Pidgin 2.11.0 - Builds for Puppy 4.3.1 (and later)

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mikeb · #21 Post by **mikeb** » Wed 29 Jan 2014, 11:55

Oh there were some pets that were double the size of yours at one point...even went to sfs on one.

I never bothered to download them to find out why....might have had dictionaries / spellchecker libs, and so on...I think every possible option was enabled.

mike

#22 Post by **Makoto** » Thu 30 Jan 2014, 21:03

To be fair, though, I've seen one or two people who preferred using SFS for all their packages, even the tiny ones. (Probably using sfs_load rather than the Boot Manager.)

I use Pidgin often enough that I wouldn't want to use it as an SFS, but that's just me.

vicmz · #23 Post by **vicmz** » Thu 30 Jan 2014, 21:14

Makoto wrote:To be fair, though, I've seen one or two people who preferred using SFS for all their packages, even the tiny ones. (Probably using sfs_load rather than the Boot Manager.)

I use Pidgin often enough that I wouldn't want to use it as an SFS, but that's just me.

Not just you.

I decide to go for PET or SFS files depending on how big the app is. I don't think Pidgin is too big to use it as SFS, even including all dependencies. Also, I remove all locales except the ones I use. Maybe because I usually run Precise, which already has Pidgin so I only have to install the main package. Skype is another story.

Thanks for the update, by the way.

mikeb · #24 Post by **mikeb** » Thu 30 Jan 2014, 21:47

other than core stuff every app I use is an sfs..some only a couple of hundred k. Regular ones loaded at boot...one offs loaded dynamically.

got that from slax and made me pups do the same.

anyway we/I digress.

mike

#25 Post by **Makoto** » Fri 31 Jan 2014, 22:32

The Pidgin devs will probably be releasing 2.10.9 soon, probably this weekend - mostly due to a bug introduced in 2.10.8 that causes problems for those trying to connect to Facebook chat. (Incidentally, that's why I kept the download links for 2.10.7 in the main post.)

I don't know if there are any other fixes included, though.

mikeb · #26 Post by **mikeb** » Fri 31 Jan 2014, 23:17

mostly due to a bug introduced in 2.10.8 that causes problems for those trying to connect to Facebook chat.

some might consider that to be a feature

well thanks for keeping all of us up to date

mike

#27 Post by **Makoto** » Mon 03 Feb 2014, 21:44

I don't know... I try to stay as far away from Facebook and Twitter as possible, if I can help it.

However, since Facebook chat uses XMPP, a problem with that could theoretically affect other XMPP users (Google Chat, etc.).

Anyway, v2.10.9 has been released; the download links are in the first post of this thread.

mikeb · #28 Post by **mikeb** » Sun 16 Feb 2014, 12:01

Hi Makoto

I got the urge to build 2.10.9 and play a bit.
I used libnss (mozilla) for ssl which seemed to work just fine for yahoo and did not then need the gnutls dependancies, and also enabled sasl and added libsasl2 which some irc networks use for tor also...all seemed happy.
glib 2.16 is used for a couple of functions which I had updated in 4.12 for stability with flash player so must mention that too....they could be bypassed but then again the update for 4.12 is worthwhile.

By the way what is perl used for .. for my old 2.5.8 version I deleted the perl libraries which are quite big and could not detect any loss of function?

mike

dejan555 · #29 Post by **dejan555** » Sun 16 Feb 2014, 14:11

I guess for ability to add additional perl scripts/plugins:
https://developer.pidgin.im/doxygen/dev ... howto.html

mikeb · #30 Post by **mikeb** » Sun 16 Feb 2014, 14:39

Yeah the obvious answer lol...I suppose i was wondering if any of the standard chat ability is dependant on its presense.
Funny the examples seem to duplicate what pidgin does anyway... or perhaps I am missing something which is often the case.

My take on this is having a basic only whats needed pidgin leaving out all the juicy extras that are available to keep it puppy sized.

mike

dejan555 · #31 Post by **dejan555** » Sun 16 Feb 2014, 14:57

Not sure if it's used for anything else, but if there's a --disable-perl option in configure then it's probably not crucial for main functions, and after configure finishes it outputs which protocols are enabled.

mikeb · #32 Post by **mikeb** » Sun 16 Feb 2014, 15:04

and after configure finishes it outputs which protocols are enabled.

good point ... thats how I eliminated gnutls....

cheers... i will give it a test

mike

mikeb · #33 Post by **mikeb** » Sun 16 Feb 2014, 16:17

--disable-perl
did not give any messages about lost features so I guess its just there for added perl scripts..

mike

abuian · #34 Post by **abuian** » Sun 06 Apr 2014, 19:29

Just saw this security issue with GNUTLS:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03 ... sdropping/

It looks like you have to use the older version with this build of Pidgin; any chance it could be re-built to work with the patched version?

Trevor

#35 Post by **Makoto** » Tue 08 Apr 2014, 05:09

dejan555 has provided a new build of gnutls 3.2.13 and Pidgin 2.10.9, compiled against it. If you'd like to try these builds, download them from here:

gnutls-3.2.13-i486-431.pet (Note: This may require the two dependencies (gmp, nettle) found in the post below.)

pidgin-2.10.9-i486-431.pet

Thanks again, to dejan555, for all your help.

dejan555 · #36 Post by **dejan555** » Tue 08 Apr 2014, 05:56

No problem, you might need
gmp-6.0.0-i486-431.pet and nettle-2.7.1-i486-431.pet
as gnutls dependencies.

mikeb · #37 Post by **mikeb** » Tue 08 Apr 2014, 10:26

Hmm that gnutls discovery does look a bit hairy.... one to note is that pidgin can be built to use nss from mozilla instead which is usually no problem since puppy normally adds mozilla libs to the path.
I did this with my puppy build of pidgin more as a space saving excercise in an older pup that does not include gnutls.

mike

abuian · #38 Post by **abuian** » Tue 08 Apr 2014, 11:37

Awesome! Thanks. One of my next major projects is to play around more with building my own packages; that Mozilla option sounds intriguing, though I see that the Linux from Scratch guide advises against it. In the meantime, I figured anyone else who was using the Pidgin build from this thread would benefit from an updated package.

Incidentally, it looks like the current version of Slacko comes with another version of GNUTLS. I wonder, if they updated it, if it would be possible to install Pidgin without any other dependencies. Probably a simple question, but that's just how ignorant I am of building packages

Trevor

mikeb · #39 Post by **mikeb** » Tue 08 Apr 2014, 12:00

Suck it and see...ldd will help but you need to ldd all the plugins too.

As for NSS perhaps they say that as you usually need xulrunner/nss stuff to build it...i happen to have those around for building gnome-mplayer plugins and puppy dev files may do too.
Running configure with yer wanted options will soon tell you if you have what you need. The pidgins here are built without gstreamer support which makes life a whole lot easier.

run ./configure --help to see al the options. Also you can see what was used to build a working version going into help/build info.

mike

mikeb · #40 Post by **mikeb** » Sun 13 Apr 2014, 18:16

Hmm I cannot connect to yahoo with gnutls.... nss works just fine.

Not sure who this affects...may well be gnuTLS version dependent after the recent revelations.

mike

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