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nooby

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Dec 2013, 06:27    Post subject:  NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide  

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NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-tracking-cellphone-locations-worldwide-snowden-documents-show/2013/12/04/5492873a-5cf2-11e3-bc56-c6ca94801fac_story.html?hpid=z1

All in the name of security for us law abiding citizens. We should feel safe.

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The National Security Agency is gathering nearly 5 billion records a day
on the whereabouts of cellphones around the world, according to top-secret
documents and interviews with U.S. intelligence officials, enabling the agency
to track the movements of individuals — and map their relationships —
in ways that would have been previously unimaginable.


Who would have guessed we are now that secured.
If I get lost due to old age and a confused aging brain
I can point to the homepage of NSA and say. They know
who I am and where I am and where I live so ask them. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec 2013, 03:01    Post subject:  

Cellphone data spying: It's not just the NSA

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/08/cellphone-data-spying-nsa-police/3902809/
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec 2013, 06:06    Post subject:  

jpeps thanks for that link. Show how common this is.

In my country we are discouraged to use pre-paid
phones without register it so they know whom are
using the anonymous SIM card on that phone.

They want to couple or relate each mobile users identity
to each phone so they know whom using it.

So when I made a phone call to my operator Tele 2
then they refused to answer a tech question about that
phone and SIM card without first knowing whom I am.

Them most likely have that recommendation from Police
and Security agency here locally. They hinted that was
the reason but did hide it as Bank Robbery only concern.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec 2013, 08:20    Post subject:  

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Who would have guessed we are now that secured.
If I get lost due to old age and a confused aging brain
I can point to the homepage of NSA and say. They know
who I am and where I am and where I live so ask them.


They also probably know where you going too, but it helps if you can remember the day Very Happy -

Reference: Google developing software to predict your movement years into the future http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/19/far-out-location-prediction_n_3622015.html

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec 2013, 15:52    Post subject:  

Hehe to predict the future is very difficult.

Did any of us foresee this amount of total control we have now.???

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec 2013, 18:09    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Hehe to predict the future is very difficult.

Did any of us foresee this amount of total control we have now.???


http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_%28roman%29
[quote]1984(originaltitel: Nineteen Eighty-Four) är en roman av den brittiske George Orwell som skrevs 1948,[1] publicerad 1949.[2] [/quote]

Hmmm .. I am thinking about to multiplify myself using the Scotty method but using copy instead of move ...
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The simple truth is there will always be cost overruns. And as we all know, Time is Money (and girls are evil). The Urban Dictionary defines The Scotty Principle as:

The defacto gold star standard for delivering products and/or services within a projected timeframe. Derived from the original Star Trek series wherein Lt. Cmdr. Montgomery ‘Scotty’ Scott consistently made the seemingly impossible happen just in time to save the crew of the Enterprise from disaster.

http://ipstenu.org/2011/the-scotty-principle/

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Dec 2013, 11:42    Post subject:  

Don't forget Hofstadter's Law, which is potentially incompatible with Scotty - It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Dec 2013, 14:48    Post subject:  

darkcity wrote:
Don't forget Hofstadter's Law, which is potentially incompatible with Scotty - It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.


That is a good one. When they build things in Sweden
it usually take longer time then their worst fear and
cost twice or more in the end.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Dec 2013, 09:17    Post subject:  

Or government IT programs in UK ; -)
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Dec 2013, 09:35    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
"Anyone willing to trade Freedom for Security, deserves neither"

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec 2013, 16:42    Post subject:  

Haha I have heard that one before.

Here in Sweden our version of the NSA
having another name naturally. Säpo

Security Police. SePo in Englsh rough translation
them or they are so at it that they have secret talks
with each Mobile phone provider and Operator
and tell them they should cooperate and give them
total access to every mobile phone on that service

The Operators and Providers don't want to comply
and tell the newsmedia about the pressure they get
from the Security Police. SÄPO deny that it is a pressure
them seeing it as a factual telling of the consequences
of the services not giving access. 800 Dead in terror attack
is a likely consequence they warn. Are you really accepting
to have that responsibility on your head if you don't give us
total access?

A kind of moral blackmailing.

The future is bright and secure indeed. Smile

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