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Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.7 - Nov., 2017 - Final
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drblock2
Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 153 |
rerwin, The difficulty in finding the error is that performance is inconsistent. This morning I booted up my 12-year-old Athlon with the 528-005 save file and got the jwm taskbar. Rebooting brought up the fbpanel taskbar. Resetting with WM Switcher did not change back to jwm the first time I tried it, it did when I repeated the operation. I have also tried manually switching by closing X and typing xwin jwm - same behavior, it often does not work until the second try. Performance is the same on my ThinkPad R400 with a new save file. The Athlon (with the old save file) has an additional problem: On rebooting, the thumbnails assigned to new icons I have created by drag and drop to the pinboard get lost, leaving the generic icons behind. This does not seem to be a problem with the other machine. This is all rather puzzling since I have never encountered these difficulties with any other puppy of the many I have experimented with. Since I am unlikely to need OpenBox, it would suit my purposes to simply change the default to jwm and disable switching. |
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
Hello, drblock2. It should be a problem on all your Puppies!  That's not a bad joke.
What I mean is: it's a known bug. Maybe even a "feature" of Puppy... That only happens when: you change or move some icons on the desktop AND there's addition of a savefile (meaning: first save) OR when you choose to add an sfs file to the Puppy (such as the devx file or an OpenOffice sfs or VLC sfs, etc.) Manual solution: change or move your desktop icons as you like. Once finished: go to /root/Choices/ROX-Filer copy file PuppyPin to PuppyPin.backup If Puppy resets your icons on reboot: go to the same folder and do the reverse:
Make it semi-automatic: Save the above three lines as file restore-desktop.sh, make it executable and use as needed. That way, you get back your preferred icon arrangement as needed. (Making it fully automatic would mean changing the .xinitrc file [the main startup file], and that would be a bit too involved and not practical [for technical reasons] for something that happens only occasionally.) Another practical hint that derives from the above -- to all, BTW: create your savefile or DVD save-session as soon as you have finished specifying your country, locale, timezone, screen size, etc. in the initial settings panel on first boot. Only on second boot should you add programs to your Puppy, or move icons on your desktop; I don't think it's written in any Puppy docs, but it's more productive that way. ~~~~~~~~ As to the permanent change of window manager: simply go to the initial black console with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and type
This will restart your desktop in jwm. It won't be etched in stone, but if you don't touch the wm changer after that, jwm will be your default window manager every time you boot. I hope this helps. BFN. musher0 _________________ musher0 ~~~~~~~~~~ "You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen) |
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drblock2
Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 153 |
musher0, Thanks for detailed explanation of the pinboard. I really had no idea where to start and you put me on the right track. The directory /root/Choices/Rox-Filer contains to relevant files. PuppyPin seems to contain information on positioning, caption and executable file. Here is a sample entry for one of the icons I added:
Information about the thumbnails stored in globicons:
Both entries appear to be in order. A search for Rox files turned up a second copy of globicons in /root/.config/rox-sourceforge.net/Rox-Filer. This file is missing the added icons. It seems to include only the default settings. If I overwrite it with the "complete" version of globicons in Choices and restart X - eh, voilà, the missing thumbnails appear on the icons. Unfortunately, when I reboot, I am back to square one. The custom thumbnails are missing again. Inspection of globicons in rox-sourceforge.net shows that the file has been overwritten with the original values and does not contain the new entries. As soon as I have time, I will try installing a new save file to see if the problem persists. As for jwm, it is still inconsistent. Sometimes the system boots into jwm as expected, sometimes I get the fbpanel taskbar. Dropping out of X and entering xwin jwm restores jwm, taskbar and all, but sometimes it is necessary to do this twice. Edit: Later in the day, booted with pfix=ram, did initial setup, country settings, time zone, keyboard, firewall. Changed file manager to jwm with wmswitcher and rebooted to create a new save file. On reboot, jwm loaded and I created the new icons with custom thumbnails. I rebooted again three times and and both jwm and the new icons loaded. Too bad about the old save file. I will gradually integrate the old features into the new save file as time permits and go from there. The main point is that this is not a show-stopper for new users! Let me endorse your advice:
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Pelo
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 12591 Location: Mer méditerrannée (1 kms°) |
Lucid Puppy : long life to this Puppy. 
Before, i switched the kernel from Racy 5.3 to get wifi working. Lucid now has kernel 3.0.25 inside. Well ! Nothing to do, just switching ma laptop on... And choosing the browser. ViVa SULU ! (added in the Pelo's Kennel club) Ps : what' make the difference between Puppies (my criteria) As at the restaurant, the menu ! French like changing the meals, tasting new food. And how the meals are cooked too. What would you think about a restaurant where the customer has to cook himself the meals ? Lucid is now well appreciated for his pets card (Mummy Lucid was better cooker than her Precise children) Last edited by Pelo on Mon 27 Jan 2014, 23:41; edited 2 times in total |
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
Hi, drblock2. Thanks for the thanks! Regarding the globicons file in /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer, I think it has priority over the one in /root/Choices/ROX-Filer. As for me, I don't bother with the one in /root/Choices/ROX-Filer anymore. Again, the quirk is the same as for the PuppyPin file, and so is the solution : make a back-up of /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/globicons as soon as you are satisfied with your icon changes on the desktop, and copy it back on the next boot if the Puppy thinks it knows better than you do! I agree with your comment that it's not exactly newbie-friendly... I mentioned this 4-5 years ago, and nobody listened. Oh well... Unfortunately, I'm just a "power user", not a trained programmer, so this is the best solution I can offer. (A stop-gap, really, not a real solution...) As to integrating your old savefile into your new one, that's rather easy: once in your "new" active Puppy, double-click on the old pupsave file, and then copy what you need from it to the corresponding folders in your active Puppy. Maybe use a file "syncer" such as JFileSync to make it even easier. Best regards. musher0 _________________ musher0 ~~~~~~~~~~ "You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen) |
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sheldonisaac
Joined: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 908 Location: Philadelphia, PA |
Hi, my (new-ish) Dell Latitude E6410 laptop seems to have a resolution of 1280 by 800? It maked things rather small on the 14" screen. How can I get, for example, 1024 x 600? This is with Super Lupu Puppy Linux. Thank you. (my apologies: I've posted in Hardware also) _________________ Dell E6410: BusterPup, BionicPup64, Xenial, etc Intel DQ35JOE, Dell Vostro 430 Dell Inspiron, Acer Aspire One, EeePC 1018P |
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bigpup
 Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 13981 Location: S.C. USA |
sheldonisaac, Look at your hardware/video post for answer. _________________ The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected 
YaPI(any iso installer) |
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don922
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 434 Location: Nong Yai Buah |
I have been using 528.6 with the JWM desktop for a couple of weeks. First with the Firefox26 browser and starting today with the Firefox27 browser. Yesterday while using Firefox 26, before upgrading to 27 today, I tried to use
How do I fix this? _________________ Don -- Thailand  |
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OscarTalks
 Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Posts: 2202 Location: London, England |
Quick test, Lucid 5.2.8.6 pfix=ram, tried both Openbox and JWM Installed my new Firefox ESR 24.3.0 which has all the same updates as Firefox 27 but is the extended support release.
Seems to run OK for me here.
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don922
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 434 Location: Nong Yai Buah |
I am not sure what your "Quick test" demonstrates -- you are using pfix=ram and a different version of firefox. I am not sure why you interjected Openbox into your reply. Also, your graphics don't necessarily show that Firefox is in Safe Mode because you are booted pfix=ram. Are you implying that I have not encountered a failure? Certainly, your comment is not helpful! _________________ Don -- Thailand |
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 10548 Location: SwedenEurope |
Shinobar have an easy to understand Download page but slow. But how does one know the difference between all the iso's ? 
_________________ I use Google Search on Puppy Forum not an ideal solution though |
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bigpup
Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 13981 Location: S.C. USA |
Not sure if it works or not. I tried getting into safe mode by using the console command and by going to help->restart with add-ons disabled. With help->restart with add-ons disabled. I get the warning window about safe mode. With the console command it just starts firefox in safe mode. Maybe? The question is: How do you really know you are in safe mode? To me, Firefox looks the same as normal, when it first starts. I do not see anything on the initial Firefox window that indicates you are now in safe mode. _________________ The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer) |
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don922
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 434 Location: Nong Yai Buah |
The answer is all of the Add-ons have been disabled and do not appear on the Menu Bar or the Navigation Bar. For example, Adblock Plus, NoScript, or any other Add-on which shows an icon will be missing. As an alternative, look in Tools>Add-ons and all your Add-ons will be disabled. _________________ Don -- Thailand |
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sszindian
 Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 807 Location: Pennsylvania U.S. |
WiFi is still dropping!!!! Seems to drop mostly in Facebook and some online Newspapers. There appears to be NO AUTO RECOVERY when this happens and only a cold hard shutdown turns the computer off. X-Precise-2.2 is (so far) the only puppy that auto recovers when wifi drops. Using: Linksys USB w/rt2800usb config >>>---Indian------> _________________ Cloud Computing For Every Puppy (a .pet) http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69192 |
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cthisbear
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 4499 Location: Sydney Australia |
"WiFi is still dropping!!!! Seems to drop mostly in Facebook and some online Newspapers. " Change your wifi channel. """""""" Also look here Internet connection drops after 15 min [solved] http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91857 Chris. |
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