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setecio

Joined: 01 Nov 2006
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Location: UK

PostPosted: Sat 04 Nov 2006, 06:00    Post_subject: Re: Let me build you a custom ISO  

Todd wrote:
That should be enough memory to surf the net (as long as you disable caching) or run AbiWord.


Embarassed I misread that as don't run AbiWord.

Maybe I'll try iPup first since all that is needed for the laptop is internet and Abiword. So if I wiped the drive and repartitioned it with a swap file, I assume that iPup would work OK ?

I assume it is designed for ethernet and common Epson or HP printers can easily be installed? If so it sounds perfect, no point in having the other stuff on full Puppy if it is never going to be used on the laptop.

Would it be as likely as the full puppy to work with an on board dial up modem?

Does iPup set up a cd player at all during install, not for music but for installing programs and files, or does it have no CD player ability at all ?

Thanks.
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Todd

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Nov 2006, 18:17    Post_subject: iPup and CD/DVD's  

I have had a really hard time getting onto the forum. I started at 7:00 a.m. this morning and haven't been able to get on until now (3:00 p.m.). Of course I haven't been trying continuously. Anyways. . .

iPup has the command line CD utilities that are needed to make the re-master script work and to allow reading of CD's. It just doesn't have any of the toys. Fact is, it has very few toys of any kind.

I share my computer with my children, so I have split the hard drive in two. I have Windows installed on one half and the second half is a type 82 linux partition that I use for Puppy Unleashed. When I am not testing, I typically boot from a 256 MB flash drive. I built the computer with 512 MB of RAM. Basically, what I am saying is that I know that my builds work with 256 MB flash device and 512 MB of memory, but have yet to test it on anything else. (My work computer also has 512 MB of RAM.) The funny thing is that when I boot from the flash device, the memory showing is usually just over 100 MB, no more.
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Todd

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Nov 2006, 12:40    Post_subject: iPup 1.01  

I just finished uploading iPup 1.01. This release includes Raffy's suggestions along with the removal of a few programs and libs.

Sincerely,

Todd
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setecio

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Nov 2006, 12:59    Post_subject: Re: iPup  

raffy wrote:
iPup (yes, that's small "i") is indeed a very attractive build - one that lets the user operate a client device as an Internet kiosk cum typewriter (word processing) with pages sent to a network printer.


Can iPup print to inkjets via USB or is it only for printing to network printers ?
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Todd

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Nov 2006, 13:05    Post_subject: USB printing  

You are supposed to be able to, but I never have been able to get it to work. However, I have CUPS (Common Unix Printing System) in my archive which works wonderfully. (See forum thread http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=11294 )

Todd
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raffy

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Nov 2006, 17:03    Post_subject: Xpdq  

The default printer service in Puppy works easily as it has a wizard. The default printer actually is one for inkjets, and can print to HP without modification. For the setup, choose "local port" and then specify the USB interface - the Wizard will show what to enter for USB.
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Nov 2006, 17:23    Post_subject: Xpdq  

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g7kse

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Nov 2006, 06:38    Post_subject:  

Todd if you're after a little feedback on custom iso's then here's something that I hope you'll consider.

I was after a lightweight distro that can run off a CF card or USB key on a mini-itx board that'll give a quick boot directly into Firefox in a full screen, so no tool bars etc.

Why?

I would like to conduct a little experiment into reducing the overall footprint of the majority of the computing in our house...i.e the internet. So office based applications to be done by Writely etc, news etc as rss through firefox plugin ins etc.

the ultimate goal would be for me to have media like music etc to be stored centrally with USB keys for local stuff.

Re-creating a web pad for sustainable computing. Using the set up wizards etc for internet connection at first run I couldn't think of too much else that'll need configuring from trying out IPup as a live distro.

Anyway what do you think
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GuestToo
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Nov 2006, 10:00    Post_subject:  

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when I boot from the flash device, the memory showing is usually just over 100 MB

as far as i know, the jwm memory applet shows the amount of free space in the save file, it has nothing to do with ram (unless you are running totally in ram with no save file, in which case, the ram is the "savefile")

you can start Puppy with only firefox running by editing .xinitrc and replacing exec $CURRENTWM with something like exec firefox
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Todd

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Nov 2006, 11:13    Post_subject: Memory  

GuestToo:

What you are saying explains a lot. (I am able to run Unleashed when I boot from USB no problem.)

Sincerely,

Todd
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EZ4arabs

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Nov 2006, 04:23    Post_subject:  

I run it from a live CD and its just what i need (Thank you so much Todd ),when i installed it full install while booting till it gets to where it checks for floppy then the following line keeps on scrolling over and over :
/usr/X11R7/bin/xwin line 35 /tmp/kbdextlayout.txt read only
I didn't do anything different than what i did with installing any other versions?!
can you please help me fixing it .
its on a thinkpad /128ram/2gb partition/800mhz

also if its not too much to ask Embarassed what to i need to run it from windows using Qemu?
reading what was posted in that thread
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=3942&highlight=qemu
tried several suggested parameters but it didn't work.
can someone please tell how to do it.
Thank you
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MU


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PostPosted: Thu 16 Nov 2006, 09:22    Post_subject:  

EZ, that's a bug, solution:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=12601

However, a frugal installation might be better, see:
http://murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=12686

Mark
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Q

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Nov 2006, 10:10    Post_subject:  

a while back I posted a sarcastic reply saying "that is not the linux way..." (sorry bout that EZ.anyway i found myself doing the same things when faced with the same problem ,it worked on a full install but i don't know the repercussions of what i did .
what i did was extracting the content of the iso and booted with grub
Code:

root (hd0,3)
  kernel /boot/isolinux/vmlinuz  root=/dev/ram0  rw vga=normal
initrd /boot/isolinux/initrd.gz

what i changed was removing loglevel=3
don't know if that fixed it or before full installing i saved then rebooted and run it then did the install.

another thing that nobody said anything about is that since version 1.08 if i put (vga=771 or 788 or 791) i get nothing but black screen but if i put vga=normal i can see the boot process ,maybe it has something to do with the kernel newer than 2.4.29 or maybe its my ancient monitor ???!!!
God bless us noobs Laughing
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Todd

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Nov 2006, 11:35    Post_subject: iPup 1.02 (55.8 MB) w/ Firefox 2.0  

iPup 1.02 is based on 2.12. I tried to keep everything the same as in 1.01, but ended up adding metamail and gftp.

Todd
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