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tlchost

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 03:59    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
As Burn_IT said we need a lead. ie someone to actually start working on this.


I suspect we need not only a lead, but a group of folks who will work on the project.

There's simply too much information for one person to manage.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 05:54    Post subject:  

I was actually trying to lighten the thread a little as well.

The word "lead" was deliberately chosen so as to have several interpretations.

The funny one was in reply to the reference to dementia and putting Wanderer on a puppy lead to stop him wandering off.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 07:18    Post subject:  

that was funny burn_it
i got it

but back to the topic
what would everyone want to see on the home page
i was thinking maybe just
an introduction
the official stable puppies
and some puppies of interest

a link to the forum and other links
can provide the depth

i personally would be willing to start
but i would need some instruction

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 07:30    Post subject:  

tlchost wrote:

I suspect we need not only a lead, but a group of folks who will work on the project.

There's simply too much information for one person to manage.


Puppy Linux is supported, via this forum, by a community, not by just a small group of interested people, so any editing of any community Puppy home page should be all-Puppy-users inclusive (unless BarryK says or has said otherwise). No one is entitled to judge another user's opinions or contributions, especially now that BarryK has basically passed the project on to the Puppy users community. Puppy remains BarryK's copyright and the main domain name belongs to BarryK. I think these issues with domain name and Puppy development management methodology needs to be clarified from BarryK in view of his announced retirement. Otherwise, it is problematic creating a new home page whilst the old domain lies dormant and potentially restrictive if one (or more) dominant group(s) assumes leadership of an open source community developed and supported product.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 08:21    Post subject:  

mcewanw wrote:
so any editing of any community Puppy home page should be all-Puppy-users inclusive (unless BarryK says or has said otherwise).

Oh, let's see, using that logic, every user here should be able to control the forum, or every user should be able to control the IRC channel.

Makes no sense to me.

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Puppy remains BarryK's copyright and the main domain name belongs to BarryK. I think these issues with domain name and Puppy development management methodology needs to be clarified from BarryK in view of his announced retirement.


Yes....so we'll just wait and see what, if anything Barry does.

Shame you did not share the wisdom early on so people could simply stop trying to do anything.
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wanderer

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 08:34    Post subject:  

i think of the puppy community home page
as just a place where people can get a quick introduction to puppy
and a find a list of some of the things that are going on
everyone should be able to post their projects
but they will have to describe them and keep them updated
they can post them to this thread
and then they can be transferred to the home page
links to the forum and other pages can provide depth
if it is kept very simple it will be easy to read and maintain
it does not interfere with Barry Ks domains
because it it just a news page

can raffy give us a page on his website to start

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 09:04    Post subject:  

By the way, I don't know about the rest of you, but I hardly ever visit any Puppy site other than the forum (unless I want to download something). This forum is the centre (center) of all things Puppy for me, but it is a pretty huge jungle which could do with some taming in my opinion. Any new supposedly central, user-supported website, needs to become as active as this forum if it is to stay meaningfully alive.

As for above comment about my feelings/views. No problem, but I'm just expressing my opinion, which isn't particularly strong one way or the other (any longer) about matters like this.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 09:52    Post subject:  

This is all very interesting, but you may want to revisit the 1st post.
This is about a Puppy Linux entry point web site for the new-comer.
Like BK's original only a bit more 21st century. Cool

It is not for a forum consolidation page or a puppy wiki.
Is the page you want your (grand)mother to see when she is trying to find about that "linux dog" she was told about Shocked

If you are interested in helping in such an effort, there is a suggestion in the first post for a collective effort, that currently looks like the picture below. Feel free to work on it.

If you are interested in other kind of puppy pages, please open a different thread or contact the site administrator of an existing site that may be of interest to you.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 10:02    Post subject:  

I think the home page should be a mix of
Puppy.com
Puppy.org

home pages.
and be Puppy.org
with Puppy.com just pointing to it.

If this needs Barry to OK it then so be it and I'm sure he will not disagree as long as the page is not abused.

We do need to nominate a Web Master for it, wherever it is.
The Web Master (ideally a small group) should only be allowed to update the site after changes have been "signed off" to prevent personality clashes.

Just my opinion.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 10:21    Post subject:  

Burn_IT wrote:
I think the home page should be a mix of
Puppy.com
Puppy.org

That is the idea.
So basically most of the content is there.
What it really needs is web designers and graphic artists!

Burn_IT wrote:
We do need to nominate a Web Master for it, wherever it is.
The Web Master (ideally a small group) should only be allowed to update the site after changes have been "signed off" to prevent personality clashes.

The beauty of the (git)hub proposal is that the woof team (see picture of current members) will be also the ones deciding which of the proposed changes actually go on the site.
Is like when BK was developing both puppy and its official site, only collective
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wanderer

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 10:35    Post subject:  

great we had a page all along
(took me a while to get the obvious)

how do you add to it ?

how do you make it the entry point for puppy ?

my suggestion is that community members
post descriptions of their projects on this thread
and then they can be just pasted to the home page
then when there is an update they just post the update
and it replaces the original description
that way people can find a quick view of what is happening
and links to the threads where the discussions are going on
more in depth stuff can be pointed to by links to other pages
its very hard to sift through the forum
and i think both new and old members would appreciate it
i know i would

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Aug 2014, 11:32    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
This is all very interesting, but you may want to revisit the 1st post.
This is about a Puppy Linux entry point web site for the new-comer.
Like BK's original only a bit more 21st century. 8)

It is not for a forum consolidation page or a puppy wiki.


Oh I see. I re-read your first post, mavrothal, but erroneously thought from that and some of the posts that followed it that some alternative to puppylinux.com and puppylinux.org was being proposed. Personally, I think puppylinux.org at least is one of the better looking and easy to use Puppy sites, though I imagine it needs a bit updating to continually reflect Puppy developments, including the alternatives and so-called "lookalikes" and woof/woof-CE and so on. From your later posts, I note that you are talking from your own perspective of being part of woof-CE development team. That's not something I've been involved in, and with other projects occupying me at the moment I'll bow out of any current direct involvement in that :-) I'm interested to see how your webpage development goes though. woof-CE seems like an interesting area, and good luck with the progress of that.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2014, 09:20    Post subject:  

Barry K started puppy linux and owns the name.
He has not designated a successor.
If members of the puppy linux community
wish to present a particular project
to show what is being developed
that seems reasonable
but only Barry K can designate an "official" puppy
(and it seems edit his home page to display it).
Since Barry's retirement puppy linux
has become a diverse group of puppy inspired projects
created by the puppy linux community
as can been seen on the forum.
Any puppy linux homepage
must include all of the puppy projects
not just puppy woof-CE.
If an alternate home page is needed
the first page that comes up in a google search is
puppylinux.org.
That is the page that should be used.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2014, 09:43    Post subject:  

I repeat -
If this needs Barry to OK it then so be it and I'm sure he will not disagree as long as the page is not abused.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2014, 11:12    Post subject: home page crumbles  

The big problem about the Puppy Linux home page is that if it is done multi-user (using scripts), its CPU usage jumps given the high number of hits and the site is soon suspended by the host. This explains the static nature of the home page.

If you have specific items to add or a specific design to suggest, then please post it and I will see how to use it at puppylinux.org. Or add to github as suggested by mavrothal in the original post.

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