Fatdog64 700 alpha1

[Gobbi]

I installed through Gslapt qemu 2.1 package . I checked the dependencies shown in Gslapt - all of the listed ones were installed.
Then , after reading some documentation , from the terminal I did :
qemu-system-x86_64 -cdrom raring-3.9.9.2-SCSI.iso - I've downloaded previously the iso for testing .

In the terminal I was informed twice that a library is missing : first libnss... then libvte... . After I installed them with Gslapt , qemu started the window but it was slow during the boot like when in FD 630 I was using qemu 1.5.3 without kvm. In FD 630 I was helped bu Qemu Launcher which @mikeb provided .

I have virtualisation Enabled in BIOS on this machine ...
Could somebody help please with enabling kvm ( if qemu 2.1 supports it )

Another question: I understood - if I'm not wrong - that UML starts following initial configuration from /usr/lib64/uml/uml-init .
Is it possible , by editing it - and maybe fixing some other configuration file(s) - to be able to use a second set of mouse/keyboard and by using a second monitor attached , specially for UML - thus enabling a second virtual PC ( for light work/surfing net/testing )for another person in the house ???
Of course the physical computer should have enough resources ( CPU , RAM , GPU ) .

[neerajkolte]

Is it possible , by editing it - and maybe fixing some other configuration file(s) - to be able to use a second set of mouse/keyboard and by using a second monitor attached , specially for UML - thus enabling a second virtual PC ( for light work/surfing net/testing )for another person in the house ???
Of course the physical computer should have enough resources ( CPU , RAM , GPU ) .

Hi Gobbi,
I have replied to you on Qemu Launcher thread.
It actually points you to some of my and jamesbond's posts on Fatdog 630 thread on page number 17 and 18.

I had asked this question and Jamesbond has given me solution using Sandboxing.

I don't know if it will be useful to you, but could you please take a look.

Thanks.

- Neeraj.

[neerajkolte]

Hi everyone,
when you right click on .pet file you get an option to "convert this to new pakage format".
I have successfully converted Random Wallpaper Changer .pet to .txz, it installed well and had proper menu entry, works well too.
Then I tried to convert Threadget .pet.
As soon as I click to convert it all icons in rox window change to red triangle and no new package is created. On next boot couldn't get to gui. xwin failes to start I think. I had to use my backuped savefile. Maybe some configuration file got corrupt.
The threadget .pet only contains one script and .desktop file.
Can somebody take a look.

Thanks.

- Neeraj.

[jamesbond]

@Bindee - Lennart tried to remove it, but Linus had enough insight to keep it instead. As a happy consequences, the autocgroup code lives on until today and it is automatically enabled for Fatdog64.

@Gobbi:
1) gslapt should pull those libs automatically. I'll try it myself later whether it does.
2) To run with KVM enabled, you use this: "qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -cdrom raring-3.9.9.2-SCSI.iso"
3) RE: "to be able to use a second set of mouse/keyboard and by using a second" - what you're looking is called "multiseat". There are many ways to achieve it, with or without virtuallisation (virtualisation buys you isolation - the second "PC" can't crash the first one). The solution without virtualisation is here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 243#772243. The solution with virtualisation (using virtualbox) is here: http://blog.rahady.com/2009/10/running- ... keyboards/.

@neerajkolte: "convert this to new pakage format" has a bug , so don't use it for the moment. I have fixed it (may be it's time for alpha2) - please pass me the link to threadget, I'll try it.

[neerajkolte]

Hi jamesbond,

This is the link to Threadget.

[Gobbi]

Thank 's jamesbond

I'll try the solutions on my workstation in about a week when I'll get home .
The kvm works indeed I tried to insert before -enable-kvm but I didn' do it right , as an option , I had attached it to the initial qemu-system-x86_64 . The iso boots really fast - however I have to add options to improve resources ( CPU cores , RAM ) for the Guest system .
Noticed that in qemu 1.5.3 , if one expands the window , the aspect ratio follows the geometry , in qemu 2.0 and qemu 2.1 it doesn't . But one can always use Ctrl+Alt+F to put in fullscreen .

Thank you too , neraajkolte for trying to help

[Bindee]

@Bindee - Lennart tried to remove it, but Linus had enough insight to keep it instead. As a happy consequences, the autocgroup code lives on until today and it is automatically enabled for Fatdog64.

Thanks James

When i get a chance and some free USB space i'll test 700 Alpha with the Vblank option on both the nouveau and Nvidia drivers for ripple and tearing to see if the pipeline fix is still needed.

Hopefully like Billtoo it's now fine and was just a glitch with 631.

I know your busy with a hundred trillion things on 700 alpha but when you fix the remaster option is there any chance you could add bleachbit to Gslapt for a one click cleanup before a remaster is done.

Thanks

[jamesbond]

Noticed that in qemu 1.5.3 , if one expands the window , the aspect ratio follows the geometry , in qemu 2.0 and qemu 2.1 it doesn't.

Qemu 2.x will default to GTK interface. Pass -sdl (or -display sdl) to go back to the old sdl interface used in Qemu 1.x.

As for bleachbit - I'm not too sure that it is useful for a frugal-install based systems, but yeah, perhaps it has its uses. I'll look into it.

[Bindee]

As for bleachbit - I'm not too sure that it is useful for a frugal-install based systems, but yeah, perhaps it has its uses. I'll look into it.

http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/features

More of a one click privacy thing rather than frugal space saving as it can remove persistent flash cookies and HTML5 DOM objects to sanitize before remastering that a user may have acquired while setting up and grabbing things online.

Thanks for looking into it.

[Gobbi]

I wanted to hash a downloaded ISO file and I was looking for a way to do it in FD 700a1 . I couldn't find a utility to help me in that way...

Is there one inside Fatdog or in the repo , or I shall just wait for pet2txz to work in the near future ?

Now , gtkdialog window of file transfers , copies - it is difficult to add a useful progres bar to it ? Could anybody help with this feature ?

[jamesbond]

I wanted to hash a downloaded ISO file and I was looking for a way to do it in FD 700a1 . I couldn't find a utility to help me in that way...

Right-click and choose "Send To" then choose "phash".

Now , gtkdialog window of file transfers , copies - it is difficult to add a useful progres bar to it ? Could anybody help with this feature ?

If you're referring to the dialog you see when copying in Rox, there are better replacements in this forum, I think it is called CopyFast or something. But I have never used it myself. Or perhaps try to use other file managers - we have SpaceFM in the repo.

[neerajkolte]

Hi,
I have kept savefiles on my sda6 partition, and used savefile=ram:device:sda6 boot option to speed up booting.
Now I have set up a save folder in sda6, booting with that boot option didn't find my save folder.
When I removed it, my savefolder was found and loaded.
But it took some time to search and also I am not sure if it got loaded in ram layer.

Do savefolders have different boot options?
I searched in boot-options.htm file in the system but couldn't find anything relating to save folder. (maybe I failed to understand it).

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

- Neeraj.

[Gobbi]

jamesbond - again many thanks

-sdl option in qemu , Send to - phash and SpaceFM's progress bar are working well . I'll also look for the other solution about the progress bar .

[kirk]

neerajkolte,

Try savefile=ram:device:sda6:<path to save file> For example savefile=ram:device:sda6:/700a/fd64save

[gcmartin]

Hello @Gobbi

You will find good things in using this vehicle for your VM guests. Has good logging information for guest(s) you run, too.

Hope this help

[neerajkolte]

neerajkolte,

Try savefile=ram:device:sda6:<path to save file> For example savefile=ram:device:sda6:/700a/fd64save

Thanks @kirk, that was it. I had unnecessarily confused myself by thinking savefile and savefolder might use different options. Just needed to add path.

Thanks.

-Neeraj.

[step]

Hello everyone, today I'm starting to test alpha1!

I'm booting frugal from HDD with save dir. So far so good, though I noticed the same issue that I reported for 631 here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 779#780779; on 700 in seamonkey private mode (shift+ctrl+B) each new tab hangs for 20+ seconds when 5+ tabs are already open and the flash plugin is enabled. Work-around is to disable flash.

What is the recommended wine sfs package for alpha1? What are people using?

edit: Pressing Ctrl+F1 over Desktop displays error box "Openbox: failed to execute child process "lxpanelctl" (no such file or directory)"

edit: @jamesbond re: "Convert to New Package Format" ROX Filer entry. In a separate thread http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 021#797021 I have listed two issues with the conversion script. See if you want to use the drill in the linked thread as a test for your script, in addition to neerajkolte's Threadget pet.
Incidentally, please note that ddMediaConverter starts fine on 631 while it generates an invalid address error on 700 - that's a separate issue.

[jamesbond]

bleachbit and a few other stuff are now in the repo.

wine - earlier Jim1911 said that the latest wine from version2013 (also known as green_dome) + 32-bit sfs still works.

hanging private browsing with flash - is this "fatdog-only" problem or does it happen in other puppies/linuxes too? Anyway using flash + private browsing is a bit of an oxymoron because flash keeps your browsing history, whether or not you use private browsing ...

Ctrl-F1: known problem, fixed. It tries to run lexpanelctl but we switched to razor-panel.

Pet2txz - fixed (tested with threadget). I'm not too interested with dmMediaPlayer if the source isn't available - it could be problem with the freepascal compiler targetting an older version of libraries.

Thanks for testing.

[step]

hanging private browsing with flash - is this "fatdog-only" problem or does it happen in other puppies/linuxes too? Anyway using flash + private browsing is a bit of an oxymoron because flash keeps your browsing history, whether or not you use private browsing ...

Right, so I tested it without private browsing. It still happens, in a slightly different way. Seamonkey becomes more and more sluggish as new tabs get added until it crawls to a halt and I need to kill the process. Try by yourself on this forum page. Enable the flash plugin, then open a tab on the forum. Then middle click the "Forum Index" link to open a background tab on the forum. Keep repeating the last step... When I get to about 8 tabs my seamonkey goes to lala land. All along if you switch tabs you should see the small add banner in the upper right corner playing the same flash movie. As tabs get added the movie slows down more and more.

[Bindee]

bleachbit and a few other stuff are now in the repo.

Thanks James

Any personal opinions on Bleachbit for removing persistent cookies and logs before a remaster or didn't you have time to use the program ?