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How to run Puppy from Windows NTFS partition
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drj

Joined: 26 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Jul 2005, 13:04    Post subject:  How to run Puppy from Windows NTFS partition  
OK, I finally made Puppy 1.0.3 working on NTFS partition. here comes step-by-step instructions how to do it:

Assumations:
1. Windows 2000/XP on the 1st partition of the 1st IDE disk (/dev/hda1)
2. NTFS used for Windows

What to do (all steps in Windows):
1. downloaded Puppy 1.0.3 ISO file
2. burn a live-CD or use WinISO to extract three files for the ISO file
usr_cram.fs to C:\
vmlinuz and image.gz to C:\boot\
3. download pup001.zip and unzip to C:\
4. download w32grub.zip and install it
5. copy and paste following into a file C:\boot\grub\menu.lst

default 0
timeout 0

title Puppy-1.0.3
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram PFILE=pup001-none-262144
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/image.gz
boot

6. run WinGrub GUI to install GRUB, an entry will be added to C:\boot.ini (a hiden file) as follows, or you can edit boot.ini manully

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect
C:\GRLDR="Puppy-1.0.3"


7. check all files are in place and reboot, and enjoy
GRLDR, pup001 and usr_cram.fs in C:\
vmlinuz and image.gz in C:\boot\
menu.lst in C:\boot\grub\

8. don't know how to move usr_cram.fs from C:\ to C:\boot\release, so that I can run multiple releases of Puppy. especially upcoming 1.0.4 has options to have different pup00? files (I guess I could modify rc.sysinit and remake a CD/image.gz). Anyway, it is good for now
w32grub.zip
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2005, 00:10    Post subject:  
Thanks, for that! Very Happy
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thoughtjourney

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Location: Sutton, NSW
PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2005, 09:52    Post subject:  
Thanks, drj.

I followed your instructions, and am coming to you live from WinXP pup. Well, sort of. I was able to boot from windows, but because I have a fat32 partition, puppy would create a pup001 file there, and would get upset that he couldn't find usr_cram.fs. I copied usr_cram.fs to the fat32 partition, and here I am. I shall give it a whirl on my hubby's pure XP laptop while he's asleep Wink

Good stuff!

BTW, for those of you who are newbies to Windows like me, I found this website useful when I couldn't find boot.ini:

http://hacks.oreilly.com/pub/h/2337

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drj

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2005, 11:11    Post subject:  
glad you liked it. yes, c:\boot.ini is a hiden file

shouldn't you be by his side while he is asleep? Smile

have a good day


thoughtjourney wrote:
Thanks, drj.

I shall give it a whirl on my hubby's pure XP laptop while he's asleep Wink
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2005, 11:51    Post subject:  
Quote:
shouldn't you be by his side while he is asleep?


That's the beauty of a laptop! I'm in bed right now Smile I should be actually working, but there is only so much I can do on the global tourism environment before going crazy. Besides, it's 2 am, and I wanted to get this up and running.

So, I am running puppy from a poor man's install on a winxp (ntfs) partition. Yay! This is really cool!

Thanks drj, guestoo, and the person who made the initial suggestion.

I'm off to install some funky themes![/quote]
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2005, 20:01    Post subject: Windows NFTS partition  
Maybe a good idea to put the info given by drj in the Wiki page

Well done drj
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jul 2005, 20:06    Post subject: Windows NTFS partition  
Correction to subject heading I meant NTFS not NFTS
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drj

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jul 2005, 09:39    Post subject: Re: Windows NFTS partition  
It is there, under FAQs/Installation

Stokey wrote:
Maybe a good idea to put the info given by drj in the Wiki page

Well done drj
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Mr Doolie

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jul 2005, 18:54    Post subject: Hot Dog it works!  
drj, you are my new best friend!
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drj

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jul 2005, 20:30    Post subject: Re: Hot Dog it works!  
glad to be of assistance to you. Wink

Mr Doolie wrote:
drj, you are my new best friend!
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2005, 07:12    Post subject: Hal.dll error  
This technique produces "missing or corrupt hal.dll" response during boot-time in Windows XP Home edition. What could be the problem Question
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drj

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2005, 09:38    Post subject: Re: Hal.dll error  
Google shew this:

If you get an error regarding a missing or corrupt hal.dll file, it might simply be the BOOT.INI file on the root of the C: drive that is misconfigured.

If possible, post your boot.ini here if you could not spot something obvious

raffy wrote:
This technique produces "missing or corrupt hal.dll" response during boot-time in Windows XP Home edition. What could be the problem Question
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2005, 16:13    Post subject: EUREKA !  
Problems solved - please see

http://www.ph-islands.net/pupinstall/winxp.php

Thanks to drj and all!
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jul 2005, 17:31    Post subject: Here's my boot.ini works fine  
[boot loader]
timeout=5
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect
c:\bootgrub="Puppy Linux (Note to self: GoBack must not be active)"
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Aug 2005, 09:30    Post subject: w98  
I noticed that you method works also under windows98 .
Get out of grub_for_dos_0.4.1pr22.tar.gz (somewhere on the internet) the files grub.exe and fat_stage_5 . Then put them in \boot\grub .
Make in your config.sys (hopefull a menu driven one) a extra menu :
Code:
[puppy]
install=c:\boot\grub\grub.exe

The menu.lst is the same for both . Greatings Menno
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