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Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 - Updated ISO Version 005 - APR 05 2012
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 03:38    Post_subject:  

Made a DVD-RW using "lupusuper-5.2.8.6-20131012.iso"...
Modofied the isolinux.cfg file in the iso to include pmedia=ataflash...
Renamed the iso to "lupusuper-5.2.8.6-20131012-ataflash.iso" and made a new CD.
Both seem to be working just fine with this "new" 2012 desktop PC. Very Happy
Wiped the 1st CD.

Now all I need is to find the time to tweak it to suit my likes. Very Happy
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nooby

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 06:09    Post_subject:  

Sylvander
Quote:

Modofied the isolinux.cfg file in the iso
to include pmedia=ataflash...


Cool how does one do such? Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 06:27    Post_subject:  

Reporting success on all fronts after 12 hours of testing the new "sulu"
version. Works like a charm! It picked up my 5.2.8.6 lupusave without
raising an eyebrow, I just needed to change the beginning of the 2fs
filename from lupu to sulu.

Good work, rerwin! Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:46    Post_subject:  

Wow I've not paid attention. is there a 528-006 even.

I ahve to try that one too then Smile

rerwind seems to have it for download here

http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/aarf/rerwin/lupu5286/lupusuper-5.2.8.6-20131012.iso

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Atle

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 12:17    Post_subject:  

I am not sure what one looses with a newer kernel, but there are so many AWESOME new Puppies out there, but they do not have the repo or number of pets.

Just the last 24 hours i tested

Simplicity 13.10
FatDog64 630rc1
AlphaOS 12.1

I think the strength of Lupu or is it Lucid, is in the hidden treasures in the forum, pets and SFS that are not in the repo or in the QuickPet.
These are goodies like=


Shareinternet (as custom as it gets)
Nwipe
LHMP
Tixati

Could it be that these and probably lots of others are left behind if one starts competing with other Puppy's that has newer stuff under the hood, but that are not allrounders like 5.2.8?

If I was to compare 5.2.8 with something on wheels, it would be this thing here that i used to have...

What i have been missing the most is to round up e'm lost pets in the forum and elsewhere and get them presented in a good way like QuickPet.

Look at Quickpet in Simplicity. It was surprisingly amounts of software there.

I think its a bit like of it will not run 5.2.8, you jump on to Slitaz for support for older hardware and even 486 compatibility.

In my view 5.2.8 should not join the Kernel race, but rather round up em lost pets there out in the wild.

I test Lupusuper now and report. Just need to reboot:-)
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Atle

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 12:53    Post_subject:  

Tested lupusuper and it works great, discovering all of my 4 gig of ram:-)

So i guess this is a PAE version? Very cool.

Quickpet is not connecting
Packet manager does and i am udating it... *Update... Packet manager does download stuff like firefox 24, the same file that Quickpet does not.*

is there anything special that i should test or post?

The machine is a ASUS U36SD with i5 and 4 gig ram.

I shall test to install some pets and SFS anyhow.

UPDATE And they do install fine. Testing OpenOffice now as a SFS as Firefox 24 and Gpredict installed fine.
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 17:43    Post_subject:  

nooby wrote:
Cool how does one do such? Smile

See this.
Except...
These days I'm finding that the filemnt command fails to mount the ISO [held on an external HDD (USB connected)], so I'm now often forced to copy the isolinux.cfg file from the mounted CD ["partition file system"][by clicking on the CD icon on the desktop]...
Then modify it, and then follow the method given [using ISOMaster] to replace the ISO copy of isolinux.cfg with the new edited version.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 18:58    Post_subject:  

Although I think I have seen mention of the "ataflash" business in many threads or periods, but never grasped the complete picture as to what is deficient and what is desired. Has it ever been resolved in a puppy version somewhere? I would like to help with solving the issues (whatever they are) if I can.

From the above postings I conclude that flash media are being used as substitute hard drives but are not being treated appropriately for flash media (the delayed writes). But I am confused about discussion of iso images. I think I have heard of the concept of booting from an ISO image, but that seems a different issue than the delayed writes to flash media. Could someone "spell it out" for me, so I can home in on a solution, if possible?

From the above postings, a simple/simplistic solution might be to offer ISO files with the isolinux.cfg file already set with "ataflash". But how should I describe how/when it should be used? Also, what is the problem with using the boot parameter, media=ataflash?

Or is there something needed for the installer to cause it to know when ataflash is appropriate. I hope this has been fixed somewhere. But I am willing to try for a fix of some sort, for lupu and maybe then for other puppies.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Oct 2013, 23:40    Post_subject:  

The only catch is that I downloaded Lupu Libre and Libre office wasn't on the download. I had to install the sfs
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Oct 2013, 01:22    Post_subject:  

Thanks Sylvander!
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Oct 2013, 04:29    Post_subject:  

1.
rerwin wrote:
From the above postings I conclude that flash media are being used as substitute hard drives...

I hope you didn't get that idea from anything I said.
Actually, it's exactly the opposite.
I use the pmedia=ataflash setting in isolinux.cfg...
To make the Puppy treat the pupsave file on an internal HDD as though it is a pupsave on a Flash Drive.
[See item 4 here]
Hence:
a. The "Menu->System->Puppy Event Manager->Save Session->Save interval" can be set to zero [0], so that there is no autosaving during the session.
[As in item 1 here]
Then I can also...
b. Make some modifications so as to be given the choice at shutdown/reboot "to save or not to save".
[See item 2 here]
And so as to make "Don't save..." the default:
See this post.

2. By-the-way...
The creator of Lighthouse64 told me [in a post on his thread] that...
The next version of Lighthouse64...
Will include a simple command that can be entered during Startup...
To turn off auto-saving by default...
And this turn-off will then be permanent for that installation of Puppy.
At present there is a simple command to do this, but it lonly lasts for the following session; is not permanent.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Oct 2013, 10:19    Post_subject:  

Hello.

This may be of interest to some.

Upgrading the support files of a Puppy distro: a successful experiment

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=731719&sort=lastpost#731719

Bye for now.

musher0

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Oct 2013, 17:28    Post_subject:  

rerwin?

I just read a post
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=731472&sort=lastpost#731472
mentioning that
Code:
xwin icewm-session

is the better way to launch icewm.

If lupu/sulu is launched with that command, the result is that fbpanel is launched also. (Please see attached pics.)

If the existing line 163 of .xinitrc is replaced with this one:
Code:
if [[ "$CURRENTWM" != "jwm" && "$CURRENTWM" != "icewm" && "$CURRENTWM" != "icewm-session" && "$CURRENTWM" != "startxfce4" && "$CURRENTWM" != "startfluxbox" ]];then

fbpanel is not launched.

I hope this helps. Best regards.

musher0
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PostPosted: Wed 23 Oct 2013, 07:08    Post_subject:  

I could not find a place to put this link that I found on the great service offered by NewsNow Linux section

But being a 5.2.8 fan, i hope this can be of use or interest for a renewed version concerning icons for the distro

Nitrux-OS-Pack with latest set if icons

Sorry if this is not directly 5.2.8.06 related, but I hope it can become:-)
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri 25 Oct 2013, 06:51    Post_subject: ffconvert-1.4  

ffconvert-1.4 adds new feature, ffinfo and mkplaylist, ROX Filer right-click options.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54056&start=196

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