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#81 Post by eowens2 »

eowens2 wrote:
I am trying to install quirky6.0.1 on to a laptop 32GB SSD drive, selecting a f2fs format. I am installing from a 16 GB USB stick running quirky6.0.

The install process reported no errors and resulted in a 16 MiB /dev/sdb1 with apparent required files (including a syslinux.cfg with a valid UUID for partition 2, and a boot flag present), and a 28.5 GiB /dev/sdb2 with what appears to be a normal root file system.

When I try to boot I get "This is not a bootable disk. Please insert a bootable floppy and try again". I checked on my version of syslinux and it is 5.10.

BK warned that syslinux 5.10 has problems, and when I try to install syslinux-4.05-86.pet I get "Error, package 'syslinux-4.05-86.pet' failed to install."

I found a copy of "syslinux-3.73.pet" but when I clicked on it, it also failed to install.

Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong?

BK wrote:
I have had no trouble with installing PETs in Quirky 6.0. You just download the syslinux-4.05-x86.pet, then click on it. Then it gets installed.
Turns out I had a bad download on syslinux-4.05-86.pet (thought I had checked the sha1sums...apparently not!). Re-downloaded the PET and it worked fine.

The f2fs installation to the 32 GB SSH drive is now booting smoothly.

Thank you.

rameshiyer

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#82 Post by rameshiyer »

Dear Barry Sir

Now I am able to install quirky in Hard Disk after increasing the save file Precise Puppy. 5.7.1.( Precise says not able to Mount Point, etc) Still it is not recognizing the Linux Partition. I don;t know the connection between file size of "save file" in Precise and installation of Quirky in other partition. Finally Quirky installed in both machine. Thank you Very much.

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#83 Post by mavrothal »

BarryK wrote: The zombo PETs had a bug, I fixed them, look at ibiblio (names now have "-1":
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... s-quirky6/
On a fresh quirky-6.0.1 install with the zcombo -1 pets xvmc is sitill missing.
Also now SeaMonkey segfaults.

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booting Quirky 6.0.1

#84 Post by drblock2 »

I attempted to install Quirky 6.0.1 to an 8 GB USB stick from an ntfs partition. The install script admonished me to use a linux partition. As the only one I had handy was a reiser partition on another machine, I copied the files to that machine and attempted to install from the reiser partition, using Precise 5.7.1 (which was located on another FAT32 partition).

Everything seem to go well, except for a strange warning to the effect that the FAT16 sdb1 partition on the USB drive "seems to be write only."

Attempting to boot from the USB stick failed with an error message saying that the disk was not bootable.

I moved to Slacko 5.6.1 and checked sdb1 on the USB stick. There were five files listed:

boot.msg
file.lst
help.msg
logo.16
syslinux.cfg
vmlinuz

So, the partition was certainly not read only (at least at the point when these files were copied).

I removed these for safe keeping since I was now venturing into don't-know-what-I-am-doing territory and ran

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syslinux -s /dev/sdb1
This wrote a single file to the partition: ldlinux.sys. I copied back the files listed above and rebooted.

Voilà! Perfect boot on my ThinkPad R400.

Could this problem be eliminated by loading an appropriate ldlinux.sys (I used SYSLINUX 3.73 2009-01-25 ) along with the other five files?

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#85 Post by zekebaby »

BarryK wrote:However, there is another later report, see above, that xz is ok in a fat32 partition.
One explanation may be because I used 'xz' from Upup Precise 3.8.3.1, which might be a different version than the one in Quirky.

If I have time, I'll do some tests tonight; sending the compressed image file to md5sum or sha1sum using both Quirky and Upup and see if there are differences.

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Re: booting Quirky 6.0.1

#86 Post by Ted Dog »

drblock2 wrote:I attempted to install Quirky 6.0.1 to an 8 GB USB stick from an ntfs partition. The install script admonished me to use a linux partition. As the only one I had handy was a reiser partition on another machine, I copied the files to that machine and attempted to install from the reiser partition, using Precise 5.7.1 (which was located on another FAT32 partition).

Everything seem to go well, except for a strange warning to the effect that the FAT16 sdb1 partition on the USB drive "seems to be write only."

Attempting to boot from the USB stick failed with an error message saying that the disk was not bootable.

I moved to Slacko 5.6.1 and checked sdb1 on the USB stick. There were five files listed:

boot.msg
file.lst
help.msg
logo.16
syslinux.cfg
vmlinuz

So, the partition was certainly not read only (at least at the point when these files were copied).

I removed these for safe keeping since I was now venturing into don't-know-what-I-am-doing territory and ran

Code: Select all

syslinux -s /dev/sdb1
This wrote a single file to the partition: ldlinux.sys. I copied back the files listed above and rebooted.

Voilà! Perfect boot on my ThinkPad R400.

Could this problem be eliminated by loading an appropriate ldlinux.sys (I used SYSLINUX 3.73 2009-01-25 ) along with the other five files?
Yes syslinux can not be just copied.. some cases it will work but not all. A corrupted filesystem would act just like you described. You should reformat and duplicate just to be safe.

rameshiyer

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#87 Post by rameshiyer »

In both Precise and Quirky, my 3G Internet connection is working perfectly. During booting, it says 3G modem detected. No more settings required and network connection established . My modem is Huawei Hi-Link Modem. I am very much impressed. Thanks.

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My report on Quirky 6.0

#88 Post by Billtoo »

I compiled Wine 1.7.9 and installed the windows version of Vlc 2.1.2,
Vlc works okay for sound but videos don't play smoothly although they
are viewable.
Also VLC doesn't work on some of my other Quirky installs for some
reason,the install with the intel driver for one.
Just having fun anyways :)
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How to do a manual frugal install to a hard disc partition.

#89 Post by ETP »

Background.

I only ever boot my pc from a 8GB USB2 stick which remains permanently plugged in. It is split into two partitions FAT32 and EXT4 which provides a working partition for Linux files to preserve permissions.
Syslinux 4.04 is used on the first FAT32 partition to provide the boot. The kernels and initrds of several pups are installed in separate directories on this partition. The relevant main sfs’s and save files are installed in dedicated directories on the first NTFS partition of my SSD. XP Pro is also installed on that volume.

The hard drive has a second f2fs partition containing the savefile and main sfs for Thin Slacko. The 3rd partition (sda3) is a 2GB Linux Swap partition available to all pups.

This setup can be described as a manual mixed frugal install. You get the speed of boot from the hard disc but none of the risks associated with installing other boot-loaders on your C: drive. NTLRD is sacrosanct and all too easily upset.

STEP1:

Follow BK’s instructions and perform an install of Quirky to a USB stick. I opted for f2fs as the format for the second partition on the stick as I intended ultimately to utilise the existing f2fs partition on my SSD. (sda2)

STEP2:

Test that it works and fill in the usual first-run fields. Shut down and put it to one side.

STEP3:

Prepare a fat32 boot stick or card using syslinux 4.04. Creating a second (ext4) partition is optional.

STEP4:

Shrink your NTFS partition using Gparted in an f2fs aware Pup such as Precise 5.7.1.
Obviously you need to have the free space to shrink the volume and I would suggest minimising the shrinkage to say 8-16 GB which will be sufficient to then create a 2GB swap partition plus either an f2fs or ext4 partition if you prefer. If you already possess a suitable partition you can use that. It is strongly advisable to perform a disk check within Windows before shrinking an NTFS partition.

STEP5:

Create a “quirky
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#90 Post by starhawk »

Followed directions exactly, installing to a 2gb SD card in my ASUS 1000HEB.
This is not a bootable disk. Please insert a bootable floppy and try again.
:(

How do I fix? All files appear to be there... the ASUS is currently running a frugal install of Upup Raring 3992.

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#91 Post by ETP »

Hi starhawk,

It sounds like something went wrong with STEP3. (Preparation of boot stick or card)

I am aware that I did not provide detailed instructions for that step. They can be found here:
http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/HowTos

EDIT 22/12/13
If you are still struggling please see EDIT at the end of my original post in this thread.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 369#745369
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My report on Quirky 6.0

#92 Post by Billtoo »

I used SFS-load on-the-fly to install the kernel_src-3.12.2-patched.sfs
file and was then able to install the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-304.117.run
proprietary driver.


video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 22 Dec 2013 on Quirky 6.0.1 Linux 3.12.2 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.14.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (602x343 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

Number of GPUs: 1

GPU #0:
Name : GeForce GTX 560 Ti
PCI BusID : PCI:1:0:0

Number of Display Devices: 1

Display Device 0 (DFP-0):
EDID Name : Ancor Communications Inc ASUS VE278
Minimum HorizSync : 24.000 kHz
Maximum HorizSync : 92.000 kHz
Minimum VertRefresh : 50 Hz
Maximum VertRefresh : 85 Hz
Maximum PixelClock : 170.000 MHz
Maximum Width : 1920 pixels
Maximum Height : 1080 pixels
Preferred Width : 1920 pixels
Preferred Height : 1080 pixels
Preferred VertRefresh : 60 Hz
Physical Width : 600 mm
Physical Height : 340 mm

Vlc plays video perfectly in Wine 1.7.9 now.

EDIT:
Added dosbox and icewm.
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#93 Post by starhawk »

@ETP -- I was following Barry's directions. That's the only thing I did. I'm afraid your stuff was too long for me to keep straight, so I didn't pay it much attention. I'm using an SD card anyhow (not a flash drive) and it doesn't have anything else on it (nor will it -- it's only 2gb...)

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#94 Post by ETP »

starhawk wrote:@ETP -- I was following Barry's directions. That's the only thing I did. I'm afraid your stuff was too long for me to keep straight, so I didn't pay it much attention. I'm using an SD card anyhow (not a flash drive) and it doesn't have anything else on it (nor will it -- it's only 2gb...)
@ starhawk,

Arhhhhhhhhh……… Confusion reigns! ……. Quite funny really.
On the subject of confusion, there is some guy posting comments on Barry’s new blog called “Admin
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#95 Post by gcmartin »

Hi @BarryK

Thanks for this project. New refinements as this evolution depicts.

Questions
Understanding the work which has been done for the distro's installation to Flash/HDD units, will there be a DVD/Blu-ray (ISO) for distro's RAM-only operations produced?

Any insights on this versus the past would be helpful if the direction in this area is changing. For example, is it true that session files have no play in this current incarnation of Quirky?

Thanks and have a Happy Holiday Season...Everyone
Edit: 2nd question.
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My report on Quirky 6.0

#96 Post by Billtoo »

I did another install to a 32gb SDHC card and then installed the
proprietary nvidia driver + wine 1.7.9 + vlc 2.1.2 for windows just to
make sure it wasn't a fluke :)

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 6.0.1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe xtrap
Drivers requested to be loaded: nvidia

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse ramdac wfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

I also had
zcombo_xorg_glsoft-20131207-1-i486-quirky6.pet,zcombo_xorg_glsoft_DEV-20131207-1-i486-quirky6.pet,devx_quirky_6.0.1.sfs, and kernel_src-3.12.2-patched.sfs loaded/installed.

It takes plenty of time and patience to install on a kind of slow SDHC card, much
faster from a hard drive partition install.
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#97 Post by smokey01 »

Is there a way Quirky 6.0.1 could be tested in VirtualBox?

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#98 Post by gcmartin »

Hi @Smokey01
smokey01 wrote:Is there a way Quirky 6.0.1 could be tested in VirtualBox?
NOt sure if this helps, but, here is a BootManager setup from @ETP that might be useful.

Hope this helps

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#99 Post by smokey01 »

gcmartin wrote:Hi @Smokey01
smokey01 wrote:Is there a way Quirky 6.0.1 could be tested in VirtualBox?
NOt sure if this helps, but, here is a BootManager setup from @ETP that might be useful.

Hope this helps
Not that I can see.

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#100 Post by jamesbond »

smokey01 wrote:Is there a way Quirky 6.0.1 could be tested in VirtualBox?
Like this?
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