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nooby

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Dec 2013, 06:31    Post subject:  
Colonel Panic my memory fails me
but maybe what rcrsn51 suggested to
test iso with his isoboot? You would get
a good picture of how Manjaro acts and
the programs it has and how you feel for them.

Almost every iso boot with his USB codes.

I have use his isobooter for Linuxmint Chrunchbang
Solus amd SoLud linux and Zorin
and many more and it almost always work.
Maybe one iso out of 50 fail and that could be me
not getting it. Very easy set up. Use link in my signature
to find his thread here on the forum. It will be live
and you can save music and pictures but not
the personal settings.like timezone or keyboard
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Dec 2013, 09:04    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
Colonel Panic my memory fails me
but maybe what rcrsn51 suggested to
test iso with his isoboot? You would get
a good picture of how Manjaro acts and
the programs it has and how you feel for them.

Almost every iso boot with his USB codes.

I have use his isobooter for Linuxmint Chrunchbang
Solus amd SoLud linux and Zorin
and many more and it almost always work.
Maybe one iso out of 50 fail and that could be me
not getting it. Very easy set up. Use link in my signature
to find his thread here on the forum. It will be live
and you can save music and pictures but not
the personal settings.like timezone or keyboard


Thanks for your advice nooby, but as I said on a different thread recently, we're spoilt for choice with Linux distros (including Puppy of course) at the moment. So the question remains - why bother with all that when there are plenty of good distros (including Puppies) which configure the boot leader perfectly well?
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Dec 2013, 02:22    Post subject:  
I'm so noob that I don't what a " boot leader " is
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which configure the boot leader perfectly well?

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Dec 2013, 04:35    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
I'm so noob that I don't what a " boot leader " is
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which configure the boot leader perfectly well?


Should of course have been "boot loader." Smile The spell checker in Firefox only picks up misspelled words; it doesn't pick up words which are spelled correctly but are used where another one is meant.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Dec 2013, 06:22    Post subject:  
Oops sorry that I did not have the imagination to get that spelling error.

Sine last post I have tried to frugal boot OpenSUSE
but get the error that it fail to find the MBR file it need.

How can one satisfy that need?

I use this grub4dos code.
Code:

  title openSUSE_13.1_GNOME_Live
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /opensuse/boot/x86_64/loader/linux ramdisk_size=512000 ramdisk_blocksize=4096 splash=silent quiet quiet showopts
  initrd /opensuse/boot/x86_64/loader/initrd


would it load if I delete the showopts if that is related to MBR?
I have Ms Vista so it make use of NST for to put some kind of
bootloader on it. Vista is kind ofdifferent so such was needed and
maybe that explain why it does not boot???

Any friendly suggestion how to get it t boot
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Dec 2013, 14:51    Post subject:  
I got curious on Armchairlinux it is Arch based
I know nothing else about it. ere are some links

http://www.armchairlinux.org/

http://sourceforge.net/projects/armchairlinux/

So would love that somebody give some advice on
how to boot this OSon NTFS frugal boot "live"

No hurry I can wait being a pensionist/retired person Smile
One have all the time in the world.

I failed to boot it frugally so most likely
it want the ntfs-3g to be installed for to use NTFS partition.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Dec 2013, 16:43    Post subject:  
I’ve just reinstalled AntiX 13.1, which for some reason seems to work better with my existing software (Softmaker Office works in it, for example) and install more cleanly than does its successor (AntiX 13.2). It remains one of my favourite distros.
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Dec 2013, 03:36    Post subject:  
Just upgraded to a larger hard drive on this old box, first I installed Slacko 5.6 and I just finished installing PCLOS Mate 2013. Easy install and looking really good so far.

Code:
[james@localhost ~]$ uname -r
3.4.70-pclos1



Code:
[james@localhost ~]$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       3374680    1583644    1791036          0      49672    1114428
-/+ buffers/cache:     419544    2955136
Swap:      8294396          0    8294396
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Keef


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PostPosted: Sun 29 Dec 2013, 15:27    Post subject:  
nooby

Frugal boot on NTFS is a goer...

This is my Grub4Dos entry (took a bit of messing about):
Code:
title Armchair Linux [i3]
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /arch/boot/i686/archiso.img
kernel /arch/boot/i686/vmlinuz archisobasedir=arch archisolabel=NTFS quiet
initrd /arch/boot/i686/archiso.img


The important bit is the 'archisolabel=NTFS' bit.
NTFS is the label I have given sda1 using Gparted. Your ntfs partition may already have a label (check in Gparted), if so use that label.
If not, you will have to boot using a LiveCD to label the partition, as you won't be able to when running from it.

Armchair itself use the i3 WM which is keyboard orientated - keyboard shortcuts are shown on first boot. Browser is dwb, which is also keyboard driven.
No idea about persistence yet, but it looks interesting anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Dec 2013, 04:04    Post subject:  
Keef much appreciated you cared to give that info.

Unfortunately the label is compaq and not NTFS Smile

could some windows program that I use for upgrading
my many smartphones get twisted if I change it to NTFS?
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Dec 2013, 04:09    Post subject:  
nooby,

Like I said in my post, if you already have a label, use that one, no need to change. My partition did not have a lable to start with, so I had to add it. The name itself doesn't matter, I could have called it 'Godzilla'.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Dec 2013, 12:13    Post subject:  
Keef I don't remember but I think it gave some error code
and then failed to boot. Maybe it need the partition to be linux
and not NTFS?
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Dec 2013, 15:24    Post subject: Re: Simplicity changes direction again  
peebee wrote:
What a strange distribution Simplicity Linux is.....

For their latest offering - 14.1Beta - they have jumped ship again and are using Slacko5.6 as their base + LxPup-by-SFS (an old version) + various bits from XFCE.

You would think that their users would get very confused by their repeated changes of direction.....

The worry is that quite a lot of people are downloading Simplicity and maybe read that it is a Puppy derivative without understanding that the Simplicity team seem to make no contribution or acknowledgement to the Puppy community.

I guess we should be pleased that they are able to use so many Puppy components without apparently finding any problems during their extensive testing.....

All the best
peebee


I've just downloaded Simplicity 14.1 (the latest version) now. It works OK as a live disk but my attempt to install it to my hard drive failed.

It's good that it's got Chromium working but apart from that I can't see that it's anything much of an improvement on Slacko or indeed any at all on the other Slacko derivatives (such as PHAT or XL) that we see here.
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jan 2014, 01:34    Post subject:  
I previously had Ubuntu 8.03 on my system but it developed and issue where when you clicked on the shutdown button, it disappeared. Of course Ubuntu want you to use the latest version. I tried Lubuntu - slow as a wet week. I have tried FatDog 64 but it seems to run out of puff after running for a while - especially with a couple of dozen web pages open
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jan 2014, 02:38    Post subject:  
Barry Kauler who is the main Dev of Puppy
does recommend that beginners at Puppy
try out a stable version of slacko. puppy linux

I would also consider Lucid Puppy which is also named Lupu.
Make a frugal install of both and you notice the difference.

I have used both and they work good on my gear.
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