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sszindian


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2014, 14:29    Post subject: Google Earth  

rerwin wrote:
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sszindian wrote:
Nice... but in order to use the search function in Google Earth, you have to go into-
/opt/google/earth/free and 'rename or delete' the file named- libcurl.so.4 (that should be removed in next build!)

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rerwin wrote:
Can you tell me more about this? I need to know the reasoning behind the removal, in case it would impact something else.

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As far as I can find out, the libcurl.so.4 was only for the search function in Google Earth (Google Earth BELOW version 7) Some (in various forums) say that some other script in Google Earth will 'over-ride' the libcurl.so.4 script for the search feature. I can't say for sure as there are mixed-thoughts on this. What I 'Do Know' is that by either deleting or re-name it to something like 'OLD-libcurl.so.4' (which I did in every pup I have running Google Earth below version 7) allows the search function to work as it should and I can't find where any of the other Google Earth functions don't work as they should or are affected by the re-name or delete of it.

Apparently Google 'fixed' this problem (or eliminated the libcurl.so.4 script) in their version 7 but... most older computers won't run version 7 unless you up-date your graphics card to a much newer one so having Google Earth '7' in the PPM will probably eliminate more Google Earth users for puppy than it will gain unless they have a much newer computer?

If 'I' were building the puppy program, I would eliminate the libcurl.so.4 and make it available in the PPM (with notification) that it's available should anyone find the need for for it in Google Earth (below version 7.) but... that's your call! All I do know is that the available Google Earth's you have available in the PPM (below version 7)... the SEARCH FUNCTION WILL NOT WORK in your present builds!

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mikeb


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2014, 18:20    Post subject:  

Just thought you all would like to hear what Barry thinks about those of us that use Lucid....

Quote:
But, if you want to use an ancient version of Puppy (5.2.8.006) that lacks so many good features, and you want to reinvent the wheel, that is your choice.

Anyway, I'll go away and leave you to it.


Nice to have his approval

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rerwin


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2014, 19:31    Post subject:  

mikeb,
Well, lupu is ancient as far as some of its applications go. But I am attempting to upgrade the pieces the folks in this thread and elsewhere call to my attention. And I have made several small internal improvements that I plan eventually to provide to the woof-CE project. Barry's comment seems triggered by an expectation that lupu is part of the evolution of puppy that he has provided.

Lupu is frozen in time except for selected upgrades, often plucked from recent puppy developments. I maintain it for those of us happy to stick with it because is does not evolve, but serves our needs over the years.

The comment related to digital camera support, which Barry improved after playdayz's final version, 528-005. Unfortunately, Barry's PupCamera tool was never made into a pet package, so would require extracting the scattered pieces into a package that we can install in lupu.
EDIT 1/6/2014: To respect Barry's decision to keep PupCamera an integral part of puppy, I have backported it into the next version of 5.2.8.6.


sszindian,
I have added p(un)install.sh scripts to the only google-earth (6...) package in the repo and named the new version as "528" instead of "525". I will upload it shortly and add it to the "PET Packages" directory there.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/424b6xtus9mxz/Supplemental%20PET%20Packages

pinstall.sh:
Code:
#!/bin/sh
if [ -h usr/lib/libcurl.so.4 -a ! -e usr/lib/libcurl.so.4HIDE ];then
 mv usr/lib/libcurl.so.4 usr/lib/libcurl.so.4HIDE
fi

if [ "$(readlink usr/lib/libcurl.so.3)" != "libcurl.so" ];then
 mv usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 usr/lib/libcurl.so.3HIDE
 ln -s libcurl.so usr/lib/libcurl.so.3
fi

puninstall.sh
Code:
#!/bin/sh
if [ -h /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4HIDE ];then
 mv -f /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4HIDE /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4
fi

if [ -h /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3HIDE ];then
 rm -f /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3
 mv -f /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3HIDE /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3
fi
I do not want to break the libcurl.so.3 link when removing the suggested link. I hope you will try it.

EDIT: As I upload the new package, I notice that it is one-third the size of the original. That does not bode well. I will look into that.


I am close to starting remastering of the next set of uploads of 5.2.8.6, containing gnome-mplayer-1.0.7, pfbpanel-0.5 (by radky -- adds a battery monitor) and QuickPet for all lupu/sulus with improved nvidia driver determination. I have already uploaded nvidia drivers for lupu and sulu2.
Richard

Last edited by rerwin on Mon 06 Jan 2014, 17:23; edited 2 times in total
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2014, 19:42    Post subject:  

Nice work.... I did rebuild mplayer for Lucid for my own qhims...just streamlined it down to include player only ability (ie no encoding) and dropped a few dependancies that seemed (to me) unneeded..libsambaclient and the framebuffer stuff... the full blown debian builds do like to include the kitchen sink.

As for Lucid..it did pioneer using ubuntu as a binary source and its repositories...without the work that went into that puppy precise might not even exist as such.

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2014, 20:54    Post subject:  

A long term supported version of Puppy, has been needed for a long time.

Lucid Puppy is that version for me.

rerwin,

Keep up the good work you are doing.

Many people may not tell you, but I know many do thank you Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Very Happy Very Happy

Just because it is new does not make it better.

Windows Vista sure proved that Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes Shocked

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2014, 21:28    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Keep up the good work you are doing.

Many people may not tell you, but I know many do thank you

Of course.
Thank you rerwin!
Cordialement,

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2014, 22:39    Post subject:  

rerwin wrote:
The comment related to digital camera support, which Barry improved after playdayz's final version, 528-005. Unfortunately, Barry's PupCamera tool was never made into a pet package, so would require extracting the scattered pieces into a package that we can install in lupu. I am not ready at this time to take that on. But it seems do-able.

PeasyPrint was also created in the dark times prior to PupCamera. But it has a camera mounting option based on gphotofs that works fine for me in Lupu. Mount the camera and drag the files to a new location.

Get it here. You need peasyprint-2.3.pet and gphotofs-1.0.pet. Read the instructions for mounting and unmounting.
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2014, 23:31    Post subject:  

Thanks, rcrsn51. I am adding the 2 packages to 5.2.8.6. RPhoto is too large -- it would probably make the main puppy file too big to fit into 256MB RAMs (considering the reduction reserved for video RAM).
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jan 2014, 06:55    Post subject:  

I did save 5-10 MB uncompressed with the mplayer (plus gecko player) build...if you are looking at saving space...one to consider perhaps..

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jan 2014, 16:14    Post subject:  

OK, I "caved". I have extracted pupcamera and gphoto2 from wary for the next build. Now, my question is whether it can replace peasyprint or are they complementary, in that they do different things?

My concern is that peasyprint is part of a group "peasy" utilities, that probably should be left for modern puppies. Does peasyprint perform a required function not otherwise present in lucid pup?
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Moose On The Loose


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 12:11    Post subject:  

rerwin wrote:
OK, I "caved". I have extracted pupcamera and gphoto2 from wary for the next build. Now, my question is whether it can replace peasyprint or are they complementary, in that they do different things?

My concern is that peasyprint is part of a group "peasy" utilities, that probably should be left for modern puppies. Does peasyprint perform a required function not otherwise present in lucid pup?
Richard


Can you also make a pet out of it. I am running 5.2.8 and have made a start on my own path towards camera integration. I have made changes to my 528 system and don't want to have to try to remake them on an new install.

In return for your efforts:
I suggest you put in a copy of the psync-2.0 I made.
I mostly worked on making it so it always worked or it tried to tell you why it didn't. The one that came with 528 would never sync my computer at boot and gave no indication of why, for example.

I am going to continue on a few improvements in the pmount and will pass them along as I get something that is fully tested.

Other than integrating the camera into pmount, I am mostly attacking things that made pmount have worrisome long pauses before the next dialog comes up on a liveCD with a small amount of RAM.
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 12:31    Post subject:  

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I am going to continue on a few improvements in the pmount and will pass them along as I get something that is fully tested.

Other than integrating the camera into pmount, I am mostly attacking things that made pmount have worrisome long pauses before the next dialog comes up on a liveCD with a small amount of RAM.

I built mut2 with ext4 support.... thats the daemon not the gui... might be of use to you...works fine in Lucid.

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014, 23:20    Post subject:  

"Frisbee searched and found my WiFi configuration right off the bat. I said 'connect' and the small dialog window appeared asking for my encryption key password. Typed that in and Bingo!!! WiFi was connected and singing like a bird to my system... "

Frisbee, to me, is one of the all time great additions to Puppy. I was so pleased with it from the very first that I wanted to send a donation to the developer. Still do, for that matter. Having it preset and ready to install without an internet connection was a great idea for Lucid.
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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 09:11    Post subject:  

Including good software I believe is one of Lucids trademarks Smile part of its pupularity.

Not sure if Jemimah is available for hugs....

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jan 2014, 15:39    Post subject:  

Just a quick input here to say that Lucid 5.2.8 has been my standard OS since it was released. My installation is so loaded now (in the gigabytes) that a change to something else would be a chore. And fortunately, I do not wish to change. In fact, I keep a few Puppy 5.2.8 CDs around to give away and when folks will let me I install it for them.

My progression through Linux was been Redhat when it was free, then Fedora, CentOS, Puppy 5.1.1 then Puppy 5.2.8. For me Lucid has been the perfect fit. I am grateful to all who have had a part in making this OS available to us.

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