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Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

#261 Post by ETP »

Hi greengeek,

It is a generous review but that comment is incorrect. A Blue Pup USB stick is totally transportable between PCs with just the network settings to possibly change. (I.e. delete existing network profile then click on eth0 or wireless to set up new connection with SNS)
I will have to point that out and alert the author to the later version. V4 might get another half star! :)
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Re: Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

#262 Post by step »

ETP wrote:Hi greengeek,

It is a generous review but that comment is incorrect. A Blue Pup USB stick is totally transportable between PCs with just the network settings to possibly change. (I.e. delete existing network profile then click on eth0 or wireless to set up new connection with SNS)
I will have to point that out and alert the author to the later version. V4 might get another half star! :)
Adding to your point, just yesterday I cloned a USB key with Blue Pup V3 to another key and plugged the duplicate key into an old notebook. It booted up perfectly until graphics mode, then dropped down to text mode with instructions to run XorgWizard. So I did and I was back running graphics mode in less than a minute. That's portability to me!
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Re: Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

#263 Post by gcmartin »

ETP wrote:... It is a generous review but that comment is incorrect. A Blue Pup USB stick is totally transportable between PCs with just the network settings to possibly change. (I.e. delete existing network profile then click on eth0 or wireless to set up new connection with SNS)...
If I can offer a suggestion, you have a premier PUP in BLUE. But the notion of portability needs some very good clarity. It can be explained in a simple short document that you can provide in a BLUE button or in a thread, here, or an HTML page which comes with the BLUE OOTB system or ...

There are several items as @Greengeek points out that could be made clear; network adapter changes is one of them. Further, one of the several important items about the network is not just the IP addr which your comments reflect, but its the underlying hostname change, the MAC address change(s), system files, etc. I had share earlier about running BarryK's FirstRUN which in included in BLUE to affect those changes for the user, simply. ON just this one item, networking, it could make you life simpler with little to no investment on your part, just guidance.

@Step offers additional useful information in the area of transportability.

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Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

#264 Post by ETP »

@gcmartin & greengeek,

I have taken the easy way out and just edited (in blue) the setup instructions in the first post of this thread which are referenced by all versions of Blue Pup.
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Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

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Please see Edit of 26th May to this post:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 758#777758
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Edit 2nd June 2014

The Chrome extension "new metroTab" has recently been updated to
version 1.0.6. A red blob on the Blue Pup logo will indicate that
an automatic update has taken place.
If you do not see that, you can update manually by visiting Chromium
settings/Tools/extensions. Ticking "Developer mode" will offer the
manual update option.
This latest version features additional cloud tiles and fixes.
For more details see:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... mbfggdmefd

Edit 14th June 2014

Thunderbird 24.6.0 is now available.
To update it please see item 7 in the second post of this thread.
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Optional Screen Saver Dotpet.

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Optional Screen Saver Dotpet.

This is a very simple, manually invoked, saver for any version of Blue Pup or indeed any Puppy running VLC.

VLC is used to play a looped trimmed down webm recording of the famous “Chess Endgame saver
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Blue Pup

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Adobe has just released a security update (11.2.202.394) for Linux Flash.

To check your current version visit:
http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

To update to this latest version run "GetFlash" off the JWM Internet sub-menu.

N/B – Pet alert has been turned on & will remain so for 48 hours.

Edit 25th July 2014

Thunderbird version 31 is now available.
To update it, please see item 7 in the second post of this thread.
N/B – Pet alert has been turned on & will remain so for 48 hours.
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Update

#268 Post by ETP »

Please note that forum member step has provided an excellent “How To
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Skype fix for all versions of Blue Pup.

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On 1st August MS killed off access to all versions of Skype for Linux prior to version 4.3.0.37.
This has been a problem for many Pups that contain earlier versions of Skype. Future Pups may require pulseaudio if a work-around for that requirement cannot be found.
Thanks to stirling work by numerous forum members a fix to keep the old versions running has been found. All versions of Blue contain skype-4.2.0.11-wheezy and installing the following pet will resurrect Skype in Blue Pup.

BlueSkypeFix-0.1.pet
It can be found here:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing

Upon launching Skype visit options and in advanced disable updates on startup.

N/B – Pet alert has been turned on & will remain so for 48 hours.
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Blue Pup V4

#270 Post by Raj »

Hi,

Though I do not possess any expertise in the technical linux arena, but as an user, may I please share my experience?

1. Recently i had to purchase a new HP with Windows 8.1 laptop. I have a respect for Microsoft for their XP & other versions, but this 8.1 dilutes it. I think Microsoft has forgot what is the main aim of customers -- having a "Wah Wah" desktop or an efficient machine?

2. In Puppy, we have a lot of things to do. Do not mind, but my thinking says instead of having new skins added, we should have stepped in the problematic areas of Puppy.

I am not criticizing you and without testing, I can not comment on your efforts, but I write this as ............

Sorry, if I hurt you anyways.

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Blue Pup V4

#271 Post by ETP »

Hi Raj,

In the original post in this thread I commented that Blue would be likely to polarise opinion knowing that the mere sight of anything resembling the Metro interface would put some people off even trying it! A few posts later I commented as follows:

My thinking behind this release is to offer the bling that is fashionable and likely to attract youngsters to try and experience the benefits of Linux. Witness their obsession with smart-phones and fondle slabs. If we fail to keep pace with the times and only major on code and functionality at the expense of form, we will stand little chance of attracting the next generation to Linux who will perceive the traditional desktop as something archaic only suited to geeks or grandfathers.

I use XP Pro on a daily basis but agree that MS have lost their way, managing to hide sometimes great features behind an extremely messy user hostile interface.
Other goals for Blue were Chromebook like speed together with ease of use. It attempts to combine the best of two OSs in a manner that is, like it or not, currently fashionable.

Please be assured that that your comments have not caused offence. Given that you have a new HP laptop with Win 8.1 it will probably have a USB3 port. If you install Blue to a USB3 stick you will be able to draw an objective comparison.

Blue has received the following reviews:
V1
http://www.centralkynews.com/amnews/new ... 7bea3.html

V3
http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/80483.html

http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Linux-Di ... 3459.shtml

http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=139276

http://www.itworld.com/open-source/4201 ... -interface

V4 (Not yet reviewed)

BTW – Blue Pup sticks are in fact movable between PCs.
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Optional Hot Screen Sides Toggle Pet for Blue Pup V4

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Optional Hot Screen Sides Toggle Pet for Blue Pup V4

In Blue Pup V4 hot screen sides are enabled by default. This feature may however not always be desirable if for example, you were using a small netbook. In addition whilst it is fine for everyday use, if you were working on something with multiple windows open and could easily inadvertently bump the mouse pointer into one of the sides it is convenient to toggle it off.

If you turn it off permanently, the easiest way of switching between the desktop and the Metro interface is the two digit toggle first introduced in V2. (Press the right hand Windows or menu key with your thumb followed by the enter key with your index finger.)

This pet creates a toggle menu item at the top of the JWM desktop menu. In addition the .desktop file needs to be dragged onto the desktop. Upon clicking the icon a screen popup will appear inviting you to restart the X-server to give effect to the change. In addition both the JWM menu icon and the desktop icon will change colour to reflect the status. (Red-Enabled Blue-Disabled). This gives an immediate visual indication of the current state as the OS boots.

Installation:

1. Install the attached pet then reboot.

2. Using Rox navigate to /usr/share/applications/HotScreenSides.desktop and drag that file onto the desktop.

3. Right click the icon and edit it to remove the text beneath and optionally assign it a hotkey. (I assigned the Scroll-Lock)

Other Issues:

Chinese Language Pets for Blue Pup V4.
Thanks go to forum member icake.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 047#786047

Flash
Adobe has released a security update (11.2.202.406) for Linux Flash.
To update to this latest version run "GetFlash" off the JWM Internet sub-menu.

Thunderbird
Version 31.1.1 is now available.
To update it, please see item 7 in the second post of this thread.

N/B – Pet alert has been turned on & will remain so for 72 hours.
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Optional Boot Toggle Pet for Blue Pup V4

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Optional Boot Toggle Pet for Blue Pup V4

This is another toggle switch pet similar to the “Optional Hot Screen Sides Toggle Pet for Blue Pup V4
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Blue Pup V5 – Released 30th Sept 2014

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Blue Pup V5 – Released 30th Sept 2014

V4 was intended to be the final release of Blue Pup but I reckoned without the ongoing changes to Skype for Linux. The Skype fix pet issued on 22nd Aug which allowed us to continue to run 4.2 has now been blocked so it is time to change tack.

This version contains the Skype 4.3.0.37 dotpet produced by watchdog that contains the apulse fix which basically fools Skype into believing that the pulseaudio server is running.

Major change since V4:

OOTB V5 will boot to the desktop rather than the Metro interface and “hot screen sides
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V5 desktop with panel raised, tickr running & hot screen sides disabled.
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V5 Metro interface with new Google Cast logo, wallpaper & “Talkyâ€￾ tile.
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#275 Post by gcmartin »

I applaud the good work you have done to keep this distro current. It brings a new use of desktop management for this community to begin approaching. I understand what you've done and why you bring this for our use. THANKS! :D

2 questions that come to mind:
  • The BASH issue found last week AND has BLUE addressed it?
  • With what you've done, has there been any additional thought given in use of touch screen devices? (Reason: TaZoC's Lighthouse is the ONLY PUP distro which has made any headway for simple touch-screen app use and menu use when tapping an open area of the screen. The large buttons of METRO are geared for easy finger work.
I use an older HP touch laptop in seminars and presentations, my finger is my pointer.

This is a very LOW priority set of questions.

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Blue Pup V5–Released 30th Sept 2014

#276 Post by ETP »

Hi gcmartin,

Thanks for the plaudit. There are a number of threads dealing with the BASH vulnerability. I will issue a tested fix by way of a service dotpet in due course.
Unless you happen to be running a web server it appears not to be critical.

For the complete range of touch/pinch/gestures, I would suggest the full blown version of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Trusty Tahr.
Attempting to include all the necessary components in a light weight Pup would be fraught with difficulty and add enormous bloat. Better to use a known working solution.

http://sourcedigit.com/8080-ubuntu-14-0 ... -features/

https://launchpad.net/canonical-multitouch
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I hate W8

#277 Post by charbaby66 »

The best thing about Linux is that it is not Windows :)

You have really blown away my kids and co-workers who prefer the new fangled gear with this little number, and I thank you for the idea of having
something that appeals to the mainstream MS scared of Linux fogeys and the young crowd. In my world, this is amazing! The kids want to use it, some of the co-workers want a copy! I want to thank you for that, I have been trying to accomplish this for years... All because of a Metro screen who'da thunk?

I have been asked to get Netflix working. So far no joy. The latest Chrome/
Chrominium 37 maybe/38 yes with latest nss 3.16 is rumored to work
without wine et al. Can I update without breaking anything? (not in PPM)

I also had trouble installing to a fresh OOTB Transcend 8g using the new
Lucid 5.28. I also got the no more room on device error (or not error) so
I fired up a broken XP, installed the tools and finally created the disk. I did
have to reboot twice before Blue 5 loaded. Runs well but volume icon left
and will not return. Used ALSA wizard to set volume. Side screen unbearable
to keep running - constantly pops up with touchpad use on this Dell 610

I am going to retry an install under Slacko (which should run the above browsers/libs ergo wineless Netflix) if I can't upgrade them here.
pfft.. I just use my tablet if I need to 'flix, it's simpler, but if Metro &NF
converts the unconvertable, I'm game!

I'll keep you posted on how the install went, and if the few issues did too..
if no joy, I can do the XP deal... but my feelings are in the first line. :)

Thanks for all the good work.

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Re: I hate W8

#278 Post by ETP »

Hi charbaby66,

Thanks for your feedback. V5 was released in a hurry to deal with the Skype issue and I was forced to put some other changes on hold. Specifically I had been attempting to get both “O/K Google
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Bash Security fix for all versions of Blue Pup & QT 6.0.5

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Bash Security fix for all versions of Blue Pup.

A dotpet (bash-4.1.16.pet) is now available here:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing

Before applying this patch it is recommended that you use Snapshot Manager to create a snapshot. It can be found at the bottom of the JWM Filesystem sub-menu. (This utility was a stroke of genius by BARRYK and is equivalent to the Windows restore point tool)

Having installed the pet the currently patched vulnerabilities show as fixed:

Code: Select all

GNU bash, version 4.1.16(1)-release (i686-pc-linux-gnu)
Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>

This is free software; you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Test Again 04th Oct 2014
# curl --insecure https://shellshocker.net/shellshock_test.sh | bash
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100  2533  100  2533    0     0   9997      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 10132
CVE-2014-6271 (original shellshock): not vulnerable
CVE-2014-6277 (segfault): not vulnerable
CVE-2014-6278 (Florian's patch): not vulnerable
CVE-2014-7169 (taviso bug): not vulnerable
CVE-2014-7186 (redir_stack bug): not vulnerable
CVE-2014-7187 (nested loops off by one): not vulnerable
CVE-2014-//// (exploit 3 on http://shellshocker.net/): not vulnerable
# 
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#280 Post by step »

Thank you, ETP, for V5 and the bash update.
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