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My report on Quirky 6.0
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eowens2

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Mar 2014, 22:18    Post subject:  

Hey Rodney Byne,

I replied to your message about openvpn, but I hit "new topic" instead of "post reply"! The message went here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=92859

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don570


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Mar 2014, 13:02    Post subject:  

to Country Bumkin :

Make sure you install from precise Puppy 5.7.1 i.e. run the script
while in Precise Puppy 5.7.1

You will experience strange problems if you do not.
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Country Bumkin

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Mar 2014, 17:49    Post subject:  

To don570..

The use of a Puppy distro appears to be necessary, despite the release notes offering this advice..
Quote:
and be running a very recent Linux distribution (that understands f2fs

and
Quote:
for example with Ubuntu you might need to install 'mtools', 'syslinux' and 'f2fs-tools' -- if the latter is not in the repo, then the distro is too old!)


from http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/x86/tahr-6.0.5/release-Quirky-6.x.htm

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don570


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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 20:12    Post subject:  

Country Bumkin wrote:
and be running a very recent Linux distribution


That's odd Sad

In a previous install note Barry clearly recommended
Precise 5.7.1. He seems to have changed the wording
in his install notes.
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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 15:47    Post subject:  

Yes, 5.7.1 was the clearly the recommended choice. I guess as newer puppies came out, he changed the wording. I've been using the 5.7.1 for f2fs without any noticeable issues.

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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 18:21    Post subject: Quirky-Tahr or BlutPUP USB stick creation  

Request for understanding
I must ask this question for some understanding. If the process for 8GB stick creation merely uses "xz" utility for getting to the bootable full-install on USB, WHY do I need to have any system that has "f2fs"? Reason: "xz" decompression step uses "dd" comannd-type approach to stream the datablocks needed to the USB.-in fact, the process to create the full-install doesn't care what's on the USB stick when it is run. "xz" is going to over-write whatever exist in the first 8GB on that USB.
Code:
xz --decompress --stdout quirky-6.1-8gb.img.xz > /dev/sdb
Currently, I trying to understand the need for Precise 5.7.1 to get to the running full-install on the USB stick using "xz".

Help if you can shed some light on this.

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anikin

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 19:55    Post subject:  

I think, you started the process of understanding from the wrong end - xz, that is.
Read this first:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SquashFS
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 21:36    Post subject:  

Can I suggest reading Barry's Blog and search by content for f2fs?

I hope this helps.

http://bkhome.org/news/


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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 23:18    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0  

I did 3 Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 installs today, 1 16gb flashdrive, 1 16gb
SDHC card, and 1 8gb flashdrive.
The 16gb installs used the install to drive script and the 8gb used the
# xz --decompress --stdout quirky-6.0.5-8gb.img.xz > /dev/sdX
# sync
method.
All 3 work great.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue 1 Apr 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 Linux 3.12.6 i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
oem: Intel(r)Q33/Q35/G33 Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r)Q33/Q35/G33 Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.15.0
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33 x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 10.0.1

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 MHz

I wonder if there will be a new release soon?
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PostPosted: Mon 28 Apr 2014, 14:40    Post subject: Re: Quirky-Tahr or BlutPUP USB stick creation  

@gcmartin
Using information from:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/x86/tahr-6.0.5/release-Quirky-6.x.htm
gcmartin wrote:
Request for understanding
I must ask this question for some understanding. If the process for 8GB stick creation merely uses "xz" utility for getting to the bootable full-install on USB,

In this case you are using "Method D: 8GB image"
Quote:

WHY do I need to have any system that has "f2fs"?

You don't when installing by "Method D"
Quote:

Reason: "xz" decompression step uses "dd" comannd-type approach to stream the datablocks needed to the USB.-in fact, the process to create the full-install doesn't care what's on the USB stick when it is run. "xz" is going to over-write whatever exist in the first 8GB on that USB.
Code:
xz --decompress --stdout quirky-6.1-8gb.img.xz > /dev/sdb


This command unsquashes the image

"quirky-6.1-8gb.img"

before writing it to the flash-drive. It contains a partition with f2fs-filesystem.
Quote:
Currently, I trying to understand the need for Precise 5.7.1

... or any distribution having the 'f2fs-tools'.

You only need 'f2fs-tools', when using

"Method A: install to any size Flash drive"

where 'mkfs.f2fs' is needed to make a partition with f2fs-filesystem. Please look into the install-script for "Method A":

'install-quirky-to-drive.sh'
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PostPosted: Tue 29 Apr 2014, 06:07    Post subject:  

Thanks @Cinclus_Cinclus. You re-enforce the case I wrote about. The post describing those cases could be worded a little more accurately. But, I think, by now, most have gotten the message we share with better clarity.

What I had found is that any system that has "xz" support correctly writes the USB for booting in this distro's case. There was no requirement for f2fs as it only confused things in understanding where that specific case/command was used to generate the USB.

Thanks again for pointing this out.

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PostPosted: Thu 01 May 2014, 13:36    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0  

Running Quirky 6.0.5 from a 32gb usb 3.0 flash drive, pc is a compaq
Presario S6700NX desktop pc.
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky Tahr, version 6.0.5
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (rev 01)
Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] (Secondary) (rev 01)
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Modules requested to not be loaded: glx
Drivers requested to be loaded: modesetting
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): modesetting
Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb kbd mouse shadow
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory 1553MB (269MB used)

This is an older install that was moved to this pc, updated to 6.0.5,
updated PPM and added Firefox 29.0,libxrandr2_1.4.2-1 and
arandr_0.1.7.1-1

It's working well.
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 04 May 2014, 14:25    Post subject: My report on Quirky 6.0  

I moved my 32gb usb 3.0 flash drive from the compaq desktop to a
gateway desktop pc in order to use the proprietary nvidia driver.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 4 May 2014 on Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 Linux 3.12.6 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.15.0
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1204x343 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 331.67

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Core 0: @1600 1: @1600 2: @1600 3: @1600 4: @1600 5: @1600 6: @1600 7: @1600 MHz

Added xbmc 12.3 from PPM.
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PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2014, 02:36    Post subject:  

just moved a flash drive install to a different machine. quirky tahr 6.5 (four?) connected, booted, did everything well in its new location. new machine had what i thought were hard drive issues, but it's grinding and grumbling with it removed so i guess it's a fan issue or some other moving part...think that's the last remaining one though. anyway, i remember this being a question at some earlier time and, yes, you can move a usb installation of quirky tahr from computer to computer. (in this case, a dell and an asus netbook) and have it go smoothly. all my autostart/automount stuff went correctly, it synced with drop box after having been on a shelf for a couple of weeks...

very nice.
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step

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PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2014, 07:50    Post subject:  

Puppus Dogfellow wrote:
just moved a flash drive install to a different machine. ... it [went] smoothly...
very nice.
I agree, moving a flash drive install from PC to PC goes smoothly with QT 6.0.5. It's one of the reasons I like it; using the same configuration on all PCs. I moved the same usb key from/to a dell notebook, two acer notebooks, two hp notebooks, a samsung netbook and even a couple of old desktops. Had zero issues so far.
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