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stemsee

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Feb 2015, 09:59    Post subject:  

The fatdog kernel 3.18.7 should be fine for what you want, and it ships with fewer unnecessary modules and firmware. It has been very carefully configured. sukk (stems-unattended-kernel-kit) allows you to modify the configuration and build your own kernel with a custom appendage. I often use the fatdog kernel as a reliable replacement when I mess my system up with experiments. But i do like to have the latest version number with a custom appendage.
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Q5sys


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PostPosted: Thu 26 Feb 2015, 13:33    Post subject:  

peebee,
I apologize if you mentioned this previously and i missed it when reading. Are you using the Slackware64 14.1 Stable Branch or the Slackware64 14.Current Branch?
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peebee


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PostPosted: Thu 26 Feb 2015, 13:43    Post subject:  

Q5sys wrote:
peebee,
I apologize if you mentioned this previously and i missed it when reading. Are you using the Slackware64 14.1 Stable Branch or the Slackware64 14.Current Branch?


From: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=94430

Quote:
now using slackware64-14.1 binaries


how stable they are - IDK

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Feb 2015, 13:46    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
Q5sys wrote:
peebee,
I apologize if you mentioned this previously and i missed it when reading. Are you using the Slackware64 14.1 Stable Branch or the Slackware64 14.Current Branch?


From: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=94430

Quote:
now using slackware64-14.1 binaries


how stable they are - IDK


Ah yea, I the part about being based on the slacko version. Thanks.

No need to be concerned; 14.1 is very stable. It's Slackware... its stable. Razz
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peebee


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PostPosted: Fri 27 Feb 2015, 06:15    Post subject: Re: Kernel  

Volhout wrote:
Is it possible to create an iso (no need for UEFI) with kernell 3.18.5 or later.


Hi Volhout

Have tried both the 3.19.0-64 and 3.18.6-64 kernels as provided by stemsee (thanks) and the 3.18.7 kernel from Fatdog64.

All work - but the 3.19 version doesn't have wifi firmware and is set to verbose boot so the 3.18.6 or 3.18.7 versions are probably "better" for your purposes.

Try them for yourself.....on a (fresh) frugal install:

1. download https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4GhZVmB2RkwUms2Q3RmbFhHa0U

2. extract the vmlinuz and kernel-modules.sfs

3. move them to your frugal install folder and rename kernel-modules.sfs to zdrv_lxpup64_14.12.sfs

4. boot the updated system and test

If you want to try the Fatdog64 3.18.7 kernel as suggested by stemsee get it from:
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/fatdog/kernels/700/

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stemsee

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Feb 2015, 08:04    Post subject:  

Just copy the wifi firmware from anywhere if you want to use the 3.19.0 kernel
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Feb 2015, 10:55    Post subject:  

stemsee wrote:
Just copy the wifi firmware from anywhere if you want to use the 3.19.0 kernel
Could always try here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97276.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Feb 2015, 14:16    Post subject:  

There is a slight variation for adding kernel modules/firmware/libc6/glibcc etc copy them (expanded) into your save file/dir. This way you can keep both sets of modules (previous and new) without renaming or moving the zdrv_kernel-modules.sfs, and have two kernels with slightly different names to boot with.
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peebee


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Mar 2015, 07:12    Post subject: LxPupApril64  

LxPupApril64-15.04

VERY EXPERIMENTAL!!

USE WITH CAUTION


.pets to add LxPup to Quirky April-7.0.3 64 bit to create LxPupApril64-15.04 have been uploaded.

There are 2 pets - the first large one installs all the necessary components

The 2nd "setup" pet makes the system changes and activates LXDE (LXDE can be deactivated by uninstalling this pet)

The component pet is rather large due to the way it is constructed using the Porteus 64-bit LXDE module - if you install onto a frugal install of April64 you will need more than 2GB of ram.

I haven't managed to get pup-volume-monitor working on April64 so instead there is an icon on the desktop called "drives" which runs pmount. From pmount you can mount and access drives and then in PCManFM (version 1.2.3) you can use the bookmark feature to remember the mounted drive/partition. (see screenie)

There is also a "save" icon on the desktop to save a session image back into q.sfs when running a frugal install
There is no install icon as I've assumed that the pets would be loaded onto a version of April64 that has already been frugally installed. Use the "Run" menu item to run installquirky.amd64 if you want to install from within LxPup.
The pets can however be installed onto a live session of April64 to test (if you've got enough ram)

All my testing has been on my desktop with 4GB ram with a frugal install of Quirky-April7.0-64

Mainly a proof of concept to see how much could be achieved using April64 as the base.

Cheers
peebee

Pet links:
Components: lxpup4april64-15.04.pet
Setup: lxpupsetup-qa64.15.04.pet
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Mar 2015, 03:28    Post subject: LxPup64-15.03.01-hybrid.iso  

LxPup64-15.03.01-hybrid.iso is available for download

The following are updated / changed:

Kernel is updated to 3.18.7 from fatdog64

PcManFM / libfm & lxpanel @ latest versions (1.2.3 & 0.8.0)

openssl, ppm2, pfind / pfilesearch, pup-sys-info, yassm updated

gnumeric / goffice fixed

new default background

.desktop file (shortcut) editing activated

Cheers
peebee

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Volhout

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Mar 2015, 06:34    Post subject: LxPUP 15.03 on C720  

Dear PeeBee,

I was happy to see that you released the image with the FatDog kernel before I had started to try and exchange the kernel for the FatDog one.

LxPup 15.03 boots on the ACER C720, but the first obstacle is that the touchpad does not work (it does on FatDog however). This is an uncommon touchpad, I think it is I2C, and since it works in FatDog, I assume it is part of this kernel.

I will search for a mouse, and do some more testing this evening.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Mar 2015, 06:34    Post subject: LxPUP 15.03 on C720  

Some more info on C720 compatibility for LxPup 15.03

(dmesg):
"New USB device found, idVendor=0489, idProduct=e056"
Some error messages, and then is segfaults.

EDIT: checked the DMESG from fatdog, and they already have some lines where they specifically check on chromebooks. So this may be part of their init scripts...
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sszindian


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PostPosted: Mon 09 Mar 2015, 20:10    Post subject: 15.03.01  

Upgrade of LXPup-64-14.12.02-hybrid with LXPup-64-15.03.01-hybrid.

Upgrade went well !

First test was printing, worked as before (after the extra .pet was installed on previous version). I also tested printing from a ram-only install of 15-03-01 and it worked OOTB after installing the hplip file from the PPM but, still no xsane scan this way... even downloaded the special xsane scanner program in the PPM... no go.

Second test was for xsane scanner on the new 15.03.01 install... still does not work!

I had FirefoxESR installed on 14.12.02 with an icon in the LX pannel. After installing the Chromium-41 w/pepperflash I decided to eliminated Firefox. A right/click on the Firefox icon, selected delete and got a message this would not be recoverable. Thinking it would be only the Firefox icon that would be deleted I selected OK and that's when the entire bottom LX pannel disappeared.

Is there anyway to recover this?

Still believe this build shows potential... Testing continues

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Mar 2015, 03:09    Post subject: Re: 15.03.01  

sszindian wrote:
I decided to eliminated Firefox. A right/click on the Firefox icon, selected delete and got a message this would not be recoverable. Thinking it would be only the Firefox icon that would be deleted I selected OK and that's when the entire bottom LX pannel disappeared.

Is there anyway to recover this?


Hi sszindian

Thanks for testing.

The panel can't truly be deleted as its in the puppy.sfs at:
/root/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/panel

There will be a whiteout file "hiding" it.

You can see all the whiteout files from:
System -> System -> Pup-SysInfo -> Sys files -> .wh files

You need to either delete the .wh file from your savefolder or copy the panel file back from the .sfs - then restart the window manager.

Cheers
peebee

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Mar 2015, 15:01    Post subject: Re: 15.03.01  

sszindian wrote:
Second test was for xsane scanner on the new 15.03.01 install... still does not work!

If this was a 32-bit Pupplet, where would you go for print/scan drivers?

You need a source of similar 64-bit drivers, like here.
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