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MU


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Location: Karlsruhe, Germany

PostPosted: Wed 29 Nov 2006, 20:39    Post subject:  

YES!
cool, thanks G2 Razz

entered this in a console:
sh-3.00# export OUTPUT_CHARSET="utf-8"
sh-3.00# leafpad
sh-3.00#

Now when I save a "test-öäää.txt", tthe name is displayed correct in Rox1.
Must add that line to /etc/profile.local

Ok done:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Muppylinux/Muppy-005-212-servicepack.pup

I did not reboot yet, but that should fix it hopefully Smile

Now just 1 thing remains: Icewm does not display äöü them in the titlebar.
Must search the localzationforum tomorrow, I think we found a solution already.
Ah yes, I must set a unicode-font for it somewhere in the configuration I think.

Mark
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vabene06

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Nov 2006, 02:45    Post subject:  

Hallo MU,
i tested the .tgz-file for umlaute. When opening with abiword, geany, i can read them. But the file in /root/ looks like this: test[][][].txt
maybe the reason for this are my changes i made zu muppy. so: i wait for the next muppy-version und test it on an "clean"-version before ading my kde_.sfs and so on.
i like muppy, go on.
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MU


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Nov 2006, 07:42    Post subject:  

vabene, then Rox does not use a unicode-font I think.
Ok, I'll try to make muppy006 this weekend with all fixes.
It will use rox1 by default again.
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MU


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Nov 2006, 09:27    Post subject:  

I updated the 005-servicepack with the bluefish-startscript and german-locale-file (it was at a wrong location in the iso).
You now should have an entry in debvelopment in the icewm-menu (rebuild the menu if needed)
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MU


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Dec 2006, 20:46    Post subject:  

There will be no version 006 this weekend, but maybe next.

I found out that some errors reported had this reason:
If you start from CD, and choose to use all programs, then the CD is mounted, and a file on it too, called mupp_212.sfs.

The content of this file then is merged with the existing filesystem using the unionfs-driver.
But this happens, when the initial Puppy already booted, and "pivoted" the init-system (/initrd) to the final one (/).
If you add unionfs after this pivot, strange things happen, for example probepart "hangs", so that the Media Utility no longer works.
Or that you cannot create a save-file at shutdown (I think that uses probepart, too).

The current workaround for Muppy005 is:
boot without "all" programs, reboot and confirm to create a savefile, then choose to copy the files to the harddisk (speedwizard).
Now Muppy works correct, because these files are mounted by "init".

In order to get it working also with all programs from the live-CD, I must put my scripts into /sbin/init of initrd.gz.
Just tried it, and it works.
Unfortunately, init is quite complex, and I cannot use "dialog" for the nice menus any more.
So rewriting the logic with new, textmode based menus will take a while.

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Philh

Joined: 17 May 2006
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Dec 2006, 17:19    Post subject:  

I just tried Muppy005 with a Celeron300 and 512M ram.
Works fine for me.
Just two things I noticed

Mplayer wont start, I get this message

sh-3.00# mplayer /mnt/hda9/vids/Lisa.mpg
MPlayer 1.0pre8-3.3.4 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel Celeron A Mendocino/Pentium II Dixon (Family: 6, Model: 6, Stepping: 0)
CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 SSE

Playing /mnt/hda9/vids/Lisa.mpg.

MPlayer interrupted by signal 4 in module: demux_open
- MPlayer crashed by an 'Illegal Instruction'.
It usually happens when you run it on a CPU different than the one it was
compiled/optimized for.
Verify this!
- MPlayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/FPU/RAM.
Recompile MPlayer with --enable-debug and make a 'gdb' backtrace and
disassembly. Details in DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports_what.html#bugreports_crash.
- MPlayer crashed. This shouldn't happen.
It can be a bug in the MPlayer code _or_ in your drivers _or_ in your
gcc version. If you think it's MPlayer's fault, please read
DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html and follow the instructions there. We can't and
won't help unless you provide this information when reporting a possible bug.


Thought I would mention it, But Im quite happy to use Gxine which works well

Except it doesnt play .ra files.
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MU


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Dec 2006, 20:51    Post subject:  

there is an alternative mplayer-dotpup, but it does ot support xvmc-accelleration:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Multimedia/MPlayer-1.0.8/

And the brand-new Release candidate 1:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Multimedia/Mplayer-1.0rc1/

Maybe one of them works for you?
Does it crash with other files, too?
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Philh

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 04:32    Post subject:  

Yes it crashes with any audio or video file.
I will try the other mplayers tonight.
Thanks
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MU


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PostPosted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 09:51    Post subject:  

it seems I must have been dreaming concerning UTF-8.
I now can't reproduce to get it working in Rox1.
The last 2 days I had used another pup_save.3fs to fix the boot-scripts.

Now today back in my old environment, files created with leafpad display garbage as in my last screenshot Confused

So stay with rox2 as default?
I did however replace the icon "waves" with "gimmicks" for 006, what opens a folder with things like setrox1 and setrox2.

Must find out now a comfortable way to set up mime-types using update-mime, so that I can set default-actions.

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Philh

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 16:13    Post subject:  

Mplayer-1.0rc1 works well for me.
All sorts of file types including ra and wmv.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 16:16    Post subject:  

fine. I did not try it yet myself, but if it works, I'll add it to 006.
Thanks, Mark
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Mic67

Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 19:29    Post subject:  

Off topic but, would you consider adding the application "Ipstate" which was made a dotpup by Guest Too. And a front end to iptables firewall called GTKiptables 0.4.2 to the next version of Muppy?

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GuestToo
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Joined: 04 May 2005
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Dec 2006, 20:26    Post subject:  

i think Puppy used to have GTKiptables ... i seem to remember that it did not work very well, and it was recommended that you just use it to get information from iptables, not to configure iptables .. i might be wrong

i seem to remember that it would not run at all if you had run a firewall script first

in any case, it is available as an unleashed package in PupGet

yes, it was included with Puppy 103 and 104 ... it will not run unless you disable your firewall first, or else it will crash with a seg fault ... see: http://www.puppyos.com/puppy-unleashed.htm

i don't really recommend it
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PostPosted: Tue 05 Dec 2006, 14:31    Post subject:  

Humm... yes I did get GTKiptables to work but when there was the segment fault. There must be some other simple front end that could be a substitue? Sometimes I have upwards of 112 rules, like for DOS, floods, bad flags, scanners, syn, etc. Havings something that is easy to work with would be nice. Some servers have over 250 rules...
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zikarus

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Dec 2006, 05:15    Post subject:  

Dear MU,

first of all: I like your Muppy a lot!

I encounter only one little (but quite annoying) problem (as with other Puppys too btw.): I cannot run the LiveCD or from USB because my USB driven Logitech keyboard and mouse are not recognized so that I cannot get on during the start-up process when it wants me to choose a language/keyboard layout...

Is there any way around this issue (besides searching for an old cable keyboard of course Smile or any modification that can easily be implemented?

I want Muppy mainly for my USB stick btw.

BR
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