Photoscape under Wine

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mikeslr · #1 Post by **mikeslr** » Sun 29 Nov 2015, 22:03

Hi All,

This Program was called to my attention by Mike Walsh. See his post here for a link to its download page and his review. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 678#874678. It seems to be a capable and versatile application for managing various graphics tasks, and has received the highest compatibility rating from WineHQ.

I discovered its previous mention by stowpirate, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 98d#646424 when, hoping it was already mentioned in the Additional Software SubForum, I ran a search.

There is only one "fly in the ointment" that I can see. It is not a portable. Expecting to be installed to Windows, it "unpacks" in the Drive_C within wine's folder, and places its desktop-file (which would create a menu entry in Windows) together with a link to its executable in a folder named Desktop in /root.

On my system, at least, this does not generate a menu entry. So I created a pet which will. I've attached it for your convenience.

As my wine version is wine-portable –note the name and location bolded below-- the bash-script in /root/my-applications/bin is as follows:

#!/bin/sh
wine.sh /mnt/home/wine-portable-1.6.2-2/wine-data/drive_c/'Program Files'/PhotoScape/PhotoScape.exe

The bolding is not part of the script. It is there, above, just to make clear what you must edit after installing the pet in order for it to work with your wine-portable if located or named differently.

If you're running wine (not portable) after installing the pet, open the bash-script in your text editor and change the second line to read:

wine /root/.wine/drive_c/'Program Files'/PhotoScape/PhotoScape.exe

Once Photoscape opens from the Menu, its files in /root/Desktop can be deleted. Probably the entire /root/Desktop folder unless its being used by some other application.

happy computing,

mikesLr

Mike Walsh · #2 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Mon 30 Nov 2015, 01:03

Hi, Mike.

As promised, here's my own personal PhotoScape icon, for the use of anybody who might be interested. It's quite a bit 'prettier' than the stock one, too.

I know it's a wee bit on the large side (@ 256 x 256). But Puppy automatically shrinks icons on the desktop to 48 x 48.....and I find that the larger and more detailed the original icon is, then the sharper it appears on the desktop when Puppy's shrunk it..!

I've also included another one, that I use on the Winstep 'Nexus' launcher dock in XP.

Enjoy!

Mike Walsh · #3 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Fri 04 Dec 2015, 15:40

Hi again, Mike.

Thanks for the Menu .pet! Just tried it in Slacko (running 'standard' WINE); after modifying the entry it works nicely. Cheers for that.

I'll probably use it in modified format in 'Chromebook' Pup & X-Slacko; they both use standard WINE, too. I will, however, be trying it in original format in Tahrpup, as I'm running Shinobar's portable there (1.7.27). I'll let you know how I get on with it.

Nice one..!.

Mike.

mikeslr · #4 Post by **mikeslr** » Sat 05 Dec 2015, 04:07

Hi again Mike,

Like your icons. The one I included in the pet was a matter of convenience --the first I ran across on the Web.

If you edit your post to attach either --your choice-- I'll substitute it for the one I used and re-upload the pet.

I Just found the link at the bottom-right of this Webpage leading to the list of file-types which can be attached. Learn something new every day.

I find it easier to remember where I can find things, that remembering what I find.

mikesLr

Mike Walsh · #5 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Sat 05 Dec 2015, 09:35

Mornin', Mike!

I've just installed your 'Menu' .pet into 'Chromepup'. (My name for ETP's 'Chromebook' Pup.) Modified it to suit 'normal' WINE, and changed the icon path in the .desktop entry to use one straight from my permanent PNG icon store, a copy of which I keep in /mnt/home of every Pup I run.

All working very nicely. Hope you don't mind, but I've extracted your .pet, so's I can see how it's put together. I'm trying to understand .pet 'construction techniques', so I can in the near future start making some of my own. Thought I'd pick something fairly easy to begin with.

Now; clue me in, here, please. When you say you want the icon as an attachment.....isn't that what I've provided above? Or d'you want it as a 48 x 48?

Mike.

musher0 · #6 Post by **musher0** » Sat 05 Dec 2015, 18:18

Hello mikesir and Mike Walsh.

Thank you for your work in collaboration making this [f|w]ine

program
available to Puppyists.

You did rouse my curiosity. How does PhotoScape compare to PhotoFiltre
and / or IrfanView, which also work well over wine?

Would you say that those programs are interchangeable? They do
pretty much the same thing, no?

Thanks in advance for any leads.

musher0

Mike Walsh · #7 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Sun 06 Dec 2015, 22:15

Hi, musher0.

Mmm. Not sure, actually! I have heard a lot of references to Irfanview; I'm going to have a look-see, and investigate it myself. Then I'll be in a better position to give an informed comment...

Will investigate, and let you know. I mean, PhotoScape is just a basic image editing app.....but it's got more than a few surprising tricks up its sleeve (if you know what I mean). I've been using it ever since it was in beta, back in 2007.....then the first official release came out, in 2008. This is the main reason I wanted to get it working under WINE.....and I was very pleasantly surprised by just how well it does run.

I have Adobe's Photoshop CS2 installed in my locked-down, offline install of XP; I keep it for a few specialist graphics apps like this, which just won't run satisfactorily under WINE; not for want of trying, I assure you.

CS2 will install, and run once under WINE.....but refuses to start again after that, so....I gave it up as a bad job, and decided to use it in its native environment. Works better like that! I'll use CS2 and/or the GIMP for big projects.....but I use PhotoScape for small-to-middling tasks; the sort of things it's not worth firing the others up for.

Hope you like PhotoScape, anyway.

Mike.

Mike Walsh · #8 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Mon 07 Dec 2015, 01:04

Hi, Mike & musher0.

Perhaps you guys can help me with something. I know I created the BitMeterOS thread:-

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=99025

However, when I first started off with Puppy last year, I didn't really know much about just what you could do with WINE. Anyway; to cut to the chase...

There's this dinky little app that I used for several years in XP, which does the same job.....'cept it uses even less memory (around 450K or so), called ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter.

http://www.shaplus.com/bandwidth-meter/

Gives a running readout of bandwidth used for 'current session', 'today', and 'this month'. Well, I've tried on & off to get this running under WINE, with a singular lack of success. Until today. By dint of research. I discovered that it needs Visual Basic Runtime files to work. And shaplus.com provide the specific runtime files required for it:-

http://www.shaplus.com/vb/

And it installed under WINE (version_2014's 1.7.51 at the moment), and is running perfectly. Now; in Windows, it's supposed to start automatically upon boot, yes? Obviously, it's not doing that in Puppy, 'cause it'll need a startup script, so's I can place it in the /root/Startup directory. And this is where I'm coming unstuck a bit.

ETP used a startup script called 'silent_launch' for Chrome, in his 'Chromebook' Pup (in my kennel at present).

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#!/bin/sh
# This is silent_launch. ETP Dec 2014
google-chrome --silent-launch &

...and Chrome starts up in about 2 seconds flat with this. Since I run Chrome in all my Pups, I now use it with all of them; works nicely.

Anyway; I thought I'd try and modify this to launch ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter at boot. Accordingly, I've done this:-

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#!/bin/sh

# Shaplus Bandwidth Meter startup script

wine /root/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter.exe

Naturally enough, for a very first attempt, I'm not in the slightest bit surprised it doesn't work! Currently, I'm starting it manually from a desktop shortcut; as I say, it works perfectly.....as well as it did under Windows. I would, however, love to make it 'auto-start', so.....what am I doing wrong? I should probably post this elsewhere, but I thought I'd ask you guys first, since I know you've both done some of this kinda stuff...

I've attached a piccie to show what it looks like 'in service'.

Mike.

#9 Post by **Flash** » Mon 07 Dec 2015, 01:20

Perhaps someone could explain what Photoscape is, what it's good for? Why would I want to use it?

Mike Walsh · #10 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Mon 07 Dec 2015, 01:43

Hi, Flash.

Well, now. To answer your last question first, I don't for a moment suppose that you, personally, would be interested in using PhotoScape; a Windows photo-editing graphics app. I know from reading many of your posts that you're happy using mtPaint, one of Puppy's native apps. I'm also making rather a large assumption here, but I daresay you're probably one of the very large percentage of Linux users who simply cannot understand why people want to run Windows apps under Linux. Where's the point, when there are plenty of perfectly good Linux apps which will do the same job?

I've used it since it was in beta, back in 2007, and I've got so proficient with it that it's almost second nature. I also use PhotoShop CS2, and the GIMP, for larger projects.....but I often use PhotoScape for laying out 'templates', before I transfer into the 'serious' graphics applications to continue the bulk of a project.

If it wasn't for the fact that I discovered, well over a year ago, that it has the WINE 'Platinum' rating (and runs 100% perfectly), I probably wouldn't have bothered to invest as much time as I have done in getting it to run in Puppy. To tell the truth, I'm a lazy so-and-so; I simply can't be bothered to keep booting backwards and forwards from Puppy to XP (and back again)!

I know there are a number of forum members who, like myself, like to run certain Windows apps under WINE in Puppy. I know this much; I prefer Puppy over XP, any day of the week; but, just sometimes, there are certain Windows applications whose functionality can't quite be matched by their Linux 'equivalents'. And I use WINE solely for this one app.....

Mike.

musher0 · #11 Post by **musher0** » Mon 07 Dec 2015, 02:49

Mike Walsh wrote:Hi, Mike & musher0.

Perhaps you guys can help me with something. I know I created the BitMeterOS thread:
(...)

And it installed under WINE (version_2014's 1.7.51 at the moment), and is running perfectly. Now; in Windows, it's supposed to start automatically upon boot, yes? Obviously, it's not doing that in Puppy, 'cause it'll need a startup script, so's I can place it in the /root/Startup directory. And this is where I'm coming unstuck a bit.

ETP used a startup script called 'silent_launch' for Chrome, in his 'Chromebook' Pup (in my kennel at present).
Code: Select all
#!/bin/sh
# This is silent_launch. ETP Dec 2014
google-chrome --silent-launch &
...and Chrome starts up in about 2 seconds flat with this. Since I run Chrome in all my Pups, I now use it with all of them; works nicely.

Anyway; I thought I'd try and modify this to launch ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter at boot. Accordingly, I've done this:
Code: Select all
#!/bin/sh
# Shaplus Bandwidth Meter startup script
wine /root/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter.exe
Naturally enough, for a very first attempt, I'm not in the slightest bit surprised it doesn't work! Currently, I'm starting it manually from a desktop shortcut; as I say, it works perfectly.....as well as it did under Windows. I would, however, love to make it 'auto-start', so.....what am I doing wrong?
(...)

Mike.

Hi, Mike.

In no order!

Because the file name of the app contains spaces, I would try putting
quotations marks around the command, like so:

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#!/bin/sh
# Shaplus Bandwidth Meter startup script
wine "/root/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter.exe"

I don't know google-chrome, I think I gave it a go a couple of years ago,
and that was that for me. But I suspect that "--silent-launch" is a
google-chrome parameter, not an independent "helper" program.

Try typing < google-chrome --help > in a terminal. It may show you its
launch parameters. And if "--silent-launch" is in that list, well, you'll have
your answer: it will be a google-chrome launch parameter.

As for me, I'd rather tie up your shaplus program with your browser in a
script. I wouldn't necessarily launch shaplus at the Puppy startup, unless
you also routinely use other Internet programs such as an ftp, a P2P and /
or an Internet-Phone app.

Expanding your above launch line for shaplus, I think that something like :

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#!/bin/sh
# Shaplus Bandwidth Meter startup script
wine "/root/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter.exe"
sleep 0.5s # a breather so the programs don't step on each other's toes in RAM
defaultbrowser # if google-chrome is your default browser, of course

would work nicely.

Perhaps move this sub-thread about shaplus in its own thread dealing with
wine progs? (Create one if it doesn't exist?)

Or rename the current thread to a more general title about wine
programs and include an index, i.e. pointers to the particular posts for
program x, y or z in the first post? Just a thought. Maybe ask Flash for
advice about this?

I agree with you that some WhineDose GPL, open-source or free
apps are better crafted than some of our own Linux programs. "Talent
knows no borders," as the saying goes. Physical, or mentally created.

Personally, I think that Sumatra_PDF is such a program. Purists will try to
make you feel otherwise, but there is no shame in using a good app over
wine in a Linux distro. The capacity to integrate apps from various
sources is one of the strengths of Linux and all to its credit, IMO.

I hope this helps. BFN.

Mike Walsh · #12 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Mon 07 Dec 2015, 11:08

Morning, musher0!

Well, thank you very much for that morsel of advice, mon ami. The quotation marks did the trick.

Changing

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#!/bin/sh 
# Shaplus Bandwidth Meter startup script 
wine /root/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter.exe

...to...

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#!/bin/sh 
# Shaplus Bandwidth Meter startup script 
wine "/root/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter/ShaPlus Bandwidth Meter.exe"

...was all it took; and reminded me, yet again, of just how important it is with Linux shell scripts to get your punctuation and syntax spot-on. That's something else I've learnt today. Many thanks!

I'm very new to this business of writing your own stuff, which is why I wanted to start off with something relatively simple, that wasn't 'essential'. Simply something that would be nice to have if it would work. Out of curiosity, what do the quotation marks actually do in this instance?

(And please don't feel too bad that I didn't take you up on your other suggestion to 'tie-in' ShaPlus with the browser itself. I've always been one for taking the 'course of least resistance', and the simpler I can make something, I will. Less to 'break', that way; and you don't need me to tell you there are many different ways of achieving the same result in Linux...)

As far as Linux apps & programs go, the majority of them work extremely well, and more than fulfill their functions as far as I'm concerned. I suspect I'm like a lot of former Windoze users, though; there are certain apps that you get so used to using in your particular 'work-flow' (PhotoScape being one of them in my case, in conjunction with Photoshop and the GIMP),that if, by a small miracle, they will run under WINE, it honestly makes more sense to do so than to re-learn a whole new way of doing things. Although I'm more than happy to do so if it's unavoidable.

I hope that makes sense. Thanks again. My learning-curve is starting to show signs of 'flattening out' a touch; though in my estimation, the day you stop learning is the day you give up on life... Cheers!

Have thoroughly 'hijacked' mikeslr's thread (even though it was inspired by some of my own ramblings!), I feel it's time to gracefully retire...

Mike.

stemsee · #13 Post by **stemsee** » Mon 07 Dec 2015, 12:28

The quotation marks preserve the entire string including spaces. You could also quote only the parts with spaces. You could also have escaped '\' the spaces, if I am not wrong.

Mike Walsh · #14 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Mon 07 Dec 2015, 12:45

Hi, stemsee.

Thanks for the info on that; much appreciated. I've still got a long way to go, though..! But every little bit adds to my store of knowledge.

Cheers.

Mike.

mikeslr · #15 Post by **mikeslr** » Mon 07 Dec 2015, 16:05

Hi Mike Walsh & All,

I downloaded the Photoscape_folder_icon.png Mike Walsh provided, used it to replace the png I originally used and re-uploaded the pet.

In answer to Mike's question, " When you say you want the icon as an attachment.....isn't that what I've provided above?"

I'm not sure what I was thinking, or if I was thinking at all.

Your question jogged me out of complacency. I knew that if an attachment has a download button, clicking it would download the attachment. I also know that I could take a snapshot of a graphic and edit it into a usable icon. I also knew that on other Webpages, graphics could be clicked and downloaded. I don't know if I ever realized that right-clicking a graphic attachment on the Forum produced a drop-down menu with a Save Image Option.

I'll be back later to consider if I have anything useful to add regarding the subsequent posts. Breakfast now.

mikesLr

P.S. If Flash or one of the other moderators is reading this, I just realized that this Thread should be in the Graphic Section.

Mike Walsh · #16 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Tue 08 Dec 2015, 12:06

Mike...!!

mikeslr wrote:Your question jogged me out of complacency. I knew that if an attachment has a download button, clicking it would download the attachment. I also know that I could take a snapshot of a graphic and edit it into a usable icon. I also knew that on other Webpages, graphics could be clicked and downloaded. I don't know if I ever realized that right-clicking a graphic attachment on the Forum produced a drop-down menu with a Save Image Option.

How many years have you been using these things? That's the way I've been amassing my large collection of icons off the web for ages...

Mike.

Pelo · #17 Post by **Pelo** » Sun 06 Mar 2016, 03:50

I will test Photoscape nextweek. Just to inform PhotoFiltre runs under Wine (for Linuxians having trash Windows, or broken it)
Editing holidays pictures under Wine is not the best..
Photoscape does not download, i shall see to-morrow and feedback.
"Après tout, pourquoi pas ??? - version 3.4
"Photoscape" fonctionne bien & il est simple.
Ceci dit, il ne peut pas être comparé à XnView ou mieux (à mon avis) à FastStone Image Viewer ou autres pro." told me a friend of mine. from Clubic. he succeeds in dowloading version 3.7 FR id est French.. Faststone was my choice until now, can be used with wine too. Managing pictire undr wine with Faststone is acceptable.
Puppy Linux is better than Windows in graphics, in my opinion.
Here we go !

photoscape_3-7_fr_41582.exe: 21 M
Version 3.7 (2014.09.11)
* Added 'Black & White' and 'Bandicoot' filters (Editor > Home)
* Added a 'Smart Blur' brush (Editor > Tools > Effect Brush)
* Brush sizes increase from 3 to 4 and become bigger.
* Added 29 more film effects so totally 35 film effects now. (Editor > Home)
* Improved the 'Film Effect' UI
"something wrong happened !" Ah

they speak in english about google drive..

Pelo · #18 Post by **Pelo** » Sun 06 Mar 2016, 08:32

Je change mon fusil d'épaule, i change my rifle of shoulder ( i turn around) with the pet provided by Mikeslr.
I must translate the topic because things don't go...
On a sunday morning, i will certainly miss the mass.
damned, it crashes ! Wouldn't it be because my window is 'seven' ? I don't think so.
Remember, Faststone does it. But i would have like to see Photoscape running. I will try it with Windows Seven after the Sunday mass.

Pelo · #19 Post by **Pelo** » Sun 06 Mar 2016, 12:26

Photoscape launched under my Windows 'Seven' satisfy me a lot, at first try. A lot of new stuff in this brave Photoscape. Merci .
Under Winne : i shall try now to link my puppy to the Installed Photoscape.
je suis optimiste.
music2go.iso: 219 M Puppy ISO in my jukebox this Sunday afternoon (Wine in the Menu ) failed to launch my version of Photoscape.

Mike Walsh · #20 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Mon 07 Mar 2016, 01:36

How are you actually trying to do this in Puppy, Pelo? Which version of WINE are you using?

I only ask because all my Pups are currently running version2013's Wine 1.7.51 at the moment.....and all my PhotoScapes are working perfectly.

The only fly in the ointment is that in some of my Pups, you can't change text colour if you're adding text to a photo. It stays stubbornly on green...

But in ETP's 'Chromebook' Pup, and X-Slacko 2.3.2, it will change text colour. In fact, in those two everything works.....even better than it does under Windows (and it was written for Windows!)

As long as you set up wine correctly, by running 'winecfg' in /usr/sbin (not /usr/bin), then PhotoScape should install with just a click. (At least, it does for me.....)

Don't try and do it with 'Winetricks'; you'll fail miserably. I know; I've tried it..! Doesn't seem to work that way, unfortunately.

I have no idea how this works with Portable-WINE. I think the other Mike will know more about that than I would; I believe he uses Portable-WINE, judging by his first post on page 1.

BTW, my signature was done entirely in PhotoScape (after I'd installed the TrSahDungeon TTfont into .wine/drive_c/Windows/Fonts, and done a re-boot to get it to show up...)

PhotoScape should come up looking like the shot below.

Mike.

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Photoscape under Wine

Photoscape under Wine

Your Icons

Photoscape Menu Pet Updated

Just to inform PhotoFiltre runs under Wine

i turn around) with the pet provided by Mikeslr.

link my puppy to the Installed Photoscape