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official (momanager) language packs
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L18L

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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov 2014, 12:34    Post subject: momanager-20141123
Subject description: fixed 20141008)		  
Bert wrote:
That would be MM-201411xx. (the fixed 20141008).

( if possible with the extension that allows me to talk to anybody anywhere in the world in my language while eating my sandwich and they understand me and I understand them in their language, while they're eating no matter what. What do you think? Maybe better wait for gettext2?)


Here it is attached
it allows you to talk to anybody anywhere in the world in your language while eating your sandwich (but don't speak with "mouth too full")
momanager-20141123.pet
Description  created and tested in precise5.7.1
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov 2014, 14:03    Post subject: Re: momanager-20141123
Subject description: fixed 20141008)		  
Yes, working well!
Thank you L18L...


L18L wrote:
(but don't speak with "mouth too full")


Me? never...
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PostPosted: Thu 27 Nov 2014, 18:10    Post subject: Re: momanager-20141123  
L18L wrote:
Here it is attached
momanager-20141123.pet

I have tested with only one translation. This seems to work.
Thank you L18L!
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Nov 2014, 14:11    Post subject:  
@ L18L
Optionally, you can update the first post of this thread, to add a link to your latest package.
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Nov 2014, 08:00    Post subject:  
ASRI éducation wrote:
... update the first post of this thread, to add a link to your latest package.

...done
Feel free to submit it to woof-ce Wink

Bert, you made me laugh long, thank you Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Nov 2014, 14:01    Post subject:  
L18L wrote:
ASRI éducation wrote:
... update the first post of this thread, to add a link to your latest package.

...done
Feel free to submit it to woof-ce Wink

Thank you L18L.
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Dec 2014, 14:01    Post subject:  
From woof-ce forum:
L18L wrote:
Last version of momanager (by L18L) seems to be ok to be integrated in woof-ce.

mavrothal wrote:
It might be better to remove it from woof and just add it as a pet instead.
Is not needed for any fundamental OS function. Does it?
I think that BK put it originally in woof because he had no better place for it Wink
Though the fixmenus bit is good speed-wise but brakes the hight adjustment introduced some time ago.

I agree with mavrothal, this will leave us more freedom to change/improve momanager (which is not an application for all users).
In this case, it will be necessary to point out precisely the existence of this package: on the wiki, the forum, etc.
What is your opinion?
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Dec 2014, 15:11    Post subject: momanager
Subject description: woof-ce		  
ASRI éducation wrote:
From woof-ce forum:
L18L wrote:
Last version of momanager (by L18L) seems to be ok to be integrated in woof-ce.

mavrothal wrote:
It might be better to remove it from woof and just add it as a pet instead.
Is not needed for any fundamental OS function. Does it?
I think that BK put it originally in woof because he had no better place for it Wink
Though the fixmenus bit is good speed-wise but brakes the hight adjustment introduced some time ago.

I agree with mavrothal, this will leave us more freedom to change/improve momanager (which is not an application for all users).
In this case, it will be necessary to point out precisely the existence of this package: on the wiki, the forum, etc.
What is your opinion?
Regards,

fundamental OS function?
If "English only" is fundamental I am no fundamentalist.
woof built puppies and quirkies were so nice because they did contain everything for worldwide use.
momanager was not in devx, in Barry's latest builts there was no devx needed because other "not fundamental" functions (xgettext, msgfmt, etc) were included.

Anyone could immediately start translating for any language.
Is there any other OS where this is possible?
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Dec 2014, 20:43    Post subject:  
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Anyone could immediately start translating for any language.


There seems to be a flaw with LANG=zh_CN and LANG=zh_SG

The mo file can be created but it takes some clever manipulation to get
it to show in Chinese. Instead everything remains in English.

Even mainstream apps such as mtpaint or deadbeef will show only
English menus until forum member 'icake' does his magic.

I made a special page on installing Chinese menus when using LANG=zh_CN
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87045


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Dec 2014, 15:49    Post subject:  
don570 wrote:
Quote:
Anyone could immediately start translating for any language.


There seems to be a flaw with LANG=zh_CN and LANG=zh_SG

The mo file can be created but it takes some clever manipulation to get
it to show in Chinese. Instead everything remains in English.

Never got any bug report from China.
So what?
... and the method of producing different language packs for every version of any puppy is ... mh... not for my taste
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Dec 2014, 16:01    Post subject: Re: momanager
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L18L wrote:
...Anyone could immediately start translating for any language...
.. and ask for help.

momanager is not only for creating entire language packs
but also for easy way of sharing single translation files in form of *.tgz

@mavrothal
It is any puppy builder's choice to put momanager from woof into the distro.
Correct me if I am wrong please.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jan 2015, 19:15    Post subject:  
momanager worked well in April64. The refresh button came in handy
when I added a new app. Alphabetical listing is good Cool

The list of fuzzy translations is useful as well.

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jan 2015, 05:32    Post subject: fuzzy
Subject description: usage		  
don570 wrote:
momanager worked well in April64. The refresh button came in handy
when I added a new app. Alphabetical listing is good Cool

The list of fuzzy translations is useful as well.

Thank you, Don.

Yes and in Barry's latest works translators do NOT need devx !

Just to let everyone know about fuzzy:
If you are lazy (who is not Laughing )
you start by just some translations
msgmerge in momanager is trying to find a similiar translation and marks it by the line
Quote:
#fuzzy

You check the fuzzy lines, change the msgstr and delete the line containing fuzzy.
If you do not delete it then the translation is ignored.
This is much simpler than trying to translate everything in one run.

Launch of Re-edit is easy because it is at line 1 of the combo box.
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Jan 2015, 15:11    Post subject:  
There is something odd about April64 that I haven't seen with any other
version of Puppy linux. When I use momanager after an installation of a
script with a mo file translation, then the left hand side doesn't show the script in list.

.... but I can get it to appear if I click on the 'Create' button.
Magically it now appears in list. Very strange Rolling Eyes

I suspect that the gettext utilities aren't behaving the way that momanager expects.

I've tested it twice with fresh installs.

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jan 2015, 09:36    Post subject: momanager
Subject description: test in		  
don570 wrote:
I've tested it twice with fresh installs.

Would be helpful to know what you have tested.

I have tested peasyglue.
Installed from package manager.
Launched momanager.
peasyglue is in left side combo box.

Code:
# cat /etc/issue
Quirky April64 Linux
Linux 3.17.4 [x86_64 arch]


#
Code:
# ls -l $HOME/.packages/peasy*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 347 Jan 27 14:24 /root/.packages/peasyglue-1.8.files
#
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