash); I've always hated it. I much prefer C programming and a better GUI toolkit that doesn't leave processes running around out of control. gtkdialog is fine for only the simplest of apps (such as Pwget) but anything beyond that and it isn't quite so nice to program as it first seems... very messy.

Vala/Genie (C under the hood) indeed looks like a good way to go for low-bloat application/Puppy-utilities.

[Pelo]

"- 174 kb:
Replace fotoxx-5.0.1 (213 kb) with gpicview-0.1.10 (39kb) or ghunter (39kb) which also has slideshow support. Fotoxx is something in between a image editor and image viewer. Since we have Mtpaint, I don't see any need of more image editors. What we need is fixing the print function in mtpaint."
The future will deny Zigbert. 2016 fotoxx is still alive, ghunter has been forgotten for a long time.
Try a return of ghunter (II)... huum a mi me gusta mucho fotoxx
Nous les français aimons beaucoup fotoxx.

[darry1966]

Why not xpaint??

[Pelo]

Xpaint : i tested it, nothing bad, but i was not enthusiast. but it could be reconsidered. Are screen-shots available with it ? don't remember.
Ghunter is a comic viewer, it's the first time i enconter it in a Puppy (puplite). perhaps it's a jewel...
People should bring them in the sun, from time to time, only to make the menu changed .