Tight VNC Server/Viewer (Now with GUI!)

[pakt]

Ive managed to install the vncserver and get it to autostart, however when I connect to it from my windows machine I see nothing? Just the greyish background that comes up before x has finished loading properly.

Any ideas?

This is due to a typo in the script. I sent a bugfix to rarsa serveral months ago, but I think he has forgotten to fix it.

[rarsa]

That fix has been in for a long time.

[pakt]

That fix has been in for a long time.

Ah, yes, I missed that last update. I stand corrected

[tony_rosano]

after installing hte vnc server pup . i try to run vncserver and i get
"vncserver: couldn't find "xauth" on your PATH."
can some one please help?

[tony_rosano]

i finally noticed htat tthe vnc server added itself to the start menu. i ran that and got a different error
"vncpasswd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"

this is just before i am amble to assign ita password. on another note i downloaded the libstc pup and installed. no change.
another side note. i do have the developer pup enviroment installed

[can8v]

Rarsa,
I wiped my main Puppy partition and started from scratch with a normal hd install of 202. That included re-installing this Tight VNC dot pup. I just wanted to let you know that when I installed it a few weeks ago it worked as expected, except I had the scrolling issue others have mentioned in the forum. This time when I installed I have no scrolling issues, but the menu items didn't install. I don't know if you did an update that caused this change, but I simply added the viewer to my JWM taskbar (the xpm sim link was in the correct directory), and I am totally happy with it.
This actually solves my Word Processing delima. I need advanced Word Processing features that so far only M$ Word, and Open Office Writer have been able to provide. Now I am able to login to one of the Linux test servers on campus and that runs Red Hat Enterprise Edition, and use Open Office. Open Office is far to large and slow for my laptoop, but it is extremely fast on the Universities Linux server. Even over VNC it is much faster than running it on my laptop.
Thank you soooooo much for all of your hard work.
Jason

[Nevermore]

hi all
i installed the vncserver and worked perfectly out of the box
however, i don't like the fact that the default port is 5901 and not 5900
and that i can't control the actual desktop (i want to control the desktop i am seeing)
is there any workaround for that?
another big problem is this:
ONLY 8 char password??? i am used to use longer ones..why this limitation?
Thanks

[rarsa]

hi all
i installed the vncserver and worked perfectly out of the box
however, i don't like the fact that the default port is 5901 and not 5900
and that i can't control the actual desktop (i want to control the desktop i am seeing)
is there any workaround for that?

5900 is your primary display. the VNC server opens another display and that's what it shares.

You can see the shared display on the same computer by opening a VNC client and pointing it to "localhost:1".

There is more information about that in several posts in this thread
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?p=17797#17797

another big problem is this:
ONLY 8 char password??? i am used to use longer ones..why this limitation?
Thanks

I have no clue why there is this limitation. In any event if you are worried about security I would recommend tunneling the VNC over SSH, that way you can have a strong password for ssh and keep the VNC port closed on your firewall.

[GuestToo]

the length of the password is determined by tinylogin ... see Puppy help

replace tinylogin with the full versions of the password utilites if you want

http://tinylogin.busybox.net/

[can8v]

I have always used 6-8 characters with at least one of each of the following: Uppercase Letter, lowercase letter, Numeral, and a Symbol (for example: ~HluT39& or 3kyj1#$J). Is this not considered a strong password?

[sunburnt]

rarsa; I've used TightVNC with Win. & I liked it, Win. limits it to one desktop for all users, Linux doesn't.
I've looked for a Win. VNC setup that will allocate multi desktops, one for each VNC client.
I haven't found one yet, but UltraVNC seems to come close (I'm not sure).


I'm interested in using TightVNC on Puppy for a server centric thin client setup.

Q: What power of cpu do you think the viewer requires to run acceptably (P-200...)?

Is there any suggestions you might have for the setup I've suggested?

[rarsa]

Q: What power of cpu do you think the viewer requires to run acceptably (P-200...)?

It all depends on what activities the users will be performing.

In my current job I am responsible for performance and capacity management and that is one of the core questions: How many processes can we run simultaneously on this system.

The real issue is: how frequently will the different users will be fighting for the same resource (CPU, Memory, Storage I/O)?

If they are using applications that are heavy on processor or HDD (compiling, generating reports, etc), you will need more power than with interactive applications (e.g. word processing and web surfing).

For interactive applications memory usually grows linearly. This is, if you have two users you would need twice as much memory as one user but CPU or storage I/O will almost never suffer.

For data intensive batch processes, storage I/O is usually the bottleneck. Usually the CPU will be waiting for data to be retrieved from storage.

For calculation intensive applications (games, Math or physics models) you will find that CPU and/or memory will be the bottlenecks.

So, if your users are going to be doing interactive work, calculate the amount of memory used by a single user doing normal stuff and multiply by the number of users you have, then add some percentage on top for comfort.

If they are going to be watching videos or rasterizing images or browsing web sites with lots of flash, try to estimate the concurrency and scale the CPU appropriatelly.

If you don't know how your users will be using the computer, then your guess is as good as mine.

I wish I had a simple answer, but sometimes I spend weeks using very complex tools to "estimate" the expected utilization or performance just to get a response slightly better than tossing a coin.

[rarsa]

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[ApeMan]

When I try to use VNC Viewer (TightVNC) I press F8 to get the list of commands but I can't click on any of them. If I try to click on one of the commands, or if I press any key on the keyboard, the popup instantly disappears and does not register any click from my mouse. So I cannot send any commands, and since the first command I need to send is ctrl-alt-del to logon to the host computer, I cannot use VNC at all.

What should I do now? Any suggestions?

Thanks,,

ApeMan

[rarsa]

First, I haven't seen that problem but maybe it's because for Windows XP Pro computers I use RemoteDesktop and for XP home they are not set with the clasical login screen but with the otherone (that shows all users).

If the remote computer is a Windows XP computer. Why do you use VNC instead of RemoteDesktop?

[ApeMan]

The remote computer is actually running Windows 2000, which is why I have to do Ctrl-Alt-Del to login.

I don't know anything about Remote Desktop. Should I be using it?

I think my problem has more to do with the VNC viewer program on my end not acknowledging or responding to mouse clicks. I'm using a USB keyboard/trackball combo but it has not caused any other problems in Puppy that I know of.

First, I haven't seen that problem but maybe it's because for Windows XP Pro computers I use RemoteDesktop and for XP home they are not set with the clasical login screen but with the otherone (that shows all users).

If the remote computer is a Windows XP computer. Why do you use VNC instead of RemoteDesktop?

[rarsa]

I don't know anything about Remote Desktop. Should I be using it?

Definetivelly. That is THE way to do it in Windows 2000.

Actually in Windows 2000 server you can have multiple simultaneous sessions on the same computer. This is equivalent to having multiple VNC ports open in linux.

Puppy comes with two RPD GUI clients, they are under the Internet menu.

The one titled "RemoteDesktop RPD client" has a nicer GUI.

The one titled "Rdesktop RPD client" gives you more flexibility if you know the command line options.

[ppurvis]

I am a puppy lover and a VNC addict, but for the life of me cannot get the pups to install on my system.
Error: No run action specified for files of this type (text/x-readme) - you can set a run action by choosing `Set Run Action' from the File menu, or you can just drag the file to an application.
The same problem for the viewer.
When I install other pups I have no such problem. Now I am quite sure it is my problem, but a lead would be very much appreciated!

[rarsa]

What version of Puppy are you using?

Did you upgraded from an older version or is it a clean install?

The package installs OK, so the problem may be on your side I would recommend opening another thread as it seems a bigger issue than just this package.

One thing that you can try is execute the dotpup installer manually to see if you get any errors:

1. Open a command console
2. Change directories to the directory where you downloaded the pup file
3. Execute the following command

Code: Select all

dotpuprox.sh tightvncserver-1.2.9-0.7.pup

and follow the instructions. It should install OK

If you get the following errors, don't worry those are just warnings:
mv: cannot stat `/root/.vnc/xstartup': No such file or directory
rm: cannot remove `/tmp/DotPupTmpDir': No such file or directory

If you get other errors, please include them in the bug report (open a post in the Bugs forum)

[Ted Dog]

I have become interested in using VNC to control a remote windowsXP box and another puppylinux on a laptop on the same wifi/local network.

I had to turn my best computer into a family media server running windowsXP [ DRM issues ] for a family member recovering from cancer and requiring to stay inactive for a long time to recover. I hooked it up to the monster plasma HDTV so it could be viewed from across the recovery room [ the family playroom] and got a long ranged wireless keyboard/mouse combo 30' feet, yes 30 foot range, or 10meters, that works out of the box in puppylinux thanks BK!!! I had to spend half an hour with windowsXP install media & internet connection just to get it to function correctly in windows, G_d I hate windows!!!!
Well the recovery is just about over but the whole streaming video service included in my folks NetFlix account has become a family favorite on the monster plasma TV so I have lost my machine. Each time I tried to re-aquire my "loaned" equipment I am met with resistance and consern over the lost of a new internet plaything.
But it stays unused most of the time, and physically stuck in the play/recoveryroom so I need to electronically re-aquire my best lost/loaned equipment. Since it is multi-boot windows and puppylinux I would like to setup VNCserver to run it in either OS.
Also I have a laptop with bad keyboard/and cannot stay open without support because it broke its hinge ( also dual boot ) but mostly puppylinux since I can run it in battery mode, RAM only for about 4 hours, but windows reads the defective battery indicator and complains within 5 minutes. So I would like to setup a puppy VNCserver on it to keep ware-n-tair to a low level, but also I use it lightly and would like to control my now primary but underpowered puppylinux machine from the laptop.

So I would like to use two puppylinux machines that can be used via VNC from each other. And either one to control the fastest and largest memory 'Media' server remotely.

This is new to me and have not been succesful in getting any combo to work just yet. any help would be wonderful.
Ted