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zigbert


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PostPosted: Thu 10 Oct 2013, 12:49    Post subject:  pBurn ask you to do ONE test-burn  

I am continuing the work to simplify and improve pBurn.
I want to minimize the number of settings in the burn-options dialog. That's why I ask you to do this simple test:

Burn a data CD on-the-fly. (Burn an iso-image is something else.)
It doesn't matter what version of pBurn you are running, but please fill the disc to test the memory-handling fully.



By default, pBurn uses the 'temporary storage' option, but I want to simplify this if CD's burn fine on-the-fly. In the old days it was recommended to use temporary storage for CDs, but now when memory is a less limitation on systems, I think it would work just fine on-the-fly. As you might figure out of this, it will be even more interesting if you are running a system with 256Mb of ram or less.
I don't want to change these options if I am not absolutely sure of the consequences. pBurn are too stable to fool with. That is why I need help by several of you.

It would also be valuable to know what burner device you have.



Hopefully the burning will succeed, but whatever result you get, it would be great if you attach the logfile here.




Thanks a lot for your help
Sigmund

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PostPosted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 20:26    Post subject:  

Hello Sigmund,

The lowest RAM computer I have here is my old SiS tower with 480 MB of RAM and quite a slow 1.8 GHz Pentium 4 single core processor. I am running pBurn 4.1.2 in Dpup Wheezy 5X15 with my cdrtools package.

I find that the optical drives in these older computers are often faulty or broken, but I recently replaced the one in this machine with a brand new one so I know it works OK.

The name of the burner device at /dev/sr0 shows as HPDVD that' all, but in the log I see "DVD Writer 1135t"

I decided to burn an .iso of Xubuntu Precise (as a single file) because at 693 MB it almost fills the CD-RW.

I selected the on-the-fly option. The burn seems to have worked OK.
I think the best thing for me to do with the log is attach it for you.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Oct 2013, 00:05    Post subject:  

I think if you're burning an iso image it is the same as not burning on the fly.
Anyway, I've always burned on the fly, but on on modern machines (900Mhz and up, not sure about the ram - recently 512 to 1024, but possibly down to 128 originally). Only with high speed drives - 52x for cd and 16x for DVD.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Oct 2013, 07:45    Post subject:  

Disciple is right, burning an iso-image will not test the system. Sorry for not being specific, I have updated the main post.

The point of on-the-fly is to both pack the data and burn it at the same time. In opposite to first do the packing (building an iso-image) and then do the burning.


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PostPosted: Sat 12 Oct 2013, 08:22    Post subject:  

OK, what I did was burn a copy of the .iso rather than the usual unpacking of the .iso to create a bootable disc. I thought that this would be the same as just burning 693 MB of any other type of data.

So, for the purposes of this test, does it make any difference if I burn 2 files of 350 MB each or 100 files of 7 MB each?

LATER:- Back on the test machine now and have just done a burn of 2 videos, a few large .pets and a jpeg image, making 699 MB of data. Attaching the log.
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Description  pBurn on-the-fly test CD-RW burn of data which is NOT an iso
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Oct 2013, 03:55    Post subject:  

Oscar
Great help - Thank you!

I have now 2 successful logs - 0 bad ones - that is 100% Smile
Still not much data to build a conclusion on. We need MANY more.


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PostPosted: Sun 27 Oct 2013, 14:55    Post subject:  

LOL, was going to get the new pBurn to grab some code setups, but could not help but respond, I've kind off, burned my own on the fly stuff for so long (w/o pBurn, since 2005) that I've never ran into an issue, EVER, using on the fly burning. Very Happy you can even remote burn on the fly to a networked computer that has a burner. - Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 31 Oct 2013, 15:30    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Oct 2013, 19:10    Post subject:  

Worked fine over here.

Quote:
sh-4.1# dmesg | egrep -i --color 'cdrom|dvd|cd/rw|writer'
[ 0.374409] ata3.00: ATAPI: HL-DT-STDVD+-RW GSA-H21N, 1.01, max UDMA/33
[ 1.006618] scsi 2:0:0:0: CD-ROM HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GSA-H21N 1.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[ 1.009707] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[ 1.009712] cdrom: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20


Does it matter that this is a full installation? Because if I was supposed to try in ram mode I can do it again. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Nov 2013, 12:22    Post subject:  

Announcer
Thank you!


Full install is just fine
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 13:08    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 15:50    Post subject: Re: pBurn ask you to do ONE test-burn  

zigbert wrote:
I am continuing the work to simplify and improve pBurn.
I want to minimize the number of settings in the burn-options dialog. That's why I ask you to do this simple test:

Burn a data CD on-the-fly. (Burn an iso-image is something else.)
[color=red]It doesn't matter what version of pBurn you are running, but please fill the disc to test the memory-handling fully.

OK, I will try it on my other computer, whose CD-RW drive seems to work.

But I don't understand what you mean by
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please fill the disc
.Shall I try to put 800 MB on a 700MB disc?
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 17:37    Post subject: Re: pBurn ask you to do ONE test-burn  

sheldonisaac wrote:
Shall I try to put 800 MB on a 700MB disc?
No. 690 is suitable.


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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 18:01    Post subject:  

Does it matter if its a CDR vs a CDRW? And, as I review this thread, it seems you do NOT want us to try this with an existing multi-session CD, is that correct?

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Nov 2013, 18:52    Post subject: Re: pBurn ask you to do ONE test-burn  

zigbert wrote:
sheldonisaac wrote:
Shall I try to put 800 MB on a 700MB disc?
No. 690 is suitable.

Well, Sigmund, eventually some burning seems to have occurred.

The task bar shows the main program and the "pBurn - Burning progress"
and seems to have hung.

I don't know what to do other than Ctrl-alt-Backspace.

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