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bobtron

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Mar 2014, 18:17    Post_subject: Off topic
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Tnx Rodney Byrne
Great suggestion. Thanks for the "head's-up" where I can get the ball rolling for my Ham Radio friends {they use various Linux distros & really like Quirky and other pups}.to try out ideas.
Just thought that another space would be good place to take it for a walk.
-Cheers & TNX !
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slenkar

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Mar 2014, 11:22    Post_subject:  

When I use psync I press the number for North America but it says I am using an offset of -8 GMT What I really want is EST which is 12 hours different to GMT-8
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nancy reagan

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Mar 2014, 10:07    Post_subject: link to live cd ?  

Does anyone know the link to the lkive cd where BK is talking about Here ?

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00074
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ETP


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Mar 2014, 15:12    Post_subject: Re: link to live cd ?  

nancy reagan wrote:
Does anyone know the link to the lkive cd where BK is talking about Here ?

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00074

Hi nancy reagan,

Sorry but he has not actually issued that CD.

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broomdodger


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Location: Santa Cruz, CA

PostPosted: Sat 15 Mar 2014, 21:35    Post_subject: Re: link to live cd ?  

nancy reagan wrote:
Does anyone know the link to the lkive cd where BK is talking about Here ?

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00074
If you want to install Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 on a computer that will not usb boot (before Barry releases a live cd):

+ put all the Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 files on external storage, flash or hd

+ make a live cd of Puppy Precise 5.7.1

+ boot from the Puppy Precise 5.7.1 cd

+ run the Quirky Tahr installer from the external storage

Bill
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Jasper


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Mar 2014, 08:23    Post_subject:  

Quote:
It doesn't really matter which (although I suspect the former predominates).
Just see for yourself. Quirky has disappeared again from the DW PHR whilst the 'conventional' .iso mode for Slacko5.7 sits at No.4 (7days)
The DW is the best guide to what's happening amongst the willing troops. No good shooting the messenger whatever it's limitations and shortcomings - that's the way it is. It's an enormous challenge to wean the devil's camp followers away from Armageddon. Just have to capitalise on what folks are willing and able to cope with. Learning new tricks restricts the audience amongst those with busy lives outside the cosy cabal.
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Sage

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Mar 2014, 09:46    Post_subject:  

Just what are you trying to prove:
Quote:
44 SteamOS 326<

apart from you're a complete tw*t. Why don't you just go away and take your nasty comments with you. You don't belong here.
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Jasper


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Mar 2014, 11:17    Post_subject:  

Reductio ad absurdum would be my favourite weapon of proof, but I made no comment, I merely provided a picture and quoted your words with some added emphasis.
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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Mar 2014, 16:17    Post_subject:  

Quirky 6.1.4 Pet Packages:

I noticed, yesterday that 6.1.4 would not allow the reinstall of a pet package over the top of an already installed package. I believe other puppies allow for that. I know that I can remove and reinstall but I wasn't expecting that change. Was it by design?

Slavvo67
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mmmrr


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PostPosted: Wed 26 Mar 2014, 12:07    Post_subject: suspend/fail-to-resume on quirky 614  

edit note: formerly in quirky thread, moved here for more readers:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=767370#767370

cheers, mm

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Rodney Byne

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Mar 2014, 03:29    Post_subject: OPENVPN  

Hi to eowens2,

I'm completely new to this subject openvpn and
what it's purpose is, although I read the Wikipedia
article and found it hard going to understand.

I read your post and have questions if you could
please assist to gain more knowledge.

First, when you download openvpn_2.3.2, silly
question, do you download all the dependencies?
One of them to do with ips in the repo, is missing
as you can see for yourself if you look.
Is this file vital?

After then downloading your pet, could you detail
step by step exactly what to do in the gui.
Does it recognise the existence of the file(s)
previously downloaded?
I tried just downloading openvpn_2.3.2 on its own
and your pet can't find it?

It may be straightforward to you, but I would
welcome complete guidance.

Many thanks in advance.
Cheers.
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ETP


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Mar 2014, 11:52    Post_subject: Request for help.  

Whilst working on Blue Pup a derivative of QT 6.0.5 I have seen the following error in the bootkernel.log across PCs which relates to the loading order of kernel modules and I think can, under certain circumstances, prevent the successful detection of USB devices or partitions on them.

Barry’s original guidance on this matter can be found here:
www.puppylinux.com/technical/module-loading.htm

QT is however a very different beast as detailed in this post:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/x86/tahr-6.0.5/release-Quirky-6.x.htm

(In particular using eudev, without rules)

My questions are:
1. Is anyone else seeing this in their QT log?

2. Is there a quick fix to correct the loading order?

TIA

Edit: 29th March.
Thanks to Rodney Byne for confirming this bug.
I am not certain of my ground here, but it would appear that the kernel loads fotg210_hcd and that it cannot be corrected by editing rc.sysinit or any other config file. It looks like a matter for BK.

Whilst examining rc.sysinit I noted a possible issue with the detection of swap partitions on GPT disks which most new PCs are likely to have.
Fdisk does not support GPT so will not detect or use them. I am not clear why gdisk was dropped at least for this aspect.
Another matter for BK?
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Rodney Byne

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Mar 2014, 17:34    Post_subject: bootkernel.log in QT  

Hi ETP,

In answer to your question 1
Yes, I am seeing these lines:

2.272269] Warning! fusbh200_hcd should always be loaded before uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd, not after

2.272279] 4Warning! fotg210_hcd should always be loaded before uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd, not after

Can't answer your question 2 though
as I don't know anything about code.

So it's likely this error? is common to everybody's QT and
had possibly been overlooked in the compiling process.

Cheers
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Country Bumkin

Joined: 25 Jul 2009
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Thu 27 Mar 2014, 20:39    Post_subject: Problem Installing Tahr to 2Gb USB  

I am trying to Install Quirky Tahr 6.0.5 to a 2Gb USB stick using Ubuntu 14.04 Beta Live CD

Output as below

Code:
ubuntu-gnome@ubuntu-gnome:~/Downloads$ sudo ./install-quirky-to-drive.sh

This script will install Quirky to an entire drive, and make it bootable
[snip..]
abort if a missing utility is essential.

Press ENTER key to continue (CTRL-C to abort):

1 tahr-6.0.5.usfs.xz

Type a number from the left column: 1
...ok, have chosen tahr-6.0.5.usfs.xz

Testing integrity of compressed file, please wait...

Plug in a USB Flash drive, 2GB size, or greater, right now.
Also, please be sure that it is unmounted.
Note, 2GB is sufficient, however for a satisfactory ongoing experience
using Quirky, it is recommended to use a 4GB or greater drive. If you intend
to keep using this installation on a daily basis, to allow for plenty of
package installations, upgrades, downloads, etc., a much bigger drive is
recommended, at least 8GB.

WARNING: Many Linux distros will auto-mount a drive when it is plugged
         in. You will have to unmount it BEFORE CONTINUING!!!
         (if you are unsure about this, don't worry, the script will
          check again later, after you have chosen the drive)

Have you plugged in the drive? Then press ENTER key:

As you are not using a Puppy-derivative, you do not have the excellent
'probedisk' utility, which reports all drives. So, falling back to giving you
a simple list:

These are all of the drives found in your PC:
sda sdb sdc

Choose the drive to install to...
1 sda
2 sdb
3 sdc

Type a number from left column: 3
...ok, have chosen sdc


Uncompressing tahr-6.0.5.usfs.xz to tahr-6.0.5.usfs...

Final sanity check: 'sdc' is correct? (ENTER if OK, CTRL-C abort):

Some preliminaries on the sdc...
Size of drive=1912MB

Would you like to zeroize the entire drive before installation?
[snip...]
ENTER only to decline, (any other char to zeroize drive):

It is necessary to zeroize a small part of the drive, the beginning
and the end. The end, because if the drive previously had a GPT secondary
partition on it, this has to be wiped.
Zeroizing only first 20MB and last 20MB of drive...
5+0 records in
5+0 records out
20971520 bytes (21 MB) copied, 2.95874 s, 7.1 MB/s
...done

Creating 16MB FAT-16 first partition...
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
440 bytes (440 B) copied, 0.0775162 s, 5.7 kB/s
mkfs.fat 3.0.25 (2014-01-17)
mkfs.fat: warning - lowercase labels might not work properly with DOS or Windows
/dev/sdc1: No such file or directory
Installing syslinux in 1st partition, sdc1...
syslinux: /dev/sdc1: No such file or directory
Creating 2nd partition, size 1832MB...

Please choose whether to create a ext2, ext4, of f2fs filesystem in the
second partition. For Flash media, f2fs is very highly recommended.

1 f2fs (best choice for Flash)
2 ext4-without-journal (2nd best choice for Flash)
3 ext2
4 ext4 with journal (recommended for hard drives)

Type a number from left column: 1
...ok, have chosen f2fs

Creating f2fs in 2nd partition...

   F2FS-tools: mkfs.f2fs Ver: 1.2.0 (2013-10-25)

Info: Label = quirky2
   Error: Failed to open the device!
...done

Creating tahr-6.0.5.sfs
This will be copied to /audit/reference in the target drive, and
may be used in future for recovery purposes. Creating now...
./install-quirky-to-drive.sh: 416: ./install-quirky-to-drive.sh: mksquashfs: not found

Populating 1st partition, sdc1...
mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist

Error, failed to mount first partition, sdc1. Aborting


Problems seem to start around mkfs.fat, suggestions welcome.

Regards CB
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mmmrr


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Mar 2014, 21:08    Post_subject:  

hi cb,

i remember the quirky [and puppy] developer,
barry kauler, writing that 2gb was absolute minimum
possibly problematic in some cases. do you have even
a 4 gb you could try to see if it makes a difference?

'Some preliminaries on the sdc...
Size of drive=1912MB'

1912mb is never going to be 2gb

system installation takes more space than operation
because unpacking and installing cannot use the space
required for the installed system.

cheers, mmi
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