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Re: keep mouse pointer local

#221 Post by ETP »

step wrote:Hi ETP,

when I move my mouse pointer to hit the right screen edge and so raise the button panel, the pointer reappears at the top left corner of the button panel. Effectively the pointer warps from the extreme right of the screen to the far left. This spatial dislocation annoys and confounds me. Most of the times, as I'm mentally in the process of retracting from the right edge by dragging the pointer to the left I find the warped pointer hitting the left edge and so raising chrome, which ins't what I want to do. Does it happen to you too?
Can you do something to your scripts to avoid the warping effect? Ideally the mouse pointer should stay in the same position where I drag it, or at least in proximity, regardless of the screen edge. Thank you for your consideration.
Hi step,

That mouse movement was a deliberate feature for use with the right hand windows key but I can see how it could be annoying when using the “hot sides
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Re: NEW OPTIONAL PET

#222 Post by gcmartin »

ETP wrote:Good morning step,

I don’t understand what you are getting at here. The alert has been turned on for testing purposes since I issued it on 27th April. I will be turning it off in 12 hours time.

What that means is that if you have installed the dotpet anytime after 27th April an audible and visual alert should be triggered at every subsequent boot-up or reboot. It will also be seen and heard if you simply re-start X. Upgrading T’Bird will not stop the alert.

Triggering it by re-starting X is just a quicker way of testing it rather than re-booting having installed the dotpet. If you do test it by re-starting X it should trigger after the Metro live tiles appear.
When exactly did you install the pet?
OK, sorry for the delay @ETP.

I did install the PET as instructed, and nothing happened. Then I restarted the X desktop and still, nothing happened. This PC has not been rebooted in weeks.

Maybe I should reboot to see if the available service announcement occurs. Maybe it should behave like my dogs do...anything new, Bark-bark!

I return when I reboot the system.

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NEW OPTIONAL PET

#223 Post by ETP »

@ gcmartin & step,

In order to get to the cause of the missing alert issue can you please both perform the following test?

1. Open up the “Startup
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Blue Pup V1, V2 & V3 (sp2-Released 03rd May 2014)

#224 Post by Billtoo »

I haven't used Bluepup for a couple of weeks but today I moved my 16gb
flash drive install to an hp desktop.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue 6 May 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 Linux 3.12.6 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.0
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 10.0.1

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Core 0: @1600 1: @1600 2: @1600 3: @1600 MHz

I added arandr to setup for 2 monitors and also added xbmc 12.3 from
PPM.
I added petalert-mk1.pet and restarted X, it notified me with a visual
that there was a service pack available, also an audio alert spoke to
me.
After downloading and installing the bluepup-sp2 pet I rebooted.
Seems to be working well.
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Re: NEW OPTIONAL PET

#225 Post by step »

ETP wrote: 5. Post the contents of the terminal window.

Code: Select all

# sh popupmk1
--2014-05-07 05:42:06--  https://googledrive.com/host/0B_iVVJCd9q09dGo5V2ZZOV90UWs
Resolving googledrive.com (googledrive.com)... 173.194.116.11, 173.194.116.10, 173.194.116.12, ...
Connecting to googledrive.com (googledrive.com)|173.194.116.11|:443... connected.
WARNING: cannot verify googledrive.com's certificate, issued by ‘/C=US/O=Google Inc/CN=Google Internet Authority G2’:
  Unable to locally verify the issuer's authority.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 7 [text/plain]
Saving to: ‘/root/Startup/0B_iVVJCd9q09dGo5V2ZZOV90UWs’

100%[======================================>] 7           --.-K/s   in 0s      

2014-05-07 05:42:06 (129 KB/s) - ‘/root/Startup/0B_iVVJCd9q09dGo5V2ZZOV90UWs’ saved [7/7]

Playing WAVE '/root/noob/files/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
# EXIT="Exit on timeout"
I did see the temp file and the blue popup window.
BTW Are you still not seeing or hearing any alert at boot time?
If not, is your audio working & do you have any other apps or utilities set to run automatically?
I'm still not seeing or hearing alerts at boot time. My audio is working. I do not have any other apps set to run automatically - other than the stock provided with Blue pup.

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Re: keep mouse pointer local

#226 Post by step »

ETP wrote: B: Install attached dotpet to revert mouse to impulse drive.
Thank you. It works well. I much prefer mouse impulse drive, even when right+win is pressed.
p.s. sent you a PM.

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petalert-mk1.pet released 27/04/14

#227 Post by ETP »

Hi step,

Thanks for posting the output from your terminal. It eliminates a number of possibilities and indicates that the script is working correctly and there are no internet issues.
I'm still not seeing or hearing alerts at boot time.
This seems to be a timing issue which I will return to. Let us first try to sort out the audio mute/volume issue.

AUDIO PROBLEM (The sound of silence?)

1. Open the folder /root/noob/files then left click on the file "alert.wav". It should open and play in a VLC window.
If you hear nothing do not change the level in VLC which should show 100%. Instead right click on the speaker icon in the tray
and then left click on the "Full Window" item. Adjust the levels of the PCM & Master bars playing the alert.wav again
between adjustments until the level is satisfactory.

2. Leaving the Retrovol window open, open a terminal window within the /noob/files directory then type aplay alert.wav
Repeat this a few times whilst adjusting the levels in the Retrovol window.
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BOOT PROBLEM (No sound or popup)

My best guess at present is that this is a timing issue. Try editing the popupmk1 script in the Startup folder.
Begin by increasing the sleep from 14 seconds to 60 seconds. Save the file then re-boot. If that does the trick reduce
it to 30 then re-boot again. Settle for the lowest value that gives consistent results.
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Re: petalert-mk1.pet released 27/04/14

#228 Post by step »

ETP wrote: 1. Open the folder /root/noob/files then left click on the file "alert.wav". It should open and play in a VLC window.

2. Leaving the Retrovol window open, open a terminal window within the /noob/files directory then type aplay alert.wav

BOOT PROBLEM (No sound or popup)

Begin by increasing the sleep from 14 seconds to 60 seconds....
OK, I did 1 and 2, alert.wav plays at an audible volume level. I increased the sleep to 60. I will come back after next reboot. Thank you.

gcmartin

#229 Post by gcmartin »

Hello @ETP

Did as you prescribed without rebooting. I now get the experience you allude to; both audio and video. Thanks. I have not rebooted this distro is weeks.

One options that I had referred you to, earlier, was the manner in which LH64 makes service available, where it is a selectable item (clickable) for installation. I thought that I have remembered that @BarryK had done similar.

But, considering how members could find that as an unwelcomed approach, this manner is acceptable. Maybe a pointer in the popup, in the future, could be added so that unfamiliar members would know where on the forum to look. Just tossing out an idea.

"code BLUE." ... nice

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Re: petalert-mk1.pet released 27/04/14

#230 Post by step »

@ETP, a 60 second sleep fixed this issue. I didn't even try a shorter sleep as there is no point in hurrying to receive an update alert.
Fyi, when my PC boots it takes about 20-25 seconds overall to get an IP address for eth0 first and then for wlan0. I don't know how typical those timings are - they seem reasonable to me.

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#231 Post by step »

gcmartin wrote:Maybe a pointer in the popup, in the future, could be added so that unfamiliar members would know where on the forum to look. Just tossing out an idea.
+1

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petalert-mk1.pet released 27/04/14

#232 Post by ETP »

@ gcmartin & step,

Thanks for your feedback. In Blue Pup V4 (Final?) I will increase the delay in that script and also adjust the volume of the wave file to -1db as I think that I originally played it too safe.
You both concur that a better pointer to new pets & service packs is needed particularly for newbies. I will therefore amend the existing tile which points to the Puppy Forum so that it points instead to the Blue Pup thread. In addition I will also add another bookmark within Chromium.
Thanks for your input
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single menu to boot all puppies and Blue Pup Quirky Tahr!

#233 Post by step »

Finally I figured out how to boot all my frugal puppies and Blue Pup QT from a single boot menu! The gist of it is to chainload syslinux from grub4dos.

A bit more detail
I start with a fat grub4dos menu for all my frugals, and a slim syslinux menu for Blue Pup Quirky Tahr, but how to merge the two menus together?
Additional challenges; Blue Pup boots from a USB key and resides on an SSD while the frugals live in an ATAPI HDD caddy that replaced the DVD drive of my notebook when the SDD came in.
Moreover, no bootloader understands f2fs (Blue Pup QT's) partitions yet.
For reference, my SSD/USB installation process is described here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/posting.php?p=770189 and here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/posting.php?p=770080.
To chainload grub and syslinux I followed this tutorial http://www.rmprepusb.com/tutorials/chainload-syslinux and used the RMPrepUSB tool in Windows to install syslinux and grub4dos on a USB key.
Then I simply copied my menu.lst and syslinux.cfg files to the USB key, and added an entry to menu.lst (method 1 of the tutorial).
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Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

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Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

This is the final release of Blue. Its main new feature is that it is suitable for any type of BIOS so eliminating the need for a separate version (V3) to deal with awkward ones. There is no requirement to edit syslinux.cfg.
It incorporates all previous service packs and dotpets. “Hot screen sides
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Blue Pup V4

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Reserved for Additional info, tips & FAQ:

1. An alternate wallpaper that I use with my own copy of Blue V4 is now available in the same folder as the download. Note also the placement of a few extra desktop icons, plus Tickr running across the screen. A matching darker theme is adopted in the Metro interface.
(Available here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 758#777758)
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V3 to V4 upgrade path?

#236 Post by step »

How can I upgrade from a plain V3 to the latest V4 without reinstalling everything?
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Re: V3 to V4 upgrade path?

#237 Post by ETP »

step wrote:How can I upgrade from a plain V3 to the latest V4 without reinstalling everything?
Hi step,
IIRC you have already applied all the pets & service packs with the exception of petalert-mk2.pet which is academic as you have edited mk1 to suit your hardware.

If you also desire the additional taskbar stuff an install of V4 to another stick would be the best option.

If you want a different look, it is just a matter of installing a wallpaper of your choice in /usr/share/backgrounds and then selecting it via the menu. Additional items on the desktop are created by dragging them onto it from the following locations:
/usr/local/bin
/usr/share/applications
/usr/local/apps
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#238 Post by gcmartin »

Desktop look good and system appears stable. But, in this version, it opens browser in a full-screen and trying to use right slider is a bear. I wasn't sure if this means that this PET, namely http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 604#771604, is included built-in or is to be added. In any event, I had a good-ole-time trying to wrestle this current behavior without resorted to your PET above.
Question Something else to consider
An idea, I believe I may have presented before, is to, on initial use, bounce the user to the FIRSTRUN utility in Menu>Setup. It would make it so easy for newbies to begin a pleasant experience if they were not from the UK. Again, this is an idea for you to consider if you feel it is beneficial.

Thanks @ETP

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Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

#239 Post by ETP »

Hi gcmartin,

Blue V4 incorporates ALL previous service packs and dotpets including optional ones. “Hot screen sides
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#240 Post by 8-bit »

Hello again!
I am back after wiping out version 3 from my 8gig flash drive and installing version 4.
Two things I noticed fairly quick is one, although the volume icon showed up initially on the task bar with an X through it, it then disappeared completely.
And number two, was that the network did not set up a connection through my modem to the internet.
I ran the Connect to Internet Wizard to get that set up.
Before, it had connected automatically.
So someone new to Blue might be lost on what to do.
I still have to check out the sound and see what it will take to get the volume icon to display and sound to work.
Other than that, I am posting this from Blue after an uneventful boot of it using my PCs boot selection menu.

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