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darkcity


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov 2013, 07:40    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
Angel Linux based on Puppy is on DistroWatch now.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/angellinux/
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20131118#waiting

I don't trust that I have tested it. Are the Developer of
Angel "Puppy" Linux active on Murga forum?


Was posted on reddit too, apparently it has many emulators - reminds me of arcade puppy.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov 2013, 20:30    Post subject: HowTo install live Lubuntu onto usb stick from Puppy Precise
Subject description: needed this for a multi-user PostgreSQL business application		  
Lubuntu from live installation (with persistence) onto usb stick (needs PAE capable CPU to boot this - google fake-PAE for possible workarounds)

Used Puppy Precise 5.6.1 to undertake the lubuntu installation as follows:

1. Downloaded linux 32bit lubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso from http://lubuntu.net

2. I used Gparted to create three partitions on my 16 GB usb drive, which on my system appeared as /dev/sdb... when plugged in (was very IMPORTANT to double check this was the desired target usb stick...):

/dev/sdb1 1 GB ext2 primary partition
(Once you have made all the partitions, right-click on this first partition and select Manage Flags and checkbox boot to make it bootable)
/dev/sdb2 14 GB ext2 primary partition - used required-for-persistence special volume label casper-rw
/dev/sdb3 1 GB fat32 primary partition

EDIT (27Nov13): Actually, you need to arrange for the FAT32 partition to be partition 1 instead or MS windows won't see it and want to format your usb stick. I forgot about that. Also, it is a good idea to partition usb drives more carefully to help prolong their lifetime and perhaps make them faster in operation. I don't know how accurate it is but there is an article about that here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_Damage_a_FLASH_Storage_Device. I haven't had any problems so far though, even though I have just been partitioning any old way...

NOTES:
I made the unnecessary FAT32 partition just so I could easily move files between linux and MSwindows systems.
The sizes of the partitions isn't important as long as partition 1 is large enough to store the contents from the lubuntu iso. Most any usb flash stick of size 1 GB or over can thus be used for installing lubuntu in this manner.

3. I installed the syslinux mbr.bin bootloader onto the UNMOUNTED usb stick (again double checked /dev/sdb really was the usb stick first!):

Code:

dd if=/usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/sdb bs=446 count=1


NOTE: That on Puppy Precise 5.6.1 the syslinux boot code mbr.bin can be found at location /usr/lib/syslinux. On some other systems it is sometimes found at /usr/share/syslinux.

4. I then mounted the first partition, /dev/sdb1 and installed the extlinux ldlinux.sys boot loader code onto that, by using command:

Code:

# extlinux -i /mnt/sdb1


4. I then copied all files and directories (including any hidden ones) from the lbuntu iso to that same mounted partition (/mnt/sdb1).

i.e. Using Rox filemanager:

Open the contents of the lubuntu iso by clicking on it, show hidden files in Rox, and then copy all lubuntu iso contents over to your mounted /mnt/sdb1.

5. On /mnt/sdb1 I then made a txt file called extlinux.conf containing following:

Code:

default /casper/vmlinuz
append initrd=/casper/initrd.lz file=/cdrom/preseed/lubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash -- persistent


Above is for booting from usb from the installed extlinux. However, I also boot the stick from another machine that has a BIOS that doesn't boot usb. In its case, I boot the usb stick from the 'already installed to harddrive' grub4dos mbr with the menu.lst lines:

Code:

title lubuntu frugal on sdb1
kernel (hd1,0)/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper  noeject noprompt splash persistent --
initrd (hd1,0)/casper/initrd.lz boot


Note that because the second partition on my usb has volume label "casper-rw", which lubuntu looks for, that automatically provides persistence between reboots (i.e. any filesystem changes or work stored during lubuntu use get automatically saved there and, similar to pup-save, appear automatically in filesystem tree on reboot).
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 24 Nov 2013, 04:37    Post subject:  
James C wrote:
Another little side project.....Debian Sid w/ LXDE ,the latest Iceweasel ,Gnome MPlayer and Synaptic. This version is 463 mb.
Something to do when I can't sleep..... Laughing

Code:
Wed Nov 20 03:24:34 CST 2013
james@lxde:~$ uname -r
3.11-5.towo-siduction-686
james@lxde:~$


Just doing a bit of upgrading.......

Code:
Sun Nov 24 02:43:16 CST 2013
james@lxde:~$ uname -r
3.12-1.towo-siduction-686
james@lxde:~$


......trying to add the desired applications while keeping things as small as possible.


Code:
Sun Nov 24 02:54:18 CST 2013
james@lxde:~$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       2585480     526304    2059176          0       2428     216112
-/+ buffers/cache:     307764    2277716
Swap:      4198396          0    4198396
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anikin

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Nov 2013, 10:05    Post subject: JWM/Rox Debian  
James C,
A while ago you posted a picture of JWM/Rox Debian in another thread. I'm curious to know if that was an OOTB user choice, or your own effort? I suspect the latter - if so - how hard is that to implement? One more, have you ever attempted installing JWM/Rox in Porteus - is it doable?

Thank you in advance.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Nov 2013, 14:11    Post subject: Re: JWM/Rox Debian  
anikin wrote:
James C,
A while ago you posted a picture of JWM/Rox Debian in another thread. I'm curious to know if that was an OOTB user choice, or your own effort? I suspect the latter - if so - how hard is that to implement? One more, have you ever attempted installing JWM/Rox in Porteus - is it doable?


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=733136#733136

I don't have a lot of free time at the moment so that was just a quick proof of concept using Debian packages and apt-get.Getting to the point shown in the picture was dead simple.
Haven't really thought about trying in Porteus but should be possible .
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov 2013, 01:49    Post subject:  
Another different install....... Watt OS r7.5.

http://www.planetwatt.com/

Code:
james@james-DK214A-ABA-S4020WM-NA210:~$ uname -r
3.8.0-31-generic
james@james-DK214A-ABA-S4020WM-NA210:~$
Watt OS.png
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Watt OS.png
Watt OS r75 Microwatt.jpg
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 Filesize   29 KB
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Watt OS r75 Microwatt.jpg
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2013, 12:37    Post subject:  
Small moan I'm afraid. Mint 15, basically a very good distro, has defaulted to the Ubuntu desktop (Unity?) on my machine, so I've got a long column of icons on my desktop but no menus - the very thing I chose Mint over Ubuntu to get away from.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2013, 18:02    Post subject:  
James C I trust that you did a full install to get
Another different install....... Watt OS r7.5. working?

I've tested many many times to do frugal instal of the live iso
but failed. Guess it needs continue memory and mine fragmented.

If you did a frugal install on NTFS then please share the menu.lst
code?
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2013, 18:42    Post subject:  
Macpup 5.28v2 .. Lucid based .. kernel 2.6.33.2 .. Works on just about everything.
Puppy 5.28.6 .. Lucid based .. kernel 2.6.37.6
Dpup Wheeze 5.28 (Debian 7.2) -- My primary OS

Debain 7.2 -- Rock Soild, unlimited Repositories
Sparky Linux (Debian)

Manjaro (Arch) -- Really enjoy this distro
Linux Mint
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov 2013, 18:45    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
James C I trust that you did a full install to get
Another different install....... Watt OS r7.5. working?


Yes,regular full install on an ext4 partition. I'll leave the frugal installs on NTFS to you...... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 03:51    Post subject:  
James C wrote:
nooby wrote:
James C I trust that you did a full install to get
Another different install....... Watt OS r7.5. working?


Yes,regular full install on an ext4 partition. I'll leave the frugal installs on NTFS to you...... Laughing


Haha that would be like set or putting the hungry Red Fox to guard the Hens. Smile

I get back soon wanting to test something I downloaded but need some rest now I edit this entry and tell result of that test.

It is named AP-Linux-V2. What on earth is that? I have no clue
has any of you tested it?
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Nov 2013, 15:02    Post subject:  
Maybe to test this first? "Tiny" CorePlus-5.1.iso (71.0MB,
includes flwm, JWM, IceWM, Fluxbox, Hackedbox, Openbox).

Wow so many choices of X?

Tiny Core is beyond me to use due to my brain fail to cope
with too many details so I hope many of you get motivated
to check it out Smile

The download from the DW link took way too long time for my taste.
distro.iblio seems very overloaded and not good at delivering isos.

Wish they had mirrors like the Netherland ones
http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/5.x/x86/release/CorePlus-5.1.iso
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec 2013, 05:27    Post subject:  
Nanolinux is a Beta quality based on Microcore
that is a basic version of Tinycore. Nano is 14 mb

and it use Dillo but I trust one can download FF from TinyCore

I have not tested it I am lazy this week most likely so maybe
somebody else feel for telling us their impression of Nano.

the name at least is very cute Smile
http://sourceforge.net/projects/nanolinux/
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec 2013, 17:18    Post subject:  
I have an antiX 13.1 installtion on a PII machine i have. Since it does support my USB wireless device it would work but I guess not. probably because the divice is usb2 and the MB has usb1.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec 2013, 18:58    Post subject:  
bark_bark_bark wrote:
I have an antiX 13.1 installtion on a PII machine i have. Since it does support my USB wireless device it would work but I guess not. probably because the divice is usb2 and the MB has usb1.

USB interface has backward compatibility. You can attach USB2 device to USB1 host.
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