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musher0

Hello people!

If you're disappointed with the speed of recent Seamonkeys, you may wish to try
debian's Iceape. Same functions: mail, news, browser, chat, html editor; sqlite editor as
an add-on if you want.

Except it loads in 4 seconds instead of 10. Is it just me, just on this computer?
Feedback welcome.

I don't know if Iceape versions follow Seamonkey's closely or not. This is Iceape 2.7.12
whereas the latest Seamonkey is version 2.23. This Iceape bears a date of August 2013,
though, so it can't be that old.

Also, this a Debian "jessie" (experimental Debian) build, more advanced than "wheezy",
but less risky than "sid". From a Debian point of view, this archive is pretty much current,
even a bit in the future.

In any case, as I said, this Iceape has the same functions as Seamonkey, and the
launching speed is just great, even faster than opera 12.16.

Packaged into a pet from a deb archive located at:
http://packages.debian.org/fr/jessie/i386/iceape/download
on upupRaring 3.992. YMMV on your own Puppy, of course. Again: feedback welcome.

Iceape 2.7.12 for Puppy can be downloaded from: http://limelinx.com/ftk2u

How-to:
- Install the iceape pet.

- Erase the /usr/lib/seamonkey directorieS (note the plural) or move them to an inactive
back-up folder.

- Change the command inside the /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser file (or "remark" the
existing one with a #) to

mcewanw · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 3151 Location: New Zealand

mcewanw · Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 3151 Location: New Zealand

Ah, it was iceweasel I was using before that is a brand of Firefox... Haven't tried iceape.

musher0 · Posted: Mon 30 Dec 2013, 11:09 Post subject:

Hi, mcewanw.

You're thinking of icecat, the "totally free" counterpart of Firefox, published by the Free
Software Foundation. Rather clunky adaptation, IMO.

Iceape is the counterpart of Seamonkey, and it's published by Debian. This one is quite
elegant and responsive, by comparison to icecat.

BFN.

musher0

musher0 · Posted: Mon 30 Dec 2013, 11:10 Post subject:

Iceweasel? Hadn't heard of that one.

rokytnji · Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 2285

I ran iceape as part of the default browser install in AntiX since the early days (ver 6.5) for
years and like it.

I quite running it on my AntiX 11 box which is current with a 3.12.5 kernel and Debian testing updated yesterday, I run Firefox nightly and Seamonkey nightly in /opt with selfcontained downloaded .bz2 .

Reason is, that for a while I noticed support had dropped in Debian testing which I run and no Iceape upgrades were coming in. That was the only reason I went through
jumping hoops to change default browser installation.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2013/12/msg00053.html

AntiX runs nimbly on ram usage anyhows so I never really noticed the change. What I did notice was my iceape would not accept later Seamonkey addons because addon site said my Seamonkey was too old.

Now on my AntiX 13 installs. I run Iceweasel from Debian experimental repos to get the latest which stays pretty current with Firefox. Dillo I use for html doc viewing like downloaded web pages ,and, links2 for practice,for when I am on really low spec gear.

But don't get me wrong. Iceape learned me on using Seamonkey in Puppy so I really
liked using it.

musher0 · Posted: Mon 30 Dec 2013, 16:46 Post subject:

Just my luck. But thanks for the info , rokytnji.

On Dec. 16, Debian announced end-of-life for Iceape. Iceape being so similar to
Seamonkey, Debian cannot re-distribute it, and they're chucking Iceape. (That's what
I understand.)

[self-censored] Wink

Anyway, let's enjoy Iceape while it lasts! It's still current now! BFN.

Pelo · Last edited by Pelo on Thu 23 Jan 2014, 11:42; edited 1 time in total

Very light browser needed instead of Dillo because Dillo not recognized by SFR WIFI FON.
Usually distros are provided with an installed browser.
If not, old puppy user hold under their elbow one or two browser pets.
Matter is closed. But to welcome brand new Linux users, Puppy should find a very light browser to start the connection with the web.
Iceape could be this one.
An old Firefox v.3.6 does the job well. But let us get our sight larger with other products.
I come back and inform Very Happy

Iceape won't take off.
Allo Musher0, pls give us yr instructions, please. Exclamation

bill · Joined: 28 May 2008 Posts: 492

I have never been concerned about "Speed" but I have been concerned about
clever tricks the newer Seamonkeys demonstrate.They seem to remove usr options like cookies and how often Saves are made.This is why I use Seamonkey 2.0.7 even though it seems to upset the "Powers that be"

666philb · Joined: 07 Feb 2010 Posts: 3094 Location: wales

faster seamonkey http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00291

edoc · Posted: Thu 13 Feb 2014, 17:34 Post subject:

Firefox is planning to embed ads & block AdBlock - will that same bad decision be ported to Seamonkey?

My son & friends have already decided to dump FF - they're looking at the Palemoon browser (Microsoft only).

I'd prefer to stay with Seamonkey but am looking at Midori (WebKit) and Web/Epiphany (WebKit) and others.

No way I'd go to Google Chrome as I try to purge anything-Google due to their monopolistic & anti-privacy policies.

WDYT?

rokytnji · Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 2285

Terryphi · Posted: Sat 15 Feb 2014, 05:03 Post subject:

edoc · Posted: Sun 16 Feb 2014, 09:26 Post subject:

Our 18yr old IT major son was the one who told me about the FF changes - he sent me this link as his source:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/132204-Built-In-Advertising-is-Coming-to-Firefox

Terryphi · Posted: Sun 16 Feb 2014, 10:05 Post subject: