Bluetooth + streaming for tahrpup 6.x

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Mike Walsh · #41 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Sat 07 Feb 2015, 17:13

@rcrsn51:-

I don't know if I'm correct in this assumption, but..... I have a pair of these Cambridge Silicon Radio Dongles, which I was using to transfer files between the Compaq & the Dell lappie under the 'buntu's, BEFORE I discovered Samba. Since I don't have any other Bluetooth devices, they're kind of redundant now.

IF these are the same device, then they certainly DO support audio streaming. To quote from the back of the packaging:

".....
*) Supporting profiles: networking, dial-up, fax, lan access & headset....
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*) Symbol rate: 3MBps....
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*) Receiving/sending range: 100m...
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*) Wireless connect to bluetooth devices such as mobile phones, pda or pc for data transfer, etc....
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*) Enabled wireless connection to bluetooth headset....
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*) Supports bluetooth voice data....."

Thought you might be interested. As I said, though, since discovering Samba, for me, at least, they're now redundant.....it's just SO much faster and easier! I shall keep them for when I upgrade my phone again. I WILL get a Bluetooth-enabled model next time... And who knows; I might even get MYSELF a bluetooth headset, and follow the instructions in this thread..!

Regards,

Mike.

rcrsn51 · #42 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sat 07 Feb 2015, 17:34

As a test, I set up Bluetooth filesharing between two Puppy machines using Tahrpup and external USB dongles. I was surprised at how SLOW it was. It would have almost been faster to email the files between the machines!

I suppose that the BT method would be useful to people who want to download files off their phones through FTP. But so far, I have not seen a successful test of this procedure.

Mike Walsh · #43 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Sat 07 Feb 2015, 17:52

I have to agree with you. I first got hold of them when both machines were running XP, at least 2 years ago now.

To transfer a 10 MB file took, I think, somewhere in the range of nearly 45-50 secs; it's not at all quick. I can pull that same file across the home LAN, from the Compaq to the Dell, using Samba, in about 5 secs or so..!

I think like pchan says, it's only vaguely useful when you're not on the same network, and can't use Samba.

Regards,

Mike.

pchan · #44 Post by **pchan** » Sat 07 Feb 2015, 20:23

I am very happy because now I can get sound to stream to my Bluetooth Headset using "bluez_4.101-streaming.pet" in Tahrpup 6.01 no pae (testing folder version).

VLC works
SMplayer works

Now, if somebody can tell me how to get youtube to send sound to my bluetooth headset, I would be most grateful.

I am using palemoon browser that came along with Tahrpup with flashplayer 10.

Sound is ok with plugged in headphone or built in speakers.

Thanks

rcrsn51 · #45 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sat 07 Feb 2015, 21:23

pchan wrote:Now, if somebody can tell me how to get youtube to send sound to my bluetooth headset, I would be most grateful.

I could not get that to work either. I even changed asound.conf to make btheadset the default ouput, but all I got was static.

[Edit] I finally got this to work in Youtube with Flash. Read below. But it would NOT work for me with HTML5 video.

Mike Walsh · #46 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Sun 08 Feb 2015, 11:40

@rcrsn51:-

Any chance you could let me have the info on how to use obexfs to transfer data files? I've downloaded the obexfs .pet, but of course, it doesn't show up in the main menu, and I've no idea how you actually set it up.

I'd be most grateful if you could let me know. Also, although both my machines will recognise their respective dongles using

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rfkill list

and I have found the MAC address of each one using

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# hcitool dev
Devices:
	hci0	00:15:83:0C:BF:EB

I'm not quite sure where to go from here as regards setting up file transfer. It is, of course, a bit different from XP where you've got the Bluetooth wizard... The problem I have is that there's no way to put them into 'discovery' mode; not with a physical switch, or something like that.

How can I do that via the software?

Thanks!

Regards,

Mike.

pchan · #47 Post by **pchan** » Sun 08 Feb 2015, 12:26

rcrsn51 wrote:
pchan wrote:Now, if somebody can tell me how to get youtube to send sound to my bluetooth headset, I would be most grateful.
I could not get that to work either. I even changed asound.conf to make btheadset the default ouput, but all I got was static.

Being able to get Bluetooth Headset working with

DeadBeef
Smplayer
VLC

already brings much Joy in using Puppy Linux (Tahrpup)

I also tested the "bluez_4.101-streaming.pet" with the latest Tahrpup v6.02 and it worked well.

Don't mind if I cannot transfer files using Bluetooth for now. Your YASSM is all I need for file transfer.

I don't know for others but comparing Bluetooth file transfer and the ability to connect Bluetooth Headsets, I choose connection to Bluetooth headsets first. Being able to connect Bluetooth mouse might be second. Bluetooth file transfer , third.

It is interesting that in Tahrpup 6.02, I didn't need to use the "up" switch before scanning.

666philb has really done a great job. The rtl8192ce WiFi drivers which is needed for my net-book also worked smoothly without any problem. YASSM 2.7 was included so yay!

If and when there is a way to solve Youtube and bluetooth headset, please do keep me updated. But until then, I think puppy linux (Tahrpup especially) is finally becoming Bluetooth ready, thanks to your efforts and others. Also thanks to 666philb and Barry K.

rcrsn51 · #48 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sun 08 Feb 2015, 16:46

Mike Walsh wrote:Any chance you could let me have the info on how to use obexfs to transfer data files?

I am sending you some stuff by PM to test.

rcrsn51 · #49 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sun 08 Feb 2015, 17:31

pchan wrote:If and when there is a way to solve Youtube and bluetooth headset, please do keep me updated.

I suspect that the big-boy Linuxes can do this through pulseaudio.

[Edit] Problem solved by using a custom ALSA config file. Read below.

rcrsn51 · #50 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sun 08 Feb 2015, 20:13

Update: This project has been withdrawn due to lack of community interest.

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Mike Walsh · #51 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Mon 09 Feb 2015, 00:18

@rcrsn51:-

Info received, and implemented. Works like a charm.....so that's one more thing you can cross off the Bluetooth 'laundry-list'!

Brilliant work, as always; appreciated.

Regards,

Mike.

rcrsn51 · #52 Post by **rcrsn51** » Wed 11 Feb 2015, 15:17

pchan wrote:Will be interesting to know if "bluez_4.101-streaming.pet" can work with Precise ? Slacko ? Racy ? Lupu ?

The Python+Bluez stack is very distro-specific.

I built a 6 MB package for Precise 571. But there were kernel driver problems with certain BT dongles.

[Edit] I have finally built the stack for Slacko 593 in an 8 MB package.

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pchan · #53 Post by **pchan** » Wed 11 Feb 2015, 20:16

rcrsn51 wrote:
pchan wrote:Will be interesting to know if "bluez_4.101-streaming.pet" can work with Precise ? Slacko ? Racy ? Lupu ?
The Python+Bluez stack is very distro-specific.

I built a working version for Precise 571 out of debs. But there were kernel driver problems with certain BT dongles.

I tried to build one for Slacko but could never find all the required components in the Slackware repos.

I tried a version for Fatdog 63x out of 64-bit debs and got missing symbol errors. I was unwilling to compile the whole stack specifically for Fatdog.

Hi rcrsn51,

I see. It can certainly be challenging if components used by different puppy distros varies from one another. No wonder, even in some earlier versions the same Tahrpup, i got different results.

For now, 666philb has built quite an impressive Tahrpup that can be bluetooth-ready. I hope any future updates of kernels (in my shallow understanding ...) , will not upset the bluetooth headset streaming because as it is right now, it works nice (exception of youtube).

I might be interested as to whether I can connect a bluetooth mouse while the bluetooth headset is connected because I actually do have a bluetooth mouse with me which I bought sometime ago. if i am not wrong, i think more and more they are coming out with those slim ultrabooks which do not have so many USB ports usually.

I did noticed that there is a bluetooth Tahr.sfs around somewhere in the forum. If installing that sfs will clash with the bluetooth headset streaming I would rather not install it.

Any chance, you might do some magic and make it possible for the connections of Bluetooth mouse safely? That would be great.

rcrsn51 · #54 Post by **rcrsn51** » Wed 11 Feb 2015, 20:26

A wireless mouse should have its own driver, independent of this project. If your mouse does not work in Tahrpup, that should be reported as a Tahrpup bug.

[Edit] Problem solved. Read above.

rcrsn51 · #55 Post by **rcrsn51** » Wed 11 Feb 2015, 23:37

FWIW, I have built the Python+Bluez stack for Slacko 593.

efrenefren · #56 Post by **efrenefren** » Sat 25 Apr 2015, 21:07

i was having issues with org.bluez not being found by dbus but rebooting resolved the issue. [edited]

witekjeden · #57 Post by **witekjeden** » Mon 27 Apr 2015, 05:04

Hi.
Please link the PeasyBT v 1.2.
Thx.

rcrsn51 · #58 Post by **rcrsn51** » Mon 27 Apr 2015, 10:22

witekjeden wrote:Please link the PeasyBT v 1.2.

PeasyBT broke in Tahrpup 602, so I withdrew it pending a fix. (The problem was never reported.)

I have now posted v1.3. Please report back.

rcrsn51 · #59 Post by **rcrsn51** » Fri 31 Jul 2015, 14:19

Requesting testers for Bluetooth mice. Read here.

This is specifically for Tahrpup.

april · #60 Post by **april** » Tue 11 Aug 2015, 09:49

So I am trying to find out what I can use for bluetooth pairing . It is not obvious where the download point for the latest release is , despite hints and links on the first page and above ?

I'm using precise 5.7.1 so where do I download it to try?

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

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Bluetooth + streaming for tahrpup 6.x

PeasyBT Bluetooth Manager

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