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#1041 Post by Marv »

Geoffrey wrote: I'll upload lina-1.1.iso___lina-1.1-non-pae.iso.delta, md5 a4010986da66baa4e74c9a05b8da5bf8
if you have downloaded Carolina 1.1 that will give you what you want, the resulting ISO will be lina-1.1-non-pae.iso md5 3b9a73016b20426eda4fbdb60d5d5bcc
http://smokey01.com/carolina/isos/non-p ... .iso.delta
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non-PAE iso generated, files slipped into the Grub4Dos kennel with the Carolina 1.0 savefile (and adrive hidden for first boot). Smooth as could be. savefile updated. Panel, glibc update, my retroretroretro Default-4.0 xfce theme, SlimBoat and Opera .desktops pointing to the installs on boot partition all there, and it's up and running. Guess I'm 1.1'd
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#1042 Post by starhawk »

...crap...

Managed to download the PAE ver by mistake >.< I'll grab the non-PAE in the morning and try it then.

Had fun with the VAIO -- the RAM was in backwards -- top module should've been in the bottom slot, and bottom in top. Wouldn't boot till I swapped 'em. Gave me a bit of a run for it, it did...

EDIT -- more crap. The only non-PAE version is a 20mb delta file >.< can someone make a non-PAE ISO of Carolina 1.1? I really don't want to mess with swapping CDs or unetbootin or mucking up the HDD further (it's almost dead as-is).

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#1043 Post by Geoffrey »

starhawk wrote:...crap...

Managed to download the PAE ver by mistake >.< I'll grab the non-PAE in the morning and try it then.

Had fun with the VAIO -- the RAM was in backwards -- top module should've been in the bottom slot, and bottom in top. Wouldn't boot till I swapped 'em. Gave me a bit of a run for it, it did...
The PAE version runs on my acer aspire 5310 Intel Celeron M 1.73 GHz.
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#1044 Post by Geoffrey »

I thought I'd try slimboat, I found it to be slow and on a google image search didn't load correctly, see image, that made me feel a little like the two cats on the far right :? :evil: :wink:
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#1045 Post by starhawk »

Yours is one of the fancier Celeron M's.

Mine is a Pentium M 1.7GHz, with a 400MHz Front-Side Bus. (Specifically it's an SL7EP -- look it up on CPUworld.) It's a PAE-incompatible chip.

Yours is a Celeron M 530 -- Socket M but just barely -- 533MHz Front-Side Bus. Don't know the SL# (there's a whole pile), but I'm told that any Pentium M or Celeron M with a 533MHz Front-Side Bus supports PAE automatically, and the ones with a 400MHz Front-Side Bus don't.

BTW your Celeron M was the last one marketed as a Celeron M, and the last one for Socket M. The later models were for Socket P (physically the same IIRC but electrically quite different) and were marketed as "Celeron" CPUs, not "Celeron M" CPUs. (Source for all this -- Wikipedia.)

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#1046 Post by Geoffrey »

starhawk wrote:EDIT -- more crap. The only non-PAE version is a 20mb delta file >.< can someone make a non-PAE ISO of Carolina 1.1? I really don't want to mess with swapping CDs or unetbootin or mucking up the HDD further (it's almost dead as-is).
I didn't want to upload a ISO for the Non-Pae as we found a few things we would like to change and that would mean uploading again, it's nothing overly important but will make it better for us to create different builds and still keep everything compatible, so if you do have the PAE version give it a try first.
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#1047 Post by starhawk »

I don't really have another spare system right now :( I guess I'll wait for the non-PAE version to be properly ironed and massaged and uploaded, then... any guess about how long it might be?

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#1048 Post by Geoffrey »

starhawk wrote:I don't really have another spare system right now :( I guess I'll wait for the non-PAE version to be properly ironed and massaged and uploaded, then... any guess about how long it might be?
I'd give it at lest a few days, as rg66 and myself live half a planet apart, so we're not that well synchronized.
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#1049 Post by Geoffrey »

lina-1.1-non-pae.iso has been uploaded, http://smokey01.com/carolina/isos/non-p ... on-pae.iso
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#1050 Post by rg66 »

Geoffrey and I have released Carolite-1.1, a lite version of Carolina based on non-pae. It weighs in at just under 150mb with a basic set of apps.

Adrive Apps
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mtpaint
ristretto
firefox
gnome-mplayer
xfburn
evince
geany
iso master
xarchiver

http://smokey01.com/carolina/isos/non-p ... te-1.1.iso
md5 a2d93ca60c1acda710e04ec0d39fd9c7
X-slacko-5b1 - X-tahr-2.0 - X-precise-2.4
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#1051 Post by Marv »

rg66 wrote:Geoffrey and I have released Carolite-1.1, a lite version of Carolina based on non-pae. It weighs in at just under 150mb with a basic set of apps.

http://smokey01.com/carolina/isos/non-p ... te-1.1.iso
md5 a2d93ca60c1acda710e04ec0d39fd9c7
Hi rg66,
Just for reference, is the main sfs file (puppy_lina_1.1.sfs) the same for Carolite and Carolina (both non-PAE of course)?
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#1052 Post by rg66 »

Marv wrote:Just for reference, is the main sfs file (puppy_lina_1.1.sfs) the same for Carolite and Carolina (both non-PAE of course)?
Thanks,
Hey Marv,

The main was modified a bit. I removed some wallpapers and a few apps but the main difference is that gconf and gnutls were moved to main so gvfs-smb works without the adrive. This will also happen to Carolina in v1.2
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#1053 Post by Marv »

Thanks,
I'll swap the Carolite sfs in as my core for now for testing.
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#1054 Post by Marv »

Geoffrey wrote:I thought I'd try slimboat, I found it to be slow and on a google image search didn't load correctly, see image, that made me feel a little like the two cats on the far right :? :evil: :wink:
Guess I'm slow enough so it doesn't seem slow to me :wink: My catz are all there :?:
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#1055 Post by Sage »

Carolite-1.1, a lite
Whoopie! Very much in tune with BK's new blog sentiments.
Excellent work chaps.

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#1056 Post by starhawk »

Small bug -- the boot splash for Carolite 1.1 advertises "Carolina 1.0 non pae" -- yet the SFS is "puppy_lina_1.1.sfs" -- might want to fix that.

Booting on the creaky old VAIO as I type this, tho :D

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#1057 Post by starhawk »

I'm gonna rate this as an 8/10 on this old VAIO. Detailed (ish) review thingy...

I found more bugs --

Icon-setter doesn't seem to work, the bottom tray blinks and that's all that happens. (Not that it matters with the icon-setter nonfunctional, but I hope somewhere I can get more icon themes... ;) )

The harp sound gets old fast. (Easily changed tho!) Perhaps 2barks.au would've been more... traditional? ;)

Speaking of sound, this thing is LOUD! (but that might be the VAIO) Also an easy fix to that issue ;)

I've never had much luck with Frisbee as my network manager (I tend to go with SNS) -- perhaps it would be good to put the old Connect Wizard back in? Also, since I'm *used to* looking for the Connect Wizard, it was really unintuitive no to have Frisbee at least in the Menu. Doubly so because the idea of clicking the icon to set up networking will be foreign to Windblows users as well...

HardInfo isn't here, so I can't report detailed info on the hardware on this old heap...

Some good things --

My cardbus four-port USB2 hub works :D this is very good since the VAIO's original two ports are long since shot. (They were used to death!)

Performance is pretty decent overall. The system is remarkably responsive, although Firefox does seem to tax it, and Flash has a problem -- Firefox asks to install it, and YouTube wants to upgrade it. But it works anyways... confusing.

Overall... not bad at all for a 2006ish "ultraportable" laptop!

Specs of the test system --

Sony VAIO VGN-S360
1.7GHz Pentium M CPU
1gb RAM (2x512 "MicroDIMMs")
120gb almost-dead HDD
CD-R/RW - DVD-ROM "Combo" Drive
ATI Mobility RADEON 9700 graphics chip ('radeon' driver)
13.3" 1280x800 screen
WiFi b/g Card (don't remember what kind, Frisbee autodetected it and won't tell me the driver)
4-port Cardbus USB2 Hub
~65w AC Adapter (16v 4a)

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#1058 Post by starhawk »

To avoid confusion, putting this in another post --

I have a system with the following specs; about how well could I expect it to run CaroLite 1.1?

VIA Eden 400MHz CPU
Integrated VIA Video (uses the openchrome driver IIRC)
1gb RAM
4gb CompactFlash card (in adapter) as hard drive
External CD drive when needed

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#1059 Post by rg66 »

@ starhawk

You're right, one of the splash screens is lina-1.0. Not sure how that got in there, I don't see it with frugal install so completely missed it.

There are two icon switchers, Control Panel > Desktop > Appearance > Icons tab is system icons, Control Panel > Desktop Icon Switcher is menu icons.

Hardinfo and flashplayer are not there, they can be dl'ed from the repo. It's not easy to get lina under 150mb and have everything everybody wants, it is a lite version after all.

1 GB RAM sounds ok but a 400Mhz CPU might be a bit weak, there's only one way to find out how well lite will run. I can't see it using much less resources than the full lina. LxTask: CPU-3% RAM-85mb at idle, with firefox running: CPU-10% RAM-160mb.

Thanks for the feedback.
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#1060 Post by Geoffrey »

Added a few Qt apps to the repo, there is a nice radio player greatlittleradioplayer-1.4.5-2.i386.pet with lots of stations to choose from and the look can be changed by changing coats.
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