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musher0


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Nov 2013, 21:34    Post subject:  

Hi, rerwin.

You wrote:
> The only differences from the 20131120 versions are the addition
of the 'usb-devices' script, needed to obtain USB device information in
lupusuper and later kernels (...)


I'm writing this from your sulu_001 from last month. If you posted the
added script, would it be enough for me to copy/paste it in a certain
folder? Or do I need to D/L the whole ISO?

Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Nov 2013, 21:50    Post subject:  

Lupusuper-5.2.8.6-k3.0.25-2131124

I tried mounting Slacko 5.6 sfs file and it opens with no problem.

This version of Lupu will not recognize my Netgear n150 USB wireless network adapter.
The needed module is loaded, but no wlan0 showing in network manager.
Works fine in Lupu3HD

That is one step forward and one step back. Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Nov 2013, 00:08    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
I'm writing this from your sulu_001 from last month. If you posted the
added script, would it be enough for me to copy/paste it in a certain
folder? Or do I need to D/L the whole ISO?
Only if that's all you want from the 20131124 version. But you would miss the additions since your (20131012) version. The "difference" I mean is between 20131120 and 20131124. The newer version includes the changes that went into 30131120, but no 3hd/super ISOs were made for that version.

The file is /usr/sbin/usb-devices and nothing more. Copy it from the new super or 3hd or even a precise pup (which is where I got it).

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Nov 2013, 00:18    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Lupusuper-5.2.8.6-k3.0.25-2131124
This version of Lupu will not recognize my Netgear n150 USB wireless network adapter.
The needed module is loaded, but no wlan0 showing in network manager.
Works fine in Lupu3HD
bigpup, thanks for testing with lupusuper. Could you obtain a pdiag file from lupusuper when you see that wireless is not working. Maybe there is a clue in there somewhere. You can just attach it to a PM to me (if you don't want to post it).

(pdiag can be run from a console or from the frisbee diagnostic dialog window.)
Richard

EDIT 11/25: Are you sure you are using lupusuper-5.2.8.6-k3.0.25-2131124? At this time I see "0" as the download count for that ISO file.
R

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Nov 2013, 01:54    Post subject:  

Fresh frugal install of latest THD (2.6.37.6).
Small bug first...... The drivers tab in Quickpet downloaded the incorrect Nvidia driver for this kernel.See Screenie.
Actually didn't notice until the download was almost complete.....obviously wouldn't work. Correct Nvidia driver now installed from my repo.
wrong driver.jpg
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Nov 2013, 01:58    Post subject:  

Otherwise, no problems so far.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Three-Headed_Dog, version 001

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe glx dri
Drivers requested to be loaded: nvidia

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse ramdac record

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
5916 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1183.155 FPS
6020 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1203.940 FPS
5989 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1197.753 FPS
5865 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1172.905 FPS
5940 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1187.909 FPS
5876 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1174.926 FPS
5755 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1150.891 FPS


-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (185MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 25 Nov 2013 12:11:20 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
Version : 1.7.6
-Monitors-
Monitor 0 : 1440x900 pixels

-OpenGL-
Vendor : NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer : GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
Version : 1.5.8 NVIDIA 96.43.19
Direct Rendering : Yes
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Nov 2013, 16:42    Post subject:  

Took the latest update for a spin and is very usable and noticeably faster than other recent puppies. Good job updating it!
You may want to also add the latest version of PPM. It can search multiple repost simultaneously. does a better job with dependencies and can search with partial names with multiple search terms and even searches in the descriptions.
Certainly worth updating.
I tried it with 20131120 and works fine

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Nov 2013, 18:07    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
You may want to also add the latest version of PPM. It can search multiple repost simultaneously. does a better job with dependencies and can search with partial names with multiple search terms and even searches in the descriptions.
Certainly worth updating.
I tried it with 20131120 and works fine
That is good news. The extensive changes to it "scared me off" from including it. Where do I find the pet package for it, assuming there is one?

EDIT: I suspect there is no package, that it is just part of puppy. So, when you add PPM to lupu, exactly which directories and files are you including as the complete component? /usr/local/petget/ seems to be the main set of files. Anything beyond that?
Richard
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Nov 2013, 19:59    Post subject:  

Hello, rerwin.

Frugally installed your latest sulu.

For a few seconds there, I thought this sulu had the pusave-creation bug.
For a few long moments, the shutdownconfig stood still, checked /mnt/fd0,
but realized that the pupsave was to be created on the eSATA drive. Phew!

The mid-October sulu version didn't hesitate at all in detecting the eSATA
drive as /dev/sda, and went straight to /mnt/sda2/sulu-5.2.8.6 to create
the pupsave file.

As a second test, I imported my big production pupsave for the October
sulu to my new November sulu folder and booted with it.

It did mess up my desktop icons, but that's an ordinary Puppy "feature"
in this situation.

What I found uncool, though, is that it warned me that I would have to
remove a couple of pets that I have created for pinboard management,
etc., if I wanted to use the PPM. I tested the PPM, it loads normally, and
I don't need -- nor want! -- to delete the pets I created. Thanks in
advance for any explanation.

Aside from the details above, my big production pupsave runs as it did
under the October sulu.

So, all in all, this update is ok. Good job, rerwin! BFN.

musher0

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Nov 2013, 00:28    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
What I found uncool, though, is that it warned me that I would have to
remove a couple of pets that I have created for pinboard management,
etc., if I wanted to use the PPM. I tested the PPM, it loads normally, and
I don't need -- nor want! -- to delete the pets I created. Thanks in
advance for any explanation.
Thanks for reporting this "false alarm." The script that makes that check only compares package names and versions between the user-installed-packages file and the woof-installed-packages file. It compares versions so as to avoid recommending uninstalling later packages.

But it assumes the package names are in the form of packagename-x.x.x.xversionnumber. We know that not all names get formatted that way, so mistakes will occur. That is why I include in parentheses the name of the now-built-in package that the user-installed package appears to be a same-or-older version of. I encourage users to compare the names to be sure they actually refer to the same base package, and to ignore the warning if they are different.

So that I might improve the comparison logic, could you tell us your package names that were incorrectly assumed to conflict with something included in sulu? And what implied that the conflict involved the PPM? I am open to softening the wording of the message or adding to it -- suggestions are welcome.

Thanks for your help.
Richard
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Nov 2013, 01:14    Post subject:  

rerwin wrote:
So, when you add PPM to lupu, exactly which directories and files are you including as the complete component? /usr/local/petget/ seems to be the main set of files. Anything beyond that?
Richard

Indeed I used the files directly from (various places in) the woof-CE tree but copying /usr/local/petget from precise-5.7.1 will do.
Just drop 'invaliddeplist', since I believe is precise-specific.
Luci also has 'findwoofinstalledpkgs.sh' in its /usr/local/petget which I left there though as far as I can see is not used by PPM anywhere.
You will also need 'mini-trash.xpm' and 'mini-exit.xpm' from /usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons of another recent puppy.

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Nov 2013, 02:19    Post subject:  

rerwin wrote:
bigpup wrote:
Lupusuper-5.2.8.6-k3.0.25-2131124
This version of Lupu will not recognize my Netgear n150 USB wireless network adapter.
The needed module is loaded, but no wlan0 showing in network manager.
Works fine in Lupu3HD
bigpup, thanks for testing with lupusuper. Could you obtain a pdiag file from lupusuper when you see that wireless is not working. Maybe there is a clue in there somewhere. You can just attach it to a PM to me (if you don't want to post it).

EDIT 11/25: Are you sure you are using lupusuper-5.2.8.6-k3.0.25-2131124? At this time I see "0" as the download count for that ISO file.
R

New download of lupusuper-5.2.8.6-k3.0.25-2131124.
New fresh frugal install.
Network wizard does not list a wlan0
Module that is needed by this USB wireless adapter is:
ath9k-htc usb
This module shows as loaded.

From Lupu3hd working wireless connection:
Quote:
Manufacturer=NETGEAR WNA
Product=WNA1100
Driver=ath9k_hif_usb

Attached pdiag from lupusuper-5.2.8.6-k3.0.25-2131124
pdiag-20131126.tar.gz
Description 
gz

 Download 
Filename  pdiag-20131126.tar.gz 
Filesize  118.67 KB 
Downloaded  83 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Nov 2013, 05:54    Post subject:  

rerwin wrote:
musher0 wrote:
What I found uncool, though, is that it warned me that I would have to
remove a couple of pets that I have created for pinboard management,
etc., if I wanted to use the PPM. I tested the PPM, it loads normally, and
I don't need -- nor want! -- to delete the pets I created. Thanks in
advance for any explanation.
Thanks for reporting this "false alarm." The script that makes that check only compares package names and versions between the user-installed-packages file and the woof-installed-packages file. It compares versions so as to avoid recommending uninstalling later packages.

But it assumes the package names are in the form of packagename-x.x.x.xversionnumber. We know that not all names get formatted that way, so mistakes will occur. That is why I include in parentheses the name of the now-built-in package that the user-installed package appears to be a same-or-older version of. I encourage users to compare the names to be sure they actually refer to the same base package, and to ignore the warning if they are different.

So that I might improve the comparison logic, could you tell us your package names that were incorrectly assumed to conflict with something included in sulu? And what implied that the conflict involved the PPM? I am open to softening the wording of the message or adding to it -- suggestions are welcome.

Thanks for your help.
Richard


Hi, rerwin.

It's nothing at all.

The names of those files appeared rather fleetingly (in my perception at
least). I remember "desksetup" and my own "Triangles" pet. The names
showed up with version numbers, I think. Sorry I cannot be more precise.

BFN.

musher0

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Nov 2013, 13:33    Post subject:  

This has been added to the beginning of the first message in this Lucid 5.2.8 thread. Congratulations to rerwin, along with his helpers, Bigpup, shinobar, radky, mavrothal, and many others who worked on the original development of Lucid and some who are new.

This is the last version of Lucid Puppy coordinated by playdayz. Forum member rerwin has prepared an updated version named 5.2.8.6, which contains numerous updates, including the Puppy programs such as Pmusic, Pburn, and PupControl, etc., along with advances in hardware detection and drivers, as well as many updates in the basic infrastructure of all Puppies that have been introduced since the last version of Lucid. There are download links plus links to complete descriptions of the changes at the new page for Lucid 5.2.8.6. -> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90461
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov 2013, 00:13    Post subject:  

bigpup,
Thanks for the pdiag file. The module loaded in sulu is ath9k_htc. It also is in 3HD. But I see in the messages log:
Code:
Nov 27 04:44:23 puppypc user.err kernel: [   20.974540] usb 1-2: ath9k_htc: Firmware - htc_9271.fw not found
Nov 27 04:44:23 puppypc user.warn kernel: [   20.974557] ath9k_htc: probe of 1-2:1.0 failed with error -22
Nov 27 04:44:23 puppypc user.info kernel: [   20.974598] usbcore: registered new interface driver ath9k_htc
So, the required firmware is missing. In 3HD, when you search /var/log/messages for "ath9k_htc", what messages do you see? A pdiag from your 3HD test might be helpful.
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