Slacko 5.7 final - 8 March 2014

[bigpup]

thanks for not helping :

Also, do I need to install some drivers? Maybe NVIDIA? Because, it feels like a brand new installed windows XP without graphics drivers installed yet.(

menu->Setup->Video Upgrade Wizard

What does it say?

Welcome to Puppy land.
We who live all over the world help when we can, but not unusual to take 3 or 4 days to get some feedback.

We do have a life that keeps us doing other things. I have a wife, (Honey Do this, etc...) do I need to say more?


Helps a lot if you post only one question at a time.

For good results this info is needed.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90471

In the future, when posting pictures, please keep them no wider than 600. fits nicely in a normal browser window.

[James C]

Still using an earlier test version (5.6.5.6) on multi-session DVD and it's still working fine. When this DVD gets full I'll probably move up to 5.7......

[nooby]

nooby

I gotta admit that this is puzzling. I have never seen error messages like the ones you have posted.

Let me suggest the following:

1. Try booting with pfix=ram. Probably, the easiest way to do this is to copy your existing entry in menu.lst with pfix=ram instead of pfix=fsck. This will boot without the save file and eliminate that source of problems. See if this works.

2. Bizarre problems are often caused by defective downloads. Did you check the md5sum of slacko-5.7-NO-pae.iso? You can find the information here: http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... lacko-5.7/. If the md5sum does not check, reload the iso and start over. (You can check this by opening a terminal in the directory where you have downloaded the iso and
typing: md5sum slacko-5.7-NO-pae.iso.

tried to follow every suggestion but none worked.

As soon as I make a savefile then it stall at the automatic log in.
Could it be some hardware issue?None elese have trouble with the OS only here at my computer. I am lazy but I have another coputer to install it on or USB to see if that helps Not now though lack motivation

[darry1966]

Congrats to Micko and all those involved in the new release of Slacko at Distrowatch great work and sweat.

[rokytnji]

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# inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: biker Kernel: 3.10.32 i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.7.1) 
           Desktop: JWM git-905 
           Distro: Slacko Puppy Linux Linux 3.10.32 [ arch] 
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard (portable) product: Presario CQ57 Notebook PC v: 068C110003204910000620100
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3577 v: 24.48
           Bios: Hewlett-Packard v: F.42 date: 11/07/2011
CPU:       Dual core AMD C-50 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
           flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 3993 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1000 MHz 2: 1000 MHz
Graphics:  Card: ATI Device 9804 bus-ID: 00:01.0
           Display Server: X.org 1.12.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: vesa)
           tty size: 80x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.10.32
Network:   Card-1: Ralink Device 5390
           driver: rt2800pci v: 2.3.0 bus-ID: 07:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 06:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (18.3% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2500BEVT size: 250.1GB
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 59.4C mobo: N/A gpu: 59.0 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 93 Uptime: 1:35 Memory: 306.2/1623.5MB 
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.7.1 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.1.01) inxi: 2.1.28
# blkid
/dev/loop1: UUID="75c046fe-e263-4015-9712-c427241a9722" TYPE="ext3"
/dev/sda2: UUID="64F68FC2F68F92CA" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"
/dev/loop4: TYPE="squashfs"
/dev/loop5: TYPE="squashfs"
/dev/sda1: LABEL="SYSTEM" UUID="10703818703806CE" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sda3: LABEL="Recovery" UUID="EE34B6F134B6BBC1" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/sda4: LABEL="HP_TOOLS" UUID="E4C1-BF34" TYPE="vfat"
# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x16cc72e1

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048      409599      203776    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2          409600   449538047   224564224    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3       449538048   480073727    15267840    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda4       480073728   488395119     4160696    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
# cat /etc/issue
Slacko Puppy Linux
Linux 3.10.32 [i686 arch]

Running the .exe installer in-side of Windows 7. Need the 4 primary Windows stuff to tune motrcyles.

[rufwoof]

OpenShot (video edit), xvidcap (screen capture), Audacity (audio edit) and Blender (3D animation) all combined into a single SFS and each/all running well under Slacko 5.7 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=92616

I've remastered as per that thread to move Firefox out of the distro and into a portable (outside of savefile space). [Together with a number of other tweaks]. The SFS of those four multi-media apps is nearly as large as the remastered slacko 5.7 ISO (127MB vs 138MB).

[Sage]

Nice one, micko, thanks. No issues. Having Summer in Blighty - need to catch up on delayed tasks outside after three months of rain. No time for PCs till Wednesday.

[shinjipolly]

Could anyone confirm if nvidia_latest-334.21-3.10.32-i686.pet is the latest nvidia driver I could get for slacko 5.7? I have GT 540M.

And where could I get the latest chrome/chromium browser? chrome 30 can't be downloaded from PPM...

[OscarTalks]

According to the nvidia.com website the recommended driver for the GT 540M is the 304.xx so if you are going to use PPM I suggest you install the nvidia_legacy-304.119-3.10.32-i686.pet (if you are using the PAE version of Slacko 5.7).

Various versions of Chromium and Google Chrome are available on the forum. With Slacko you will possibly need to install one or two extra libs. See here:-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=86501
or for Slacko this may be even better:-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81351

[gcmartin]

Hi Everyone who uses multi-session DVD to run and maintain PUPPY in RAM.

Still using an earlier test version (5.6.5.6) on multi-session DVD and it's still working fine. When this DVD gets full I'll probably move up to 5.7......

This is a reasonably significant statement, to me, because it hints at how does one who maintains a DVD-centric system migrate it to a newer version within the same distro. Thanks @James C as this gets us to wonder "How to accomplish this kind of migration?".

Many have already seen what happens when a newer booting version of a PUP finds an older PUPSAVE version of itself on a HDD/USB; namely, it requests permission to migrate that PUPSAVE from the older version to be compatible with the booting version. But, until his posts, it never had occurred how to do this when the system is a DVD-centric one.

Those unfamiliar with DVD-centric use; there is a save-session created at each PUP shutdown. Thus, there is no single save-session equivalent for a PUPSAVE disk-image that exist on frugal installations. Thusly, the procedure that PUPPY uses to migrate a USB/HDD has to be different for DVD-centric systems versus frugal ones.

Suggestions, anyone.

[Jasper]

Boot from your current multi-session-CD/DVD, then eject it.
Insert a used (if the data is not needed) or pristine DVD or a pristine CD.
Burn your iso update (as multi-session if a CD) say, with Burniso2CD
Save on exit and reboot.
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I always save my desktop icons first.
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There is nothing to lose - and the worst result is a new CD coaster.

[gortonc]

Greetings all, and thanks to all those who participated in making Slacko 5.7 such a wonderful OS. I have been absent from puppy land for about two years now, but am happy to see that things have been progressing nicely.

I have spent much of the last week reacquainting with puppy and think I have made some significant progress but do have some questions. I will start simple... I hope

In the mirrors there are two versions of the devx. Slacko_5.7 and 5.7.0, what is the difference? Which is preferred and why?

Thanks--Its good to be back.

Chris

[OscarTalks]

The 5.7 devx goes with the NON-PAE Slacko
The 5.7.0 devx goes with the PAE Slacko

Hope that helps.

[gcmartin]

HI @GortonC.

To add to what is shared by @OscarTalks, I offer this.

PAE refers to a capability built-into a PC's CPU. If you have any Linux booted, then open a terminal and type the following command

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# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep --color=always pae

If you see nothing (no output) from the command, your PC CANNOT USE the PAE ISO or its accompanying DEVX of version 5.7

Otherwise, you will see a line indicating you do, like the following:

• flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx bts est tm2

As such, seeing the above line, you can use either ISO. Both ISOs include exactly the same applications, same desktop look and same operations. So, because your PC has the capability, you can download and run version 5.7.0's ISO and its DEVX. You will a great experience, as well.

Enjoy Slacko57

[rufwoof]

Am I correct in the belief that PAE allows for addressing/using more than 4GB of RAM and pretty much nothing else (all more or less exactly the same otherwise)?

As puppy loads itself into memory and generally is relatively small, isn't PAE somewhat mute?

I'm thinking alone the lines of a massive 1GB puppy distro still having 3GB of available memory in a 4GB non-PAE system, together with perhaps another 4GB of swap (disk file space) to utilise (assuming such had been partitioned/created).

When might the benefit of PAE actually be seen when using Puppy? The PC I'm using has 1.5GB RAM and 2GB swap and I don't think swap has ever actually been utilised.

I'm aware that its a forward looking thing - more RAM, more bits (64 instead of 32) etc. in readiness for even larger future programs, but perhaps not a concern for most general users at the present time. As such a non-PAE Slacko 5,7 version boot DVD/device has the greater potential of booting/running a wider range of PC's (older and more modern (PAE and non-PAE)) i.e. is more portable..

[gortonc]

Thank you gentlemen. I had both sfs files and now deleted 5.7 as I do have PAE.

ruwoof, I believe the advantage of PAE will show up with programs running large data sets, not large programs themselves. An example would be Bitcoin-qt.

Which brings me to my next question. I am thrilled that I have been able to get SpiderOak, Anki, and BitMessage up and running. I have not had success yet with Bitcoin-qt 0.8.6.

I have loaded devx_slacko_5.7.0, qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.2-i686-s14, and qt4_DEV-4.8.0.sfs. (Are any of these redundant?)

I just noticed that Bitcoin-qt 0.9 is out, just in the last few hours. I have not tried compiling it yet, but suspect I will have the same problem. I get the following error: fatal error: QApplication: No such file or directory

I have searched for "QApplication" to no avail. Any ideas?

BTW-I should note that my understanding of linux is VERY limited, but I am good enough at searching for, and following directions that I may seem further along than I am.

Again, thank you for any help.

[rufwoof]

For a darker taskbar theme, how can you lighten up the speaker, network and CPU icons?

I've manually increased the cpu background colour in .jwmrc-tray which helped some. I can't see anything to configure frisbee's (network icon) tray icon. And the volume configuration doesn't seem to make any difference no matter what colours I set.

TIA

[bigpup]

Am I correct in the belief that PAE allows for addressing/using more than 4GB of RAM and pretty much nothing else (all more or less exactly the same otherwise)?

Yes

With PAE.
physical address size increases from 32 bits to 36 bits. This increases the physical memory addressable by the system from 4 GB to 64 GB.

Basically, with Puppy, you would be hard pressed to use 1GB of memory in normal use.

[SFR]

And the volume configuration doesn't seem to make any difference no matter what colours I set.

To change the color of Rertovol icon, use:

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# retrovol_speaker 
Takes 1 color argument
	eg:	red, blue, green (in English)
	or hex (escaped #):	\#ff0000,\#0000ff,\#00ff00
If input is garbage then output is garbage!
# 

Greetings!

[rufwoof]

Am I correct in the belief that PAE allows for addressing/using more than 4GB of RAM and pretty much nothing else (all more or less exactly the same otherwise)?

Yes

With PAE.
physical address size increases from 32 bits to 36 bits. This increases the physical memory addressable by the system from 4 GB to 64 GB.

Basically, with Puppy, you would be hard pressed to use 1GB of memory in normal use.

Thanks BigPup

At 9 mplayer video's, one youtube my PC still played back with no slicing. Above that and things started to get choppy - primarily due to CPU. At which time memory utilisation was around 775MB out of the 1.5GB available memory (let alone 2GB of swap).

Yes there may be some cases of a viable need for 4GB+ as Gortonc mentioned earlier, but otherwise more likely it will be CPU thrashing rather than exhausting available memory IMO.