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My report on Quirky 6.0
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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2138
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2013, 06:04    Post_subject:  My report on Quirky 6.0  

I installed to an 8gb SDHC card.

Summary
Computer
Processor 4x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Memory 3634MB (60MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky - 6.0
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sun 15 Dec 2013 04:53:51 AM EST
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 3.12.2 (i686)
Version #1 SMP Thu Dec 5 03:05:44 WST 2013
C Library GNU C Library version 2.17 (stable)
Distribution Quirky - 6.0
Linksys WUSB54GC v1 802.11g Adapter [Ralink RT73]

My wireless works now.
I haven't done much testing yet but everytime that I start Seamonkey
there is a popup saying the it's the first time that Seamonkey has
been started.

I made an htop pet if anyone wants it.

That's it so far.
htop-1.0.2-i686.pet
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005
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Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2013, 08:07    Post_subject:  

Billtoo,
That is strange that you get the popup every time that you start SeaMonkey. I have tested that, and it only came up once.

There is a script, /usr/bin/seamonkey, that destroys itself after the first run, replacing itself with a symlink to /usr/lib/seamonkey/seamonkey.

Well, you can probably fix it by forcing a symlink, like this:

Code:
# ln -snf /usr/lib/seamonkey/seamonkey /usr/bin/seamonkey


Quirky 6.0 announcement
Here is the announcement on my blog:

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00024

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Ray MK


Joined: 05 Feb 2008
Posts: 765
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2013, 10:34    Post_subject:  

This looks promising - time to dig out those SDcards and the Asus 701SD 7“ laptop.

Is it easy to change the setup script / instructions so that 4gig SDcards might be used?
(Will eliminate the shopping trip for 8gig SD cards)

Hope to use one of the faster mirrors for download soon.

Does anyone know of a good guide that explains in simple noob terms - how one goes about booting Q6 or any other puppy when using a W8 crippled laptop with UEFI ?

Have access to one for about a week - then it has to go back.

Thank you BarryK for sharing your quirky idea’s with us - I (we) think they are brilliant - thanks again.

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ally


Joined: 19 May 2012
Posts: 856
Location: lincoln

PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2013, 10:40    Post_subject:  

ray

quirky 6 is going up to the archive now, should be ready in about 15mins

http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_Quirky

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bigpup


Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 5253
Location: Charleston S.C. USA

PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2013, 11:48    Post_subject:  

Barry K wrote:
It is very important to understand that I, Barry Kauler, am "retired" and only doing this for fun. I do not provide much support, and do not claim that any release of Quirky6 is a highly polished and bug-free product. it is released as-is.

However, I will probably release some incremental upgrades, with improvements. Besides, there are still a lot of items in my "goals" list that are not yet green!

So, don't bother much with reporting bugs to my news page, or if you do, don't hold your breath waiting for a fix. There is likely, however, to be a group of users who will cooperate to fix any issues -- any such forum thread I will announce on my news page.

So, keep watching my news page for future developments:

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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2138
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2013, 12:01    Post_subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Billtoo,
That is strange that you get the popup every time that you start SeaMonkey. I have tested that, and it only came up once.

There is a script, /usr/bin/seamonkey, that destroys itself after the first run, replacing itself with a symlink to /usr/lib/seamonkey/seamonkey.

Well, you can probably fix it by forcing a symlink, like this:

Code:
# ln -snf /usr/lib/seamonkey/seamonkey /usr/bin/seamonkey


Quirky 6.0 announcement
Here is the announcement on my blog:

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00024


I applied your fix for the Seamonkey popup and it worked.

I made a few pets and find the the new2dir takes a long time to create
a pet.
xfe-1.37-i686.pet,xfe_DOC-1.37-i686.pet,xfe_NLS-1.37-i686.pet +
fox-1.6.49-i686.pet,fox_DEV-1.6.49-i686.pet,and
fox_DOC-1.6.49-i686.pet must have taken close to 2 hours, seemed like it did anyway Smile
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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2138
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2013, 13:21    Post_subject: My report on Quirky 6.0  

I installed to an 8gb SDHC card, computer is an emachines D620 laptop.

Summary
Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Memory 1812MB (48MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Quirky - 6.0
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sun 15 Dec 2013 01:01:43 PM EST
Display
Resolution 1280x800 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 3.12.2 (i686)
Version #1 SMP Thu Dec 5 03:05:44 WST 2013
C Library GNU C Library version 2.17 (stable)
Distribution Quirky - 6.0
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)

I made most of the pets in the screenshot, not tas or icewm themes,
but they all work in Quirky 6.0 so I could upload them if you'd like
them and give me a pm with instructions on how/where?

I get the Seamonkey popup on this pc too.
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Puppus Dogfellow


Joined: 07 Jan 2013
Posts: 621
Location: nyc

PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2013, 14:00    Post_subject:  

Quirky 6.0 stuff mirrored: [gdisk, quirky6-6.0-8gb.img.xz, write-quirky-image-to-drive, woof-installed-packages.txt,
install qrky6 to partition scrpt, devx_quirky_6.0.sfs]

sha1sums.txt:

68548eb27308ab097f8295e321e1b2bfecea77a8 devx_quirky_6.0.sfs
fa68c550624e7d965591017f530b8a783d57f510 gdisk
8e1c8f7121b3d47d1abbd45071f6c6f70ecde927 quirky6-6.0-8gb.img.xz
4ce831de896738689843b219d4e2fd5b34206ea2 woof-installed-packages
3354939b080fb49792379feb469b188cfea1f2d5 write-quirky-image-to-drive


edit: 6.01 (etc) mirrored


611 and all future updates: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByUDhE3nQF8uUkE3MWhqNjF3dEU&usp=sharing

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KJ

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
Posts: 176
Location: Above sea level .. about 320m

PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2013, 18:13    Post_subject: SD card lock  

Billtoo....At the risk of asking the most stupid question of the year....Will Quirky 6.0 run with your SD card in the "locked" position? I guess "no" is the answer but I can hope...would provide a "kiosk" mode similar to what one can obtain running most pups from a frugal install to SD . Thanks....KJ
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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 2138
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sun 15 Dec 2013, 21:23    Post_subject: Re: SD card lock  

KJ wrote:
Billtoo....At the risk of asking the most stupid question of the year....Will Quirky 6.0 run with your SD card in the "locked" position? I guess "no" is the answer but I can hope...would provide a "kiosk" mode similar to what one can obtain running most pups from a frugal install to SD . Thanks....KJ


It won't bootup with the card in the locked position, I just tried it.
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5892
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2013, 02:51    Post_subject:  

Barry K just released a script to install Quirky 6.0 to a regular harddrive
http://bkhome.org/news/?viewCat=Quirky

Full install of Quirky 6.0 on sda11 on an old test desktop using an ext3 partition.Everything working on initial boot.This thing is fast..... Smile

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 6.0

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe extmod fb kbd mouse shadow

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video


-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory : 2065MB (122MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Quirky - 6.0
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 16 Dec 2013 01:02:13 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.12.2 (i686)
Version : #1 SMP Thu Dec 5 03:05:44 WST 2013
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.17 (stable)
Distribution : Quirky - 6.0

Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2065700       277068      1788632            0         7168
-/+ buffers:             269900      1795800
Swap:      2150396            0      2150396
#



Code:
PUPMODE=2
PDEV1='sda11'
DEV1FS='ext3'
#ATADRIVES is all internal ide/pata/sata drives, excluding optical, excluding usb...
ATADRIVES='sda '
#ATAOPTICALDRIVES is list of non-usb optical drives...
ATAOPTICALDRIVES='sr0 '
PUP_HOME='/'
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5892
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2013, 03:40    Post_subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Billtoo,
That is strange that you get the popup every time that you start SeaMonkey. I have tested that, and it only came up once.


I only got the popup the first time I started SeaMonkey as well........ none since.
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Deacon


Joined: 19 Mar 2013
Posts: 65

PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2013, 03:42    Post_subject: Re: My report on Quirky 6.0  

Billtoo wrote:

My wireless works now.


Good to know.

I downloaded and installed 5.99 and the wireless didn't work, only to discover there was a page two on the thread with 6.0 released yesterday.

Too much work on the hard drive today for other reasons. Will report tomorrow.
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James C


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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2013, 03:51    Post_subject:  

Seems quicker.....boots to a full desktop in about 11 seconds and shuts down in 4 seconds. Measured with the second hand on my watch so totally accurate ...... Laughing
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BarryK
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Posts: 7060
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Dec 2013, 03:51    Post_subject:  

Ray MK,
At first I did create a 4GB image, but then I went to my local shopping mall and found the minimum size in all the shops is 8GB.

So, I decided that is to be the minimum.

Billtoo,
Your SeaMonkey popup problem has me extremely puzzled.
The script /usr/bin/seamonkey destroys itself, I don't see how it ca fail to do so.
I guess that I will just have to put in some extra code so that it makes sure that it does definitely destroy itself and create the symlink.

Were all of those PETs compiled in Quirky 6.0?

I will setup an FTP url for you to upload them to. Perhaps those definitely compiled in Q6 can be put into 'pet-quirky6' repo, the others, tested as working, could go i a different repo, maybe 'pet-common'.

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