Slacko64 - 64 bit Puppy - 6 Feb 2014

[Karl Godt]

Fresh boot frugal from sdb6 on ext4.

Have not made any settings yet.

Good work !

Machine :
Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
Product Name: OptiPlex 755
Family: Xeon
Manufacturer: Intel
Core Count: 2
Core Enabled: 2
Thread Count: 2
Characteristics: 64-bit capable

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 3913304 842656 3070648 0 78264

Xorg.0.log :

[ 34.786] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[ 34.786] drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
[ 34.787] drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:02.0
[ 34.787] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[ 34.787] drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
[ 34.787] drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 8
[ 34.787] drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:02.0
[ 34.787] (**) intel(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[ 34.787] (==) intel(0): RGB weight 888
[ 34.787] (==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor
[ 34.787] (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) Q35
[ 34.787] (--) intel(0): Chipset: "Q35"

[ 34.970] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
[ 34.970] (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 34.970] compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 1.2.0
[ 34.970] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[ 34.970] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[ 34.970] (II) Unloading vesa
[ 34.970] (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
[ 34.970] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
[ 34.970] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: i915
[ 34.970] (II) intel(0): Allocated new frame buffer 1920x1080 stride 8192, tiled

[Karl Godt]

loaded the devx via sfs_load and compiled aqualung
simple

./configure
make
./src/aqualung

works .

[Ted Dog]

testing multisession and sadly nothing got fixed... no bluray changes. and not sure if the tools where upgraded. ran out of inodes after 3rd save session. To many files something overflowed.. just noticed Im surffing with airplane mode on you guys may never see this. But firefox on driod must have a kicka$$ cache system.

[gcmartin]

... works

Hi @KRG
Is this going to be presented as a PET for Slacko64 users? I'd consider running it.

[Karl Godt]

Hi @KRG
Is this going to be presented as a PET for Slacko64 users? I'd consider running it.

Hmmm.. ppm does not list aqualung .

.pet gz without doc and nls and only one skin is 600 KB in size and with everything is 1200 KB .

So cannot attach here (anymore) .

Hmmmm.. have no access to ibiblio to upload anything.

[01micko]

http://woof-ce.26403.n7.nabble.com/Slacko64-tp257.html

5.8.8 is out!

[Ted Dog]

yes.... looking forward to testing it...

Deltas? jus5 so you would not forget. But no rush I plan on downloading this full iso at Starbucks when in town soon. Thanks.
Also got last verison to boot with EFI with a blank boot screen so this will be nice, should let it boot as quicky as Fatdog64 with EFI support. Does it still have Apple file tools and systems

[James C]

In the middle of yet another ice storm/polar vortex mess but was able to download between power outages. May not attempt to test until the temp gets above freezing (not for several days) so the ice can melt off the power lines.

I'll probably get bored and try to get it installed anyway.

[01micko]

delta is up.

Same as last version regarding apple support. It is in the kernel but not in userland. Install the hsf-tools and you are good.

I have the EFI FB console drivers in there now. The black screen radeon may be modesetting. Try:

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radeon.modeset=0

on the kernel line.

[gcmartin]

Excellent PUP. It looks exactly like the 32bit Slacko excepting it feels so very very fast. And everything just pops so very very smoothly.

Download
Beginning, using Smokey01 download site listed in opening post of this thread, I downloaded at over 2Mb/sec with ISO arriving in just under 2 minutes.

System Boot
Burned ISO and booted on a non-UEFI PC. Started system "pfix=ram,copy,fsck" setting time, keyboard, and hostname in FirstRUN.


MTP
Next up, I plugged my MTP device in and it instantly was popped to the screen. When I allowed MTP to mount, it open a ROX folder. BUT, there is no icon on screen whent the ROX folder for the MTP device is closed. May want to look into an icon which allow user to Unmount the MTP from the desktop.


SAMBA
Started SAMBA to connect this PC's download folder for LAN user sharing using the built-in Network SSM utility. One item of note that we may want to review is whether the SMB2 protocol option is still necessary since version 4.10 (current Slacko version is 4.13).


So far, everything is running so smoothly, it is hardly noticeable how comfortable this feels, as, all apps are instant or near-instant in operations.

Thanks for such a smooth OOTB experience.

Edited Restructure post for easier following of images

[smokey01]

gcmartin, look in the tray (turn head right) to unmount. Less clutter.

[gcmartin]

Thanks @Smokey01. I found it just after I posted. Clever, @01Micko. Hope others notice this too as it is a departure from traditional device representations on desktop.

This system is behaving so smoothly. Everything appears to be sliding into the desktop when launched and they slide off when minimized or closed in a very quiet uninterrupted or snapping manner.

A better description may be that its just so damn responsive! Wonderful.

Thanks, again!.

[smokey01]

Mick does good work.

[gcmartin]

LH64 has a Netboot subsystem built-in. It is used to allow PCs on a LAN to boot from LH64 by simply giving the subsystem the ISO.

I gave it the Slacko64-588 ISO and was able to boot 4 PCs into Slacko desktops in 25-30 seconds total. Surprisingly, they all arrive at desktop at about the same time even though they each have different speed 64bit CPUs with different capabilities. I guessing that each PCs is significantly faster than the LAN so that may be why they all arrive at desktop within 1-3 seconds of each other.

System boot time remains the same (~25secs) when system booted and a save file is present on the local USB.

Would like to see that Netboot subsystem made available for Slacko users, later this year.

Thanks Mick.

[gcmartin]

One item of note that could get a stream of questions, especially from newbies, is the initial LAN experience. Even though a DHCP host is present on the LAN, Slacko64 is NOT initializing the PC at initial starts. Again, this is a departure from tradition.

Hope this helps

[L18L]

Fresh boot frugal from sda3 on ext2.

Have not made any settings yet except

- langpack installed
- edited xorg.conf:

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#110627 remove...
##server can find BusID automatically, comment out...
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "modesetting" #card0driver
VendorName "Unknown Vendor"
BoardName "Unknown Board"
## BusID "PCI:0:2:0" #card0busid
EndSection

xorgwizard failed and should get modesetting as fallback.

Would you like to change the welcome text from puppy to slacko64?
..or use new modified welcome1stboot?.

[01micko]

Even though a DHCP host is present on the LAN, Slacko64 is NOT initializing the PC at initial starts. Again, this is a departure from tradition.

Well.. it is meant to connect. I notice L18L did. Slacko has a mechanism to show a different welcome screen if connected, something lacking in the BaCon version. I really don't know, or intend to learn BaCon/Basic so if that can be fixed (that is detection of connection in the bacon version) then there would be no need of the work around I have employed. To the original query.. I wonder if this may be a limitation of net booting in your setup? Every time I have had a live RJ45 plugged on my 3 64 bit machines I have gained connection.

xorgwizard failed and should get modesetting as fallback.

First, thanks for testing. It is possibly a missed call to /usr/lib64 (my bad). I will look at that and thanks for the report.

Would you like to change the welcome text from puppy to slacko64?
..or use new modified welcome1stboot?

Don't know yet. I did see your improvements. Ziggy wants us to convert welcomefirstboot to gtkdialog; with good reason as he has invested a significant amount of time making a gtkdialog library for woof-CE. The "jury is still out" (colloq) on that one.

[L18L]

..or use new modified welcome1stboot?

Don't know yet. I did see your improvements. Ziggy wants us to convert welcomefirstboot to gtkdialog; with good reason as he has invested a significant amount of time making a gtkdialog library for woof-CE. The "jury is still out" (colloq) on that one.

As fatdog does not include bacon I have used slacko64 to compile and upx my modified version.
welcome1stboot attached
translatable using momanager.

EDIT
Note, executable works only in slacko64, not in Fatdog

.

[mavrothal]

Delightful
My only complain is that in a high dpi density screen (common in modern 64bit laptops) the defaults are too small.
I guess by grepping Xorg.log for "Image Size" and PreferredMode you can figure that, but by then is too late to change things automatically.
Oh well, JWM Manager works pretty well anyway, so is just few extra clicks

EDIT: Just noticed that the battery applet is not working on this laptop and powerapplet_tray just exits without any messages (Just exit 1)

[L18L]

...Slacko has a mechanism to show a different welcome screen if connected, something lacking in the BaCon version. I really don't know, or intend to learn BaCon/Basic so if that can be fixed (that is detection of connection in the bacon version) then there would be no need of the work around I have employed.

here is the (shell) code (embedded in BaCon) to check if connected; entire source welcome1stboot is:

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REM welcome window, first boot of Puppy.
REM (c) Copyright Barry Kauler 2011, bkhome.org
REM License GPL v3 (/usr/share/doc/legal)
REM 110412 first release.
REM 110414 tweak dimensions for non-English (thanks L18L and rodin.s).
REM 120630 1st bootup in PUPMODE=2, removed section about saving session.
REM 130204 include hug.bac, avoid needs recompiling when hug.so updated. (but much bigger!)
REM 130209 go back to hug.so.
REM 130710 Puppy default dpi has changed from 78 to 96.
REM 131210 modified for quirky6.
REM 140205 modified for puppy and quirky and fatdog (anything in 1st word of /etc/issue)
REM 140206 modified (for slacko) to be different if already connected
REM compile and create pot file: bacon -x -d /tmp welcome1stboot.bac

ISSUE$=EXEC$("cat /etc/issue | head -n 1 | cut -d ' ' -f1")
SETENVIRON "ISSUE", ISSUE$

OPTION INTERNATIONAL TRUE
REM .po/.mo files have 'charset=UTF-8', so either set UTF-8 on in LANG variable, or do this...
SETENVIRON "OUTPUT_CHARSET", "UTF-8"

REM Final exe size: incl hug.bac: 178K, func list: 134K, shared hug.so: 47K...
REM INCLUDE "/usr/share/BaCon/hug.bac",ATTACH,BUTTON,CALLBACK,DISPLAY,FONT,HIDE,HUGOPTIONS,IMAGE,INIT,MARK,MSGDIALOG,PROPERTY,QUIT,SHOW,WINDOW
INCLUDE "/usr/share/BaCon/hug_imports.bac"
REM http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/stable/GtkWidget.html#gtk-widget-set-tooltip-text
IMPORT "gtk_widget_set_tooltip_text(long,char*)" FROM "libgtk-x11-2.0.so" TYPE void

INIT

'# check connection
'#shinobar
'LANG=C route | grep -q 'default[ ].*[ ]0\.0\.0\.0[ ]' && \
'grep -wq nameserver /etc/resolv.conf && \
'ping -c1 sourceforge.net &>/dev/null && CONNECTED="yes" || CONNECTED=
SYSTEM "echo -n no > /tmp/CONNECTED; LANG=C route | grep -q 'default[ ].*[ ]0.0.0.0[ ]' && grep -wq nameserver /etc/resolv.conf && ping -c1 sourceforge.net &>/dev/null && echo -n yes > /tmp/CONNECTED "
CONNECTED$=EXEC$("cat /tmp/CONNECTED")

REM fix window font layout regardless of dpi...
REM 78 is the Xft.dpi in /root/.Xresources when I designed the layout... now 96...
HUGOPTIONS("BASEXFTDPI 96")
REM User may have GTK theme font size too big/small. set to required size...
HUGOPTIONS("FONT DejaVu Sans 10")

REM hack for russian, ru...
mycountry$=LEFT$(GETENVIRON$("LANG"),2)

REM space required for the session-save section, if not PUPMODE=2...
'vert_space_save=0
'IF FILETYPE("/initrd") EQ 2 THEN vert_space_save=112
vert_space_save=4

SUB ic_func()
 SYSTEM "/usr/sbin/connectwizard & "
END SUB

SUB setup_func()
 SYSTEM "/usr/sbin/wizardwizard & "
END SUB

SUB close_dlg(NUMBER widget)
 HIDE(widget)
END SUB

REM to disable decorations, need to hide window first...
HUGOPTIONS("WIDGET_SHOW 0")
REM reduced height by 112 pixels...
mainwin = WINDOW(INTL$("Welcome"),656,402+vert_space_save)
PROPERTY(mainwin,"decorated",FALSE)
HUGOPTIONS("WIDGET_SHOW 1")

image_logo=IMAGE("/usr/share/doc/puppylogo96.png",96,96)
ATTACH(mainwin,image_logo,68,5)

label_welcome=MARK(INTL$("Welcome,"),350,24)
REM left-align for single-line label...
PROPERTY(label_welcome,"xalign",0.0)
FONT(label_welcome,"DejaVu Sans Bold 20")
ATTACH(mainwin,label_welcome,188,20)

REM label_subhdr=MARK(INTL$("This is the first time you are running Quirky!"),462,24)
pot_msg$=INTL$("This is the first time you are running ${ISSUE}!")
label_subhdr=MARK(EXEC$("eval echo $(gettext 'welcome1stboot' 'This is the first time you are running ${ISSUE}!')"),462,24)

PROPERTY(label_subhdr,"xalign",0.0)
FONT(label_subhdr,"DejaVu Sans 14")
ATTACH(mainwin,label_subhdr,188,50)

button_x=BUTTON("",26,24)
image_x=IMAGE("/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/mini-cross.xpm",16,16)
PROPERTY(button_x,"image",image_x)
gtk_widget_set_tooltip_text(button_x,INTL$("Close window"))
ATTACH(mainwin,button_x,622,6)
CALLBACK(button_x,QUIT)

label_ic=MARK(INTL$("Internet connection"),250,24)
PROPERTY(label_ic,"xalign",0.0)
FONT(label_ic,"DejaVu Sans Bold 14")
ATTACH(mainwin,label_ic,60,108)

IF CONNECTED$ = "yes" THEN
 label_ic_body=MARK(INTL$("\nCongratulations, you are already connected to the Internet."),500,30)
ELSE
 label_ic_body=MARK(INTL$("Click on the 'connect' button on the right, or icon at left of the screen (one click only -- do not double-click!). You will then see some buttons for choosing how you wish to connect to the Internet -- click the most appropriate. It is easy..."),500,70)
 button_ic=BUTTON("",58,56)
 image_ic=IMAGE("/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/connect48.png",48,48)
 PROPERTY(button_ic,"image",image_ic)
 gtk_widget_set_tooltip_text(button_ic,INTL$("Connect to Internet"))
 ATTACH(mainwin,button_ic,584,116)
 CALLBACK(button_ic,ic_func)
 label_c=MARK(INTL$("connect"),82,16)
 FONT(label_c,"DejaVu Sans Bold 10")
 PROPERTY(label_c,"xalign",0.5)
 ATTACH(mainwin,label_c,571,172)
ENDIF

PROPERTY(label_ic_body,"xalign",0.0)
PROPERTY(label_ic_body,"yalign",0.0)
PROPERTY(label_ic_body,"wrap",TRUE)
ATTACH(mainwin,label_ic_body,60,130)

REM bad hack for russian translation...
IF mycountry$ = "ru" THEN
 vert1=186
 vert2=208
ELSE
 vert1=202
 vert2=224
END IF

label_help=MARK(INTL$("I need help!"),280,24)
PROPERTY(label_help,"xalign",0.0)
FONT(label_help,"DejaVu Sans Bold 14")
ATTACH(mainwin,label_help,20,vert1)

REM label_help_body=MARK(INTL$("Explore the 'Menu' -- see bottom-left of screen. Lots of local help is available -- select 'Help' in the menu. The local Help page also has the Release Notes for this version of Quirky -- well worth checking out! When you get online, the web browser home page has many more links."),628,70)
pot_msg$=INTL$("Explore the Menu -- see bottom-left of screen. Lots of local help is available -- select Help in the menu. The local Help page also has the Release Notes for this version of ${ISSUE}-- well worth checking out! When you get online, the web browser home page has many more links.")
label_help_body=MARK(EXEC$("eval echo $(gettext 'welcome1stboot' 'Explore the Menu -- see bottom-left of screen. Lots of local help is available -- select Help in the menu. The local Help page also has the Release Notes for this version of ${ISSUE}-- well worth checking out! When you get online, the web browser home page has many more links.')"),628,70)

PROPERTY(label_help_body,"xalign",0.0)
PROPERTY(label_help_body,"yalign",0.0)
PROPERTY(label_help_body,"wrap",TRUE)
ATTACH(mainwin,label_help_body,20,vert2)

image_tray=IMAGE("/usr/share/doc/tray.png",178,28)
ATTACH(mainwin,image_tray,40,282)
label_tray=MARK(INTL$("...mouse-over and click the tray applets, very helpful!"),431,16)
PROPERTY(label_tray,"xalign",0.0)
ATTACH(mainwin,label_tray,222,286)

label_setup=MARK(INTL$("Setup"),280,24)
PROPERTY(label_setup,"xalign",0.0)
FONT(label_setup,"DejaVu Sans Bold 14")
ATTACH(mainwin,label_setup,70,320+vert_space_save)
label_setup_body=MARK(INTL$("Want to install an upgraded video driver? Country localization? Printing? Sound? Mouse? Keyboard? Click here (or 'setup' icon at top of screen):"),500,70)
PROPERTY(label_setup_body,"xalign",0.0)
PROPERTY(label_setup_body,"yalign",0.0)
PROPERTY(label_setup_body,"wrap",TRUE)
ATTACH(mainwin,label_setup_body,70,342+vert_space_save)

button_setup=BUTTON("",58,56)
image_setup=IMAGE("/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/configuration48.png",48,48)
PROPERTY(button_setup,"image",image_setup)

REM gtk_widget_set_tooltip_text(button_setup,INTL$("Setup Quirky"))
pot_msg$=INTL$("Setup ${ISSUE}")
gtk_widget_set_tooltip_text(button_setup,EXEC$("eval echo -n $(gettext 'welcome1stboot' 'Setup ${ISSUE}')"))

ATTACH(mainwin,button_setup,584,323+vert_space_save)
CALLBACK(button_setup,setup_func)
label_set=MARK(INTL$("setup"),87,16)
FONT(label_set,"DejaVu Sans Bold 10")
PROPERTY(label_set,"xalign",0.5)
ATTACH(mainwin,label_set,568,379+vert_space_save)


SHOW(mainwin)
DISPLAY
REM the end

compiled 80 k, upx'ed 27 k