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rokytnji
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 2287
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Posted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 20:00 Post subject:
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Not sure what I am missing.
I installed Unetbootin 585 from Carolina 1.2, (Frugal install), puppy package manager.
Got a missing pzip-full message first time opening unetbootin so I went ahead and installed p7zip-cli since that was what was available.
Unetbootin opens OK with no error. Plug in usb. It shows as unmounted on desktop. I grabbed my MX-14 iso from my backup internal /dev/sdb OK.
I go to USB to select drive and nothing shows though /dev/sde shows OK on the Desktop. I tried mounting/opening it and restarted Unetbootin. Same problem.
I even reformatted in gparted again as Fat32 to be sure.
Ejected USB. Unplugged and replugged it in. Tested numerous times even in different usb ports to be sure. It still would not give me a drive selection in Unetbootin. I ended up making the Bootable USB on my AntiX 11 M/C shop Desktop Computer instead. Any extra info/details needed. Just let me know. Just posting the info.
USB drive is a SanDisk 2gig Cruzer that I removed U3 Firmware from long ago to make it a regular usb drive.
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Geoffrey

Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 2346 Location: Queensland
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Posted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 23:09 Post subject:
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@rokytnji,
I can't get it to work either, I was using the precompiled binaries, I downloaded the latest source code and compiled it, but still no luck, it seems it's not compatible with some pups, but I'm sure it did work at one point, or in my mad rush to add packages to the repo neglected to test it, sorry.
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proebler
Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 130 Location: TAS
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Posted: Wed 02 Apr 2014, 07:08 Post subject:
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Thanks for the replies to my earlier post.
Update on my experience with nomacs:
It does not work for me on a P4 computer and on Pentium M laptops.
It does work on a Pentium Core2 machine.
nomacs-1.6.4 (installed from pet) now works on the Core2 after putting in a symlink libraw.so.5 pointing to libraw.so.2.04.
nomacs-1.6.2 (which comes with Carolina-1.2) works 'out-of-the-box' on the Core2.
Trying to run nomacs-1.6.4 from terminal on the Pentium M gives "Illegal Instruction" error.
I have restored rc.shutdown to its original state.
PupsaveConfig is working OK and I do get the option to save/not-save at shutdown/reboot.
Power down works, but on the Pentium M laptop, 'Restarting system' still hangs and I have to use the power button.
Both these functions do work on the Core2 machine.
So both my observations seem to be hardware related.
Therefore my new question:
Is Carolina-1.2 intended for relatively recent hardware only?
cheers
proebler
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Geoffrey

Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 2346 Location: Queensland
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Posted: Wed 02 Apr 2014, 08:26 Post subject:
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proebler wrote: | Thanks for the replies to my earlier post.
Update on my experience with nomacs:
It does not work for me on a P4 computer and on Pentium M laptops.
It does work on a Pentium Core2 machine.
nomacs-1.6.4 (installed from pet) now works on the Core2 after putting in a symlink libraw.so.5 pointing to libraw.so.2.04.
nomacs-1.6.2 (which comes with Carolina-1.2) works 'out-of-the-box' on the Core2.
Trying to run nomacs-1.6.4 from terminal on the Pentium M gives "Illegal Instruction" error.
I have restored rc.shutdown to its original state.
PupsaveConfig is working OK and I do get the option to save/not-save at shutdown/reboot.
Power down works, but on the Pentium M laptop, 'Restarting system' still hangs and I have to use the power button.
Both these functions do work on the Core2 machine.
So both my observations seem to be hardware related.
Therefore my new question:
Is Carolina-1.2 intended for relatively recent hardware only?
cheers
proebler |
Carolina is based on Saluki started around Nov 2011
" Saluki is a woof-build based on Racy 5.2 with Xfce. The suggested target hardware is computers less than 5 years old. It should run reasonably fast on older machines and netbooks, but Xfce does need a bit more ram and cpu than the standard ROX/Jwm puppy - probably at least 512MB of ram and 1GHz CPU for decent performance. "
Carolina as grown in complexity since then with some newer software mainly QT, as a comparison to what machines you are running I run Carolina on a 2007 vintage Quote: | Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
Memory : 4146MB |
you will still have a problem with the non-PAE version too, for the Pentium M it may be better to try Carolite-1.1 which is a stripped back version that you can add to from the repo.
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proebler
Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 130 Location: TAS
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Posted: Wed 02 Apr 2014, 18:16 Post subject:
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@ Geoffrey
thanks,
I am aware of the pae issue with the Pentium M.
I have plenty of RAM and processor speed to run other Puppies, so it is no problem, just wanted to see what Carolina is like.
I posted my observations so that perhaps it may help others.
I am also trying x-precise-2.3.
What is the targeted hardware for that ?
I may post re the PupsaveConfig on x-precise-2.3, because it does not seem to be doing what it should.
thanks again,
proebler
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gcmartin
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 6730 Location: Earth
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Posted: Thu 03 Apr 2014, 01:11 Post subject:
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Hi @Geoffrey and @Proebler. I am a "M" owner, as well, as can be seen below. My "M" is a PAE model, as shown below. This system has been used in the past when testing all Carolina versions.
Some members have a non-PAE model. But members also have the PAE models too.
This is provided to indicate that not all "M" models were the same in functionality.
Hope this helps
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rg66

Joined: 23 Jul 2012 Posts: 1129 Location: Vancouver, BC Canada / Entebbe, Uganda Africa!?!
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Posted: Thu 03 Apr 2014, 02:03 Post subject:
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I also have a Pentium M 1.5Ghz and although it is PAE enabled, apparently the flag is not set. Lina seems to work OK but X-precise won't shutdown properly and acpitool doesn't work with any puppy. I think that's a BIOS issue with the Acer Travelmate 4500.
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don570

Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 4989 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Thu 03 Apr 2014, 17:02 Post subject:
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Uextract 3 now works well in Carolina. It's very useful for extraction.
If rar and peazip is installed it will extract those archives as well.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87864
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proebler
Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 130 Location: TAS
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Posted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 06:32 Post subject:
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Perhaps I can now answer the question of my previous post myself.
Carolina-1.2 non-pae does not seem suitable for some 'older' hardware, at least not for what is available to me.
This is the summary of my testing the use of nomacs picture viewer and of reboot & shutdown with save/no-save option.
Pentium Core2: everything working.
Pentium M with pae support (Compaq nc6220): nomacs and reboot not working, shutdown working.
Pentium M without pae support (Compaq nc8000): Carolina boots, but no mouse or track pad function> no menu access, nothing working.
Pentium P4: nomacs not working, reboot & shutdown working.
cheers
proebler
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Marv

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 1016 Location: SW Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 10:20 Post subject:
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proebler wrote: | Perhaps I can now answer the question of my previous post myself.
Carolina-1.2 non-pae does not seem suitable for some 'older' hardware, at least not for what is available to me.
This is the summary of my testing the use of nomacs picture viewer and of reboot & shutdown with save/no-save option.
Pentium Core2: everything working.
Pentium M with pae support (Compaq nc6220): nomacs and reboot not working, shutdown working.
Pentium M without pae support (Compaq nc8000): Carolina boots, but no mouse or track pad function> no menu access, nothing working.
Pentium P4: nomacs not working, reboot & shutdown working.
cheers
proebler |
Must be non-cpu hardware dependent. I run carolina 1.2, carolite 1.2 (non-PAE versions) and their predecessors on the following laptops basically with no hardware problems at all:
Fujitsu S6520 core 2 duo iwlwifi (5300) i915 video
Fujitsu S6120 and S6210 Pentium M (no PAE flag) ipw2200 intel integrated video
Dell D610 Pentium M (PAE flag) ipw2200 intel integrated video
In all cases flsynclient is used to configure the touchpad (ALPS and Synaptics) but it works pretty well on first boot, just not my preferences in click and scroll. The full boat Carolina is a bit 'laggy' on the Pentium Ms but runs and a LibreOffice SFS is the 'office' solution on Carolite. Can't speak to nomacs, I use viewnior/mtpaint as needed and only do mundane resizing etc. with images.
Just my experience...
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bibzpu
Joined: 08 Jul 2011 Posts: 14
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Posted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 16:55 Post subject:
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Below is my post at the Beginners Help forum:
My only computer for the time being is an Acer C720 chromebook running xubuntu in developer mode
My favorite puppy version (Carolina namely) boots up and runs fine off of a usb flash drive except for two important issues.
No sound. No touchpad (a usb-connected mouse works though).
I have very little programming experience.
If anyone can even point in the direction of how to modify puppy to have sound and track movement on a recent chromebook, please post.
This puppyite misses the sound of the bark and the touch of the tail.
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elroy

Joined: 02 Feb 2012 Posts: 380
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Posted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 20:08 Post subject:
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bibzpu wrote: | No sound. No touchpad (a usb-connected mouse works though). |
For sound, open a terminal window and enter 'alsamixer' (without the single-quotes). Arrow right or left to move between the desired categories; arrow up or down to increase/decrease volume. Your volume may be muted by default. If the volume is muted (for example on the 'Master' track) no audio will be heard. Simply arrow over until it's highlighted, and then arrow-up to un-mute and increase the master volume. If your system uses jack or another type of sound system, you may want to referrer to the Saluki forum. When you're finished, click the 'x' on the upper right of the window to close and save your changes.
As far as the mouse touch-pad goes, ensure that the xf86-input-synaptics-1.5.0-i486.pet is installed (I'm currently using lina-lite-005, and it is included by default, and I'd bet a weeks wages that is also the case with Carolina-1.2, too). You can do this by opening the Puppy Package Manager (make sure you're connected to the internet). When the Package Manager fires up, enter xf86-input-synaptics into the search box, and click the button 'Find Pets'. From there click install, then download, and if you get warning messages to the effect that it'll be overwritten, then it's already installed; at that point you can cancel-out.
Once it's installed (xf86-input-synaptics-1.5.0-i486.pet), or rather, once that you've verified that it's installed, go to the main-menu button (the 'Windows' button), then 'Control Panel', then 'Desktop' and select 'Mouse and Touchpad'. Make sure that 'Device' is set to 'Synaptics Mouse'. Select the 'Touchpad' tab and ensure that 'Tap touchpad to click' is checked.
Edit: If you still don't have success, you may want to peruse the Saluki forum; many of these issues were solved previously with Saluki,. And being that Carolina is a Saluki derivative, you may find success with those methods.
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Geoffrey

Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 2346 Location: Queensland
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Posted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 20:34 Post subject:
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@elroy
Hi stranger hows it going, long time no hear, good to see your still lurking around
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elroy

Joined: 02 Feb 2012 Posts: 380
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Posted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 20:56 Post subject:
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Geoffrey wrote: | @elroy
Hi stranger hows it going, long time no hear, good to see your still lurking around  |
Going good...you need to pm me your pidgin account (and rg66's, too) to make contact. I somehow lost that..
Yeah, I'm still lurking...puppy is the bomb.
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Geoffrey

Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 2346 Location: Queensland
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Posted: Fri 04 Apr 2014, 21:05 Post subject:
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elroy wrote: | Geoffrey wrote: | @elroy
Hi stranger hows it going, long time no hear, good to see your still lurking around  |
Going good...you need to pm me your pidgin account (and rg66's, too) to make contact. I somehow lost that..
Yeah, I'm still lurking...puppy is the bomb. |
Yeah, yahoo stopped working in pidgin, using Google talk now, I'll send you my info.
Cheers.
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