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pakt


Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Wed 06 Dec 2006, 15:53    Post_subject:  
zikarus wrote:
I cannot run the LiveCD or from USB because my USB driven Logitech keyboard and mouse are not recognized so that I cannot get on during the start-up process when it wants me to choose a language/keyboard layout...

Is there any way around this issue (besides searching for an old cable keyboard of course Smile or any modification that can easily be implemented?

zikarus, I may be able to help you. Is there any way you can run the following command with your USB kbd and mouse plugged in and post the results:

# cat /proc/bus/usb/devices

That may give a clue why your keyboard and mouse are not detected.
Paul
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zikarus

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 13:20    Post_subject:  
Dear Paul,

thanks for your help.

I have no other keyboard besides this cordless (argh, I forgot to mention this detail before, didn't I?) here in my office. I have therefore run your command under Backtrack, which seems to have no problem with my keyboard/mouse combo.

Here is the (shortened) output:

T: Bus=03 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 4
B: Alloc= 28/900 us ( 3%), #Int= 2, #Iso= 0
D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.06
S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.18-rc5 ohci_hcd
S: Product=OHCI Host Controller
S: SerialNumber=0000:00:02.1
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms

T: Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=046d ProdID=c502 Rev=11.40
S: Manufacturer=Logitech
S: Product=USB Receiver
C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr= 50mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=usbhid
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=10ms
I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usbhid
E: Ad=82(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=10ms

T: Bus=02 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 4
B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=0000 ProdID=0000 Rev= 2.06
S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.18-rc5 ohci_hcd
S: Product=OHCI Host Controller
S: SerialNumber=0000:00:02.0
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms

... (more host controllers following)

Hope that helps.

BR
zikarus

Btw. I have the same issue with another type of cordless Logitech keyboard/mouse combo at home...
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puppyfan12


Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Location: Ontario, Canada
PostPosted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 14:45    Post_subject: Muppy-006-212 release?  
Muppy-006-212.iso
44e1488789d7ab00e7436633af1bd6ee Muppy-006-212.iso

Is this the real thing or a hoax? I haven't been able to find any info about this being released yet.

Is there an official website or something for the muppy distro that lists release and version info?
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zikarus

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Posts: 12
PostPosted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 14:50    Post_subject:  
No, it does not seem to be a hoax but the real stuff Smile

No homepage as far as I know, but this forum/thread is the right address to stay tuned...

BR
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MU


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Location: Karlsruhe, Germany
PostPosted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 15:56    Post_subject:  
I uploaded it while I was away to work.

version 006:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13510

If I get no reports about serious bugs, I'll delete the older versions next week Smile

No, no webpage yet.
Maybe in early 2007.
I'm too busy with work/coding. And maybe women, lets see what happens Wink

Mark
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pakt


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 16:01    Post_subject:  
zikarus wrote:

T: Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=046d ProdID=c502 Rev=11.40
S: Manufacturer=Logitech
S: Product=USB Receiver
C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr= 50mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=usbhid
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=10ms
I: If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usbhid
E: Ad=82(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=10ms

Yes, it is as I suspected. In 2.12 (on which Muppy is based) the script /etc/rc.d/rc.local0 checks for a USB mouse by examining all of the lines returned by "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" for "mouse|trackball|netscroll|bt mini\-receiver". Your info contains "USB Receiver" which is NOT detected by the script.

I have suggested to Barry that the test be made on "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02" which, as far as I have been able to determine, is a more reliable way to detect a USB mouse.

If you would like to test this, edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local0 and change line 191 from
Quote:
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i --extended-regexp "mouse|trackball|netscroll|bt mini\-receiver"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"
to
Quote:
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"

Don't forget to reboot after modifying the file or Puppy won't save the change to pup_save.3fs. After rebooting, your mouse (and keyboard) should be detected.

Hope it works Smile
Paul
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zikarus

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Dec 2006, 16:18    Post_subject:  
Hey that is good news!
Will try that out tomorrow at work.
Thx Paul
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jared

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 33
Location: Las Cruces, New Mexico, USA
PostPosted: Fri 08 Dec 2006, 01:14    Post_subject:  
Mark,

Thanks!

I have installed muppy and I have not been happier or more productive with an OS since I left Mac OS 10.4.

http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p24/jaroodude/?action=view&current=jpdesktop.jpg

Jared
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zikarus

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Dec 2006, 09:41    Post_subject:  
pakt wrote:

Yes, it is as I suspected. In 2.12 (on which Muppy is based) the script /etc/rc.d/rc.local0 checks for a USB mouse by examining all of the lines returned by "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" for "mouse|trackball|netscroll|bt mini\-receiver". Your info contains "USB Receiver" which is NOT detected by the script.

I have suggested to Barry that the test be made on "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02" which, as far as I have been able to determine, is a more reliable way to detect a USB mouse.

If you would like to test this, edit /etc/rc.d/rc.local0 and change line 191 from
Quote:
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i --extended-regexp "mouse|trackball|netscroll|bt mini\-receiver"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"
to
Quote:
[ ! "`cat /proc/bus/usb/devices 2>/dev/null | grep -i "Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02"`" = "" ] && USBMOUSEDEV="input/mice"

Don't forget to reboot after modifying the file or Puppy won't save the change to pup_save.3fs. After rebooting, your mouse (and keyboard) should be detected.

Hope it works Smile
Paul



It does Paul Smile - thx a lot!!!!

BR
zikarus
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pakt


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PostPosted: Fri 08 Dec 2006, 14:54    Post_subject:  
zikarus, glad you got it working Smile

Paul
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puppyfan12


Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Location: Ontario, Canada
PostPosted: Fri 08 Dec 2006, 17:48    Post_subject: muppy website  
MU wrote:

No, no webpage yet.
Maybe in early 2007.
I'm too busy with work/coding. And maybe women, lets see what happens Wink

Mark


Mark I want to thank you for making muppy and for all the posts and information you've contributed to this forum.

I came across puppy/muppy looking for linux distros designed to run on old hardware. I have been using dsl, puppy and muppy for a couple days on a spare machine that I'm giving away to someone running for town council who's never used a computer before. The speed is acceptible on the old hardware (it's only an amd k6-2 266, 128mb ram and 512mb ide hdd).

I setup muppy dual boot on my XP machine and it's darn fast on this machine. (amd 3000+, 1gb ram, geforce4 ti 4200, wd raptor 36gb 10,000rpm sata drive)

I'm so impressed with how fast it runs I'm going to move all my firefox and thunderbird email from windows XP into muppy and use it as my primary OS.

I'd be happy to setup a muppy website for you as my contribution back to you and the open source community.

I can setup a CMS and give you admin permissions to upload files and add whatever muppy related information you want.
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