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Installed applications don't show-up in menus.
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MrAccident

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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 18:00    Post subject:  Installed applications don't show-up in menus.
Subject description: Slacko 5.7.0
 

Hi.
There were quite a few applications I installed that didn't show-up in any menu, or the "Menu Manager".
The installation process went fine; "Package Manager" says that it is already installed; and I can find their files with Pfind.
Also CatFish shows in "Utility" menu; but nothing happens when I click on it.
I also tried to launch with Terminal.
Latest application was Jove, a text editor. Maybe someone can install it to see if it works; it's just 500k.
Or maybe there's a file I can open to launch the application. In Windows - If I couldn't locate the launcher - I would find the EXE file and open it.
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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 18:08    Post subject:  

The menu entries are in /usr/share/applications (.desktop Files).

The menu categories definition is in /etc/xdg/menus/hierarchy.

Sometimes it's needed to fix entry: Categories of a .desktop file.

If a program won't run from menu, open its .desktop file and enter the command from entry: Exec= into a terminal program. There maybe some hints about missing libs etc.

If you want someone to test the programs, you have downloaded, a Link or even a hint, where to find it, would be nice. Nobody want to do a big search on the web for the applications you want someone to doing testings on.

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MrAccident

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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 20:27    Post subject:  

Thanks RSH; interesting information.
I found the program "Jove" in "Package Manager"; that's why I didn't think of explaining where I got it from.
It doesn't have a .desktop file. Maybe I can create one for it?

About "Catfish" - it's "Exec" is "catfish-home". In terminal it says "/usr/bin/catfish: line 12: python: command not found".
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Semme

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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 20:37    Post subject:  

Python's in.. dare I say.. the Rolling Eyes devx. Find SFS mngr in your menus.

Makes sense if you plan on running Pup as an everyday desktop.
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MrAccident

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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 21:09    Post subject:  

OK so I should download Devx 5.7.0?
Right now I can't download it; no connection to the site or something. Do you think it's a problem on the site; should I try again later?
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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 21:12    Post subject:  

Me thinks that's a BUG. Are you PAE or non-PAE? If slacko-5.7.0-PAE.iso, then this one.
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MrAccident

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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 22:30    Post subject:  

Thanks Semme. It worked for Catfish. It's definitely better than Pfind; but not close to Everything Search.

The original problem of the post still exists.

When I write "jove" in Terminal - it says "You can't run JOVE on a xterm terminal: type unknown".
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PostPosted: Mon 31 Mar 2014, 23:50    Post subject:  

Something you need to understand about Puppy Package Manager in Slacko 5.7
It is able to access Slackware repositories and download program packages from them, however not all of them may work in Slacko. Some of them are just too specific to Slackware.

Jove seems to be one of them.
Even if Jove's readme file says it should work in xterm, for some reason it does not like the one in Slacko.

Any packages in the puppy-slacko14 repository will work in Slacko because they were compiled for Slacko.

As for menu entries, it is mostly up to the person that made the program package to provide the needed menu support.
Some programs just do not make menu entries, when installed.

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MrAccident

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 00:00    Post subject:  

OK bigpup I understand; so if it doesn't work - maybe it just doesn't work. :-p
But do the programs that don't supply menu entries, need to have ".desktop" files? And are there other kinds of files that can open a program?
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 01:26    Post subject:  

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And are there other kinds of files that can open a program?

Usually you can run a program from the console by typing the name of the program. Most of the time the exec file is named for the program. However, Not always.
Slacko has menu->Utility->Gexec execute a command
You can exec programs with it.

Menu entry making in Puppy is an art, but this program helps a lot.
Menu Entry Maker 1.1.17
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69453

You can also run a program from a desktop icon.
In the file manager find the program exec file and drag it to the desktop.
Now have desktop icon to start program.
Right click on icon to edit name and displayed icon.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 03:15    Post subject:  

If you are using the JWM Window Manager, menu items can also be added by editing the .jwmrc file in the root with a text editor like Geany or Leafpad.

But the Menu Entry Maker is the safer choice.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 03:23    Post subject:  

OK thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 08:52    Post subject:  

Are you familiar with Jove or did you just happen to install as a random choice?
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 09:53    Post subject:  

I'm looking for a text editor with GOOD bidirectional-text support; so I'm trying all kinds. Had trouble with that in Windows too. Will keep looking.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Apr 2014, 09:58    Post subject:  

MrAccident wrote:
text editor with GOOD bidirectional-text support

Arrow yudit
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