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wow

Joined: 29 Jun 2006
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Location: Peru

PostPosted: Wed 15 Nov 2006, 01:39    Post_subject:  

GuestToo wrote:
try saving the script using utf-8 encoding

i had to put this line in my dotpup script to get it to display utf-8 characters:

export OUTPUT_CHARSET="utf-8"

Some script uses mixed messages, e.g. chooselocale script, that use xmessage and Xdialog:
Character coding: ISO-8859-1

Character coding: UTF-8

Character coding: UTF-8 and gxmessages instead of xmessages


Thanks GuestToo, gxmessage is the solution. So I'll have to edit all others scripts Crying or Very sad and test if they work correctly.

I've downloaded the beta2 of puppy-2.12, and I will upload what I have till now for the 2.11 version after modifying definitively the scripts, it is still very preliminary so don't expect too much of this. Cool
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wow

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Nov 2006, 20:44    Post_subject:  

Ok, it's ready for testing. But I need to integrate the JWM Menu Translation Utility(written by MU) during the dotpup installation(without run the whole script) and try to translate the Rox Pinboard instead of overwrite it. If I have success you only will need to install the DotPup and restart X Smile . Maybe tomorrow...
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gw

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Nov 2006, 19:39    Post_subject:  

Hello,

How do you translate utilities and Wizards, and could you tell were are the corresponding files to translate in the filesystem. Do you use some tools to perform this work or do you directly translate the files in a text editor?
I have already made this work under Windows, but I don't know how to do it under Linux.
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gw

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Nov 2006, 10:15    Post_subject:  

Hello,

Problem solved. I have found the scripts in /usr/sbin and have no difficulties to edit them in Leafpad.

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wow

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Nov 2006, 08:01    Post_subject: Finally uploaded  

gw wrote:
Problem solved. I have found the scripts in /usr/sbin and have no difficulties to edit them in Leafpad.
Sorry for no answer, I'd a busy weekend.

I've finally uploaded the .sfs and a small .pup for this spanish patch for puppy-2.11, more info: http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=12901
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iwigo

Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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Location: Burgos, Spain

PostPosted: Mon 20 Nov 2006, 17:19    Post_subject:  

could you tell me what can i do?
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wow

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Nov 2006, 20:52    Post_subject:  

iwigo wrote:
could you tell me what can i do?

What can you do?
rarsa wrote:
There are several things that can be done:

1. I'd recommend only translating utilities and wizards that have been addapted to use "getttext". If the text gets translated inside the script maintenance will be a nightmare and will always be out of sync. To translate the wizards and utilities we have to coordinate closelly with Barry so we don't end up translating old versions.

2. Collect all the .mo files for known applications in a common repository. I don't think the forum is the appropriate repository.

Currently there are several repositories available:
- My recommendation would be to use the subversion repository. It is the best way to make sure we are in sync and to coordinate the work from multiple people as it tracks versions, changes, contributors, etc.

I can grant write access to the people that require it. Every body currently has read access.

- Alternativelly we could use any of the ftp sites donated by members.
The one I regularly use is the space donated by GermanPup.
MU, klhrevolutionary and some other people have also offered hosting space.

About files, tools or whatever you can upload/download files here:
Arrow http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=12629

Maybe help with the spanish section of the Wiki.

Join the Puppy Linux Documentation Project (PLDP)
Arrow http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=3456

Or test my "little"(16 MB) experiment and post comments and suggestions:

English intructions: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=12901

Spanish instructions:

1. Hacer una copia de respaldo de pup_save.3fs. 1a 1b 1c
2. Copia el sfs "UnofficialLangPack-es_211.sfs"(16 MB) en la misma carpeta que el archivo pup_save.3fs. Para puppy 2.12 renombra el .sfs a <algo>_212.sfs
3. Arranca con Puppy instala el dotpup "Unofficial-langpack-es-211.pup"(907 KB)/"Unofficial-langpack-es-212.pup"(913 KB), espera unos segundos hasta que aparezca la ventana chooselocale, elige tu país y presiona OK para reiniciar X.

Paso 1(crear la copia de respaldo) es opcional pero recomendable.
Este paquete solo funciona si tienes un archivo pup_save, no sirve si arrancas puppy en modo ram o si es la primera vez que inicias puppy. Eso es todo Cool

Descargar:
Mirror1: FileFront.com
Mirror2: servage.net

La lista completa de los cambios hechos por este paquete está en los archivos "Unofficial-langpack-es-211.txt"/"Unofficial-langpack-es-212.txt"(disponibles en los sitios de descarga). Como una breve descripción puedo decir la exploración con ROX-filer/puppyROX es como en MS Windows (doble click para abrir, simple click para seleccionar, F3 para buscar, F2 para renombrar, etc), además debo aclarar que no es algo al 100% pero ayuda un poco Wink

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iwigo

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Nov 2006, 12:31    Post_subject:  

no ai nada para puppy 2.10? podria traducir algun programa, algun asistente o algo asi? gracias
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wow

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Nov 2006, 16:50    Post_subject:  

De hecho, este parche funciona en versiones anteriores :S y además actualiza algunas cosas(incluye nuevas versiones para programas como Seamonkey, mtPaint, mp, etc. ), lo probé con mi puppy 1.09CE y funciona haciendo algunos cambios. asi que debería funcionar para la 2.10 también. Solo cambia el nombre del UnofficialLangPack_211.sfs por <nombre>_210.sfs e instala el dotpup.

Algo más, ya tengo listo el parche para la versión 2.12 de puppy(gtkdiff, ayuda mucho) solo tengo que probar que todo esté en orden y subirlo en las próximas horas.

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iwigo

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Nov 2006, 11:25    Post_subject:  

y en que carpeta esta el pup_save.3fs? es que no lo encuentro ni bien ni mal
gracias por todo
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wow

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Nov 2006, 16:55    Post_subject:  

La primera vez que reinicias o apagas puppy te pregunta si quieres guardar la configuración, en ese momento se guarda pup_save.3fs en la partición que elegiste (normalmente está en la c: de windows). Con puppy puedes ver el archivo en /mnt/home/
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The very first time that you boot puppy, he ask if you want to save, in that time pup_save.3fs is saved on any partition you have selected(commonly at C: for Windows). With puppy you can found that file in /mnt/home/


De izquierda a derecha:
1.Puppy pregunta si deseas guardar
2.Eligiendo una partición
3.Eligiendo el tamaño de pup_save.3fs
4.pup_save.3fs en C: de windows
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Left to right:
1.Puppy ask if you want to save
2.Choosing a partition
3.Choosing the size for pup_save.3fs
4.pup_save.3fs icon on Windows C: drive

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iwigo

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Nov 2006, 11:37    Post_subject:  

pero una vez tienes instalado puppy en tu ordenador desde hace por ejemplo un mes y lo estas usando con normalidad, no hay manera de poner el paquete español?
gracias
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wow

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Nov 2006, 23:10    Post_subject:  

Me disculpo por no haber explicado esto correctamente Embarassed
Es sencillo, solo copia el langpack_211.sfs a /mnt/home si lo vas a usar en puppy 2.10 cambia el "_211.sfs" por "_210.sfs"
Copiar a /mnt/home/ funciona si es una instalación común(conocida como opción 1) o si estas trabajando desde el CD y con el un archivo de almacenamiento personal(pup_save.3fs) en cualquien partición.
Aunque estaba pensando en subir un iso para gente que usa puppy sin disco duro/rígido.

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Nov 2006, 17:01    Post_subject:  

joder pues debo ser idiota pero no encuentro /mnt/home por ninguna parte
perdona mi torpeza
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Nov 2006, 18:30    Post_subject:  

iwigo wrote:
joder pues debo ser idiota pero no encuentro /mnt/home por ninguna parte
perdona mi torpeza



Hola iwigo,

El lugar donde quiere ir se puede colocar asi:

1. Toca el icono que se llama Home (casa), y haga un clic con el mouse.

2. Con el click, otra ventana abra. En la esquina izquierda de la nueva ventana, hay una flecha verde. Toca esa flecha con el mouse, y haga clic.

3. Ahora hay otra ventana con varios carpetas. Una se llama ..... mnt ..... toca esa carpeta y haga una clic con el mouse.

4. Ahora tiene otra ventana abierta.... esta vez con una carpeta que se llama .... home..... toca esa carpeta y haga una clic con el mouse.

5. Ahi esta varios carpetas y varios archivos.....uno se llama pup_save.3fs, otro se llama pup_210.sfs. Esta es el archivo que usted puede renombrar pup_211.sfs.

El "printscreen" esta para que usted puede ver, mas o menos, que quiero decir.

Perdone el mal espanol mio.

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