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Mike Walsh · Joined: 28 Jun 2014 Posts: 6397 Location: King's Lynn, UK.

No, we decided to go to Cromer for the afternoon; home of the famous 'Cromer crabs'...

Don't really know why we bothered. Nice enough in the sun, but there was a fresh nor'-easterly blowing on-shore yesterday. Out of the sun it was bloody freezing.

I remembered why I hadn't been to Cromer for years & years. 'Cos it's dead.....absolutely nothing to do there, and you haven't even got a proper beach....it's all shingle & pebbles.

And it's a neck-breaking trip from the top of the cliff to the seafront! Must be a 1 in 3 slope all the way down. Whoever said Norfolk was flat doesn't know what they're wittering on about...

Mike 2 Mike.

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 11331

Ah yes...did pop into Cromer...once Very Happy

hunstanton has nice beaches.... was closest to milton keynes too.
But after that as you say its stony and lots of men with wellies wanting to charge you to stop in a field for the priviledge

mike

peebee · Posted: Fri 15 May 2015, 06:52 Post subject:

I downloaded the 0.8.0 version onto LxPupTahr-15.03

I had to edit:
/var/lib/bitmeter/runweb.sh
to get it to pickup defaultbrowser

I used sns to make a wifi connection.....bitmeteros didn't see the connection or any traffic - see screenie.

Check dependencies doesn't indicate any missing lib problems.

Wonder what I'm doing wrong??

Geoffrey · Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 2379 Location: Queensland

peebee, check the task manager to see if bmcapture running, if not run /etc/init.d/bitmeter start in the terminal.

I'm downloading LxPupTahr-15.03.1-pae.iso so I'll try it in that and see what the problem is.

Weird that it didn't start the default browser.

peebee · Posted: Fri 15 May 2015, 08:15 Post subject:

Geoffrey · Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 2379 Location: Queensland

peewee, well it works with the pet package in LxPupTahr-15.03.1-pae, did you create the /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.8 symlink that's needed.

It don't show on the first run of palemoon if run from the menu, but after that it works ok.

peebee · Posted: Fri 15 May 2015, 11:21 Post subject:

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 11331

Ok did some testing with curious results that may or may not be useful.

Tested on Lucid... used all root package....did not use any network detection.
0.8.0 runs but did not show any network usage (NaN) restarted bitmeter and still nothing to check if upset by initial lack of network.
Noted bitmeter was using 17MB!..4 threads.

0.7.8 As before... bitmeter does work...gathers data ok. Web interface refuses to show. Both daemons using 750k ram. 1 thread.

Now the fun bit... same constructed packages but testing on 4.12
0.8.0 runs but not showing any network usage. Restarted bitmeter and then did record data...functioning 100%. Ok network detection would help there.
bitmeter using 1MB 4 threads...

0.7.8 runs perfectly...no restart needed. both use 750k ram 1 thread.

In all cases network is eth0 wired lan. I did notice a delay for 0.8.0 to get going ...perhaps it needs to sort out between lan and internet at a guess.

So a right mixed bag of behaviour...and I see a similar mixture going on in this thread. Could the kernel be a factor ?

As for network perhaps move away from the included start/stop scripts to one that runs a script that provides a network happy startup of both daemons....just a rationalisation of geoffreys approach...more puppy friendly in other words.

mike

Geoffrey · Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 2379 Location: Queensland

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 11331

Geoffrey · Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 2379 Location: Queensland

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 11331

well that would do the do indeedy. I tend to think of startup for X apps.

I noticed you have a fair amount of ram taken by bitmeter...seems to be the case with the 0.8.0 release... I had 1MB when happy and a mad 17MB when not.... thats reserved which I tend to use as an indicator of ram use...figures from htop.

mike

Geoffrey · Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 2379 Location: Queensland

You had me worried about that for a moment there, I couldn't remember if I had start or restart.

Yeah it does seem to be a little on the hungry side

Geoff

Mike Walsh · Joined: 28 Jun 2014 Posts: 6397 Location: King's Lynn, UK.

Mike Walsh · Joined: 28 Jun 2014 Posts: 6397 Location: King's Lynn, UK.

@Geoffrey:-

I believe you and Mike ARE right; 0.8.0 does seem to be a lot 'hungrier' than 0.7.6. Even I've found figures in the region of 18MB, using Htop.

0.7.6 is quite delicate, compared to that. I suppose it's the old story again; do you want a basic app.....or do you want all the bells and whistles?

Obviously, it won't make much difference if you have several GB of RAM to play with (as is the case on my desktop), but if you're in the 'upto a gig' bracket (as is the case with a lot of older hardware, including MY old Dell), then it might be wiser to recommend to people that they use the stable 'version'...

What do you think?