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2.11 loading hangs after choosing Xvesa OR Xorg (Solved!)
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designengineer

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 10:20    Post subject:  2.11 loading hangs after choosing Xvesa OR Xorg (Solved!)  

Toshiba Portege 3110CT laptop
Mobile Pentium II 300MHz
192mb RAM
6.4GB HD
10.4 TFT 800x600 display
Trident Cyber 9525 Video
2.5MB Video Ram
ESSES1978 Sound Controller
Typell x2 Cardbus PC Card Controller

Everything installs fine until I am asked to pick Xvesa or Xorg. After choosing either one, it just sits there with a blinking cursor. I left it set for 1 hour each time, and it never went forward. It will respond to keystrokes (ctrl-alt-del), but never gets past that screen.
I am a total newbie to Linux and would appreciate any help. I have used Puppy on my desktop just fine and I have tried both 2.11 versions with and without the extended Xorg settings, so I feel comfortable it is not a defective disk.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 10:55    Post subject:  

It is a problem that you are new to Linux, as the solution is a bit complicated.

The Xserver (xorg) uses a configurationfile

/etc/X11/xorg.conf

Puppys wizard does not detect your card correct, so you must replace this config with this one:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/configurations/trident-cyber9525dvd/xorg.conf

But how do you do it as newbee?
If you have windows installed, try this:
download it to c:\

Then boot Puppy, and type these commands:

mkdir /mnt/hda1
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
cp -ax /mnt/hda1/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
rm -f /usr/X11R7/bin/X
ln -s /usr/X11R7/bin/Xorg /usr/X11R7/bin/X

Finally try to start X:
xwin

If something does not work, write down the error-messages you get, and post them here.

Mark

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 10:55    Post subject: Re: 2.11 loading hangs after choosing Xvesa OR Xorg  

designengineer wrote:
Toshiba Portege 3110CT laptop
Mobile Pentium II 300MHz
192mb RAM
6.4GB HD
10.4 TFT 800x600 display
Trident Cyber 9525 Video
2.5MB Video Ram
ESSES1978 Sound Controller
Typell x2 Cardbus PC Card Controller

Everything installs fine until I am asked to pick Xvesa or Xorg. After choosing either one, it just sits there with a blinking cursor. I left it set for 1 hour each time, and it never went forward. It will respond to keystrokes (ctrl-alt-del), but never gets past that screen.
I am a total newbie to Linux and would appreciate any help. I have used Puppy on my desktop just fine and I have tried both 2.11 versions with and without the extended Xorg settings, so I feel comfortable it is not a defective disk.


You will need to manually edit the xorg.conf file to make Puppy work on your laptop....

These threads about LCD screens should point you in the right direction.
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=8535&highlight=
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=5181&highlight=
You also need to know the exact hardware on your laptop beside the display type and memory..
IE the max display Horizontal/Vertical refresh rates, and color depth (8,15,16,24 bit)

I have set it up on quite a few olderlaptops, and it is awsome, it makes Windoze look silly.. Rolling Eyes

Bob Cool
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 11:01    Post subject:  

And you will need the Iso with additional xorg-drivers, like:
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/puppylinux/puppy-2.11-seamonkey-xorgdrvrs.iso

but NOT:
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/puppylinux/puppy-2.11-seamonkey.iso

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 11:35    Post subject:  

MU wrote:
And you will need the Iso with additional xorg-drivers, like:
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/puppylinux/puppy-2.11-seamonkey-xorgdrvrs.iso

but NOT:
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/puppylinux/puppy-2.11-seamonkey.iso

Mark


Thanks MU, I missed that one... Rolling Eyes

I am used to 2.10, I haven't had a chance to use 2.11 yet. Shocked

Bob Cool
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designengineer

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 11:42    Post subject:  

I AM using puppy-2.11-seamonkey-xorgdrvrs.iso . I tried puppy-2.11-seamonkey.iso just for grins but no dice. That is why I came here to you gurus.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 11:50    Post subject:  

MU wrote:

But how do you do it as newbee?
If you have windows installed, try this:
download it to c:\

Then boot Puppy, and type these commands:

Mark


Download what? The configuration file you linked to? If so, as what kind of file?
Just for reference, I have loaded the Puppy files an my harddrive on a FAT partition and boot from Loadlin (described howto somewhere in the depths of this forum) But I can also boot from my USB CD. I can load any files needed to the same partition on my harddrive without any problems, I just need to know what files, and in what format and where.
Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 11:53    Post subject:  

yes, the linked file.
It has the extension .conf , so it is a textfile.
You can save it in windows with a right-click -> save as.


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 12:10    Post subject:  

Ok, I see that. Had a brain fart. Did not realize it was a linked file, thought it was a web page with text.
Since this is still new for me, let me go over this again so I have it straight.
I have two partitions on my harddrive, a NTFS (WindowsXP) and a FAT. I have Puppy 2.11 copied on there and can boot to that drive from Loadlin (Windows boot floppy, to get me into the FAT directory, then a batch file that starts Loadlin which starts Puppy) Loadlin uses a text file that has a configuration setup in it called options.txt. This text file has this in it.
vmlinuz
root=/dev/ram
rw
initrd=initrd.gz
vga=normal
ramdisk_size=100000
init=/etc/init
lang=es
apm=power-off
nomce
noapic
noacpi
noscsi
quiet
BOOT_IMAGE=pup_211.sfs


It loads amazingly fast until the video stuff. Since I cannot get past that, how then can I

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Then boot Puppy, and type these commands:

mkdir /mnt/hda1
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
cp -ax /mnt/hda1/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
rm -f /usr/X11R7/bin/X
ln -s /usr/X11R7/bin/Xorg /usr/X11R7/bin/X

Finally try to start X:
xwin


Is Puppy running at that point? Please explain a little more.
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 12:48    Post subject: Re: 2.11 loading hangs after choosing Xvesa OR Xorg  

Read my 1st thread, you need to change in to the second console, login as root-no password, and type xorgconfig at the prompt....
My preveous post's 1st thread has better details....

Once you edit xorg.conf , save it, you type xwin at the prompt and if you selected the correct settings, your GUI for Puppy will come up...

Bob Cool
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 12:52    Post subject:  

can't you enter these commands at the blinking cursor?
If not, try this:
press CTRL-ALT-F2

This switches to a second console.
Enter
root
to login.
No password required, so hit "enter" when it asks for it.
Now you should be able to enter the commands.

Mark
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 13:09    Post subject:  

I will try it this evening when I get home. Thanks and I will post how it went.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 13:28    Post subject:  

ok, good luck Smile
keep us informed.
Mark
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designengineer

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 20:09    Post subject:  

Success! I am typing this from my laptop right now. I did the xorg wizard and it worked.
I have one question. My USB mouse does not work initially. I have to use the mouse wizard, but the next time I boot, it does not work again. How can I save that setting?

Again, I thank you for helping me turn an old slow dog into a bullet fast Puppy.

Greg
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Oct 2006, 20:16    Post subject:  

Yay, Mark and Bob! What teamwork. Very Happy
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