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#1401 Post by nooby »

Porteus LXDE or Porteus xfce? Which one would you guess
find easier to use or making less demands

My latest text of Porteus is way back in 2012?
Porteus-Wheezy from 31 Dec 2012? Is a bit odd.
Did they have no release during 2013?
or me very lazy

I feel for testing these new versions too.
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#1402 Post by Moat »

nooby wrote:Porteus LXDE or Porteus xfce? Which one would you guess
find easier to use or making less demands
Hi nooby -

I think you'd probably like either one, but LXDE might be a little easier to tweak because it generally is simpler and has fewer feature choices than Xfce (although LXDE still has plenty of useful, well thought out features available).

But both are great lightweight desktops!

And too - Xfce includes neat composting effects (transparency, window shadowing, etc) that I find are fun to play with and can make a very nice looking, pleasant-to-use and highly functional desktop. LXDE does not have composting effects, but is a little lighter on memory use.

The new Porteus is at the top of my list of the next distro to try...

Bob

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#1403 Post by James C »

Still running PCLOS MATE on my backup linux box.

http://www.pclinuxos.com/

[james@localhost ~]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 3.4.70-pclos1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Nov 22 16:15:40 CST 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
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#1404 Post by nooby »

Bob very friendly of you I take a look this afternoon most likely
I am bound with Doc visiting me to look at some med things my stomach.

So I start out with LXDE then being easier on my poor brain to grasp. :)
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#1405 Post by catsezmoo »

nooby Shackel is calling you if your stomach and your brain and your doctor allows it

three times only and the shovel and the penguin and most of all the rabies shot

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just upgraded to Win8.1 from Win8, and lost network connect

#1406 Post by otropogo »

Upgrading from Win8 (which I find almost unusable) to Win8.1 today (5-6 hours, huge licence aggreement), I immediately found my system, which had just downloaded and installed the huge upgrade, now unable to connect to the internet. And help is just a internet connection away.

Happily, Knoppix 7.2 still connects to the Internet.

I can't use Puppy on this Asus laptop (don't buy ASUS, is my advice to all - they are crooked to the core, at least in Canada, and totally incompetent to boot) because I'm still unsure what I have to do to get it in shape to conform to UEFI . Knoppix has that pre-arranged, so I just had to make some annoying steps every time I boot up - hold F2 key down immediately on reset or restart until phony UEFI BIOS menu appears, select Boot devices, and rearrange to make generic USB 1st (every time!), then go to Save&Exit, and select Generic USB (don't ask why, otherwise it boots Windows anyway).

Update: after rebooting to Win8.1, getting the same connection problem message, and letting the Win diagnostic examine my network connections, I was told that:

1. MSN.xxx wasn't responding

2. that the Windows Defender firewall was preventing my connecting to the Internet

Meanwhile I notice that news I didn't ask for or want is being displayed in a slideshow on the screen...

Good thing too, because Windows help didn't give any clue as to what needed to be done to the firewall settings. I guess it was right for part 1. However, I do recall that on the first failure to connect, I couldn't get Google or anything else to come up. And here I am, without having had a chance to do anything to fix it...

Sooooo confidence building.

BTW, this is my first posting online with IE in at least ten years (and hopefully, the last for the next ten years also)
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#1407 Post by musher0 »

Two things in your report get me scratching my head, otropogo:

1) - since when is a whinedose* version considered a distro? :wink:
2) - why would someone who already has one of the best distros installed
on the computer want to install a whinedose* on same computer?

No doubt you had to do it at gunpoint? Or maybe you suffered a concussion?
Or it's a case of PTSD? :roll: :twisted: In any case, my sincere condolences. ;)

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#1408 Post by linuxbear »

I had the same problem with a Win-8 Asus laptop. Even with the machine configured as legacy bios, I could install linux and complete the setup, but when the machine rebooted, grub was not displayed and the machine defaulted to windoze. I took the Asus machine back and bought a faster HP win-7 laptop with the refund...

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#1409 Post by bark_bark_bark »

I think ASUS is good for home made computers, but the prebuilt ones are problematic (but not nearly as much or a problem as HP and DELL).
....

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#1410 Post by anikin »

nooby wrote:Porteus LXDE or Porteus xfce? Which one would you guess
find easier to use or making less demands
The latest version is awesome, you will like it ... and LXDE takes the cake, as the lightest, easiest and less demanding.
Porteus=> boot/doc/requirements.txt wrote:Memory requirements for LXDE
------
128 MB to run Xwindow
256 MB to be able to use copy2ram cheatcode

Memory requirements for MATE
------
256 MB to run Xwindow
512 MB to be able to use copy2ram cheatcode

Memory requirements for Razor
------
256 MB to run Xwindow
512 MB to be able to use copy2ram cheatcode

Memory requirements for XFCE
------
256 MB to run Xwindow
512 MB to be able to use copy2ram cheatcode

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#1411 Post by nooby »

How is Shakel related to Proteus then?

I wonder what menu.lst they suggests?
This code boots to a installation guide that wipes out the HD
seems they don't want people to do frugal install. :)

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title slackel
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel (hd0,0)/slackel/bzImage noauto copy2ram from=/slackel/ 
  initrd (hd0,0)/slackel/initrd.img
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#1412 Post by James C »

Porteus 3.0 Mate.

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guest@porteus:~$ uname -r
3.13.6-porteus
guest@porteus:~$ 
Here's the menu.lst I'm using on an ext4 partition.

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title Porteus 3.0 MATE in sda14
  root (hd0,13)
  kernel /porteus/boot/syslinux/vmlinuz from=/porteus changes=porteus
  initrd /porteus/boot/syslinux/initrd.xz
  boot
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#1413 Post by nooby »

Thanks James

On an older Porteus from 2013 Dec 30 something
this one boots fast and the OS works as expected.

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title Portdeb (sda1/portdeb)
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel (hd0,0)/porteus/boot/syslinux/vmlinuz noauto copy2ram from=/porteus2014/ changes=/changes.dat
  initrd (hd0,0)/porteus/boot/syslinux/initrd.xz
I am using it now at time of writing. Will try to boot your code too soon .

Edit here is what goes wrong with latest 3.0 version.

I dont seem to have the needed Porteusv3.0 x86.64.sgn file.
It ask for it and when it does not find it then it refuse to load and boot.
Where do I find that file?
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#1414 Post by nooby »

Here I am using Centrych OS Have already forgotten
what that OS is based on. Is it a ubuntu maybe.
Has any of you great experience of using it?
I am totally new to it. Fail to even to spell the name.
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#1415 Post by dejan555 »

nooby wrote:

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title Portdeb (sda1/portdeb)
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel (hd0,0)/porteus/boot/syslinux/vmlinuz noauto copy2ram from=/porteus2014/ changes=/changes.dat
  initrd (hd0,0)/porteus/boot/syslinux/initrd.xz
I dont seem to have the needed Porteusv3.0 x86.64.sgn file.
It ask for it and when it does not find it then it refuse to load and boot.
Where do I find that file?
nooby, it's in porteus subdirectory, I htink problem is in your grub entry, which one is correct subdir porteus or porteus2014 ? if you boot kernel and initrd from porteus then your from=/ parameter should also be porteus, no?

BTW I just booted 2 different versions of porteus (both 3.0 but different isos choosen from their desktop wizard.) I like the approach of building and downloading custom iso.

I like the modular approach and choice of apps in lxde version is incredibly similar to puppy's, with libreoffice and firefox iso is about 340 Mb
I also tried razor-qt version because I never used that desktop enviroment, choice of apps I got in ~175 MB iso is great -gimp, vlc, qmmp, qbittorrent, unfortunately I haven't included browser.
razor qt seems slick and good.
QT is indeed powerfull framework although I don't normally use it.
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[SOLVED] Porteus display size?

#1416 Post by peebee »

Ouch - problem was my error - I had earlier version of Porteus on my hard disk - but as Nooby says below, the Porteus forum was very helpful and friendly in analysing my error....
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#1417 Post by nooby »

Don't get me wrong now. Bst chance to get answer
would be ti join their own forum. They are rather friendly to deal with.

dejan555 yes maybe the 3.0 versions is keen on havin the rightname.

But the 2.0 from Dec 2013 do boot with this code.

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title Portdeb (sda1/portdeb)
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel (hd0,0)/portdeb/vmlinuz noauto copy2ram from=/portdeb/ changes=/changes.dat
  initrd (hd0,0)/portdeb/initrd.xz[quote]
so if it accept portdeb then why would it fail with porteus2014? 
Not logical to me. I look for the .sgn file and make a opy in many places to see what happens. [/quote]
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#1418 Post by dejan555 »

yes but in that old code you have "portdeb" 3 times

In new code you have "porteus2014" only once and "porteus" twice

Is that because you have vmlinuz and initrd in directory named differently then where modules are? What I'm saying is not that it needs specific name but that maybe you put wrong name of directory in new code?
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#1419 Post by nooby »

Wow oops my bad how can I be so blind.
Embarrassing indeed. So typical me.
dejan555 thanks indeed. I try again.

What about Shakel. OS somebody suggested that
Proteus and Shakel maybe I can reuse pars of the menu.lst?

Okay one step at a time.

I have to put them side by side

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title Portdeb (sda1/portdeb)
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel (hd0,0)/portdeb/vmlinuz noauto copy2ram from=/portdeb/ changes=/changes.dat
  initrd (hd0,0)/portdeb/initrd.xz
Should be changed to
title Port2014
root (hd0,0)
kernel /porteus2014/wmlinuz noauto copy2ram from=/porteus2014/ changes=/changes.dat
initrd /porteus2014/initrd.xz

I even spotted a new error that i\ve made vmlinuz to wmlinuz
so when I did the changes you suggested and set the vmlinz
right then it just booted. So much thanks for helping me out.[/code]
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#1420 Post by Billtoo »

I installed the 64bit Slackel to a hard drive partition on my
emachines D620 laptop.

It's working well so far.
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