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shinobar


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PostPosted: Thu 03 Oct 2013, 15:31    Post_subject: lupumini  

I tried the lupumini on a virtualbox with 256MB RAM without swap.
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lupumini-5.2.8.6 -- Lucid Pup with Z-drive and 121MB main SFS file, appropriate for 256MB+ RAM and minimal 160MB download size

It runs, but freezes when i tried to install seamonkey-1.1 via quickpet.
The lupumini on the 256MB RAM loads both the 121MB main SFS plus the 35MB Z-drive on the RAM at a time.
That is the same as the lupu with the 155MB main SFS, and they freezes when installing browser pets.

Anyway, I do not think the lupu is appropriate for 256MB RAM without swap.
One of the reason is the lupu does not have full featured browser, and it is a concept of the lupu.

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shinobar


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PostPosted: Thu 03 Oct 2013, 15:44    Post_subject: choice your browser  

shinobar wrote:
Anyway, I do not think the lupu is appropriate for 256MB RAM without swap.
One of the reason is the lupu does not have full featured browser, and it is a concept of the lupu.

The lupu-528JP, the Japanese edition has a seamonkey on the live cd as a seperate SFS.
But anway the lupu-528JP is not appropriate for 256MB RAM without swap.

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Oct 2013, 23:20    Post_subject:  

On low ram (256MB) computers.
I think, if you make a save file and boot using it, you can get large programs to install with no problems.

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fm1st


Joined: 28 Sep 2009
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Location: Rio de Janeiro

PostPosted: Fri 04 Oct 2013, 04:59    Post_subject:  

rerwin wrote:
I have uploaded a set of 4 ISO files labeled as 20130930.  They are available at the link at the original download posting, which explains the updates:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=726108#726108

When you have a convenience, could you please add the corresponding MD5 check sum to either your post in page 158 or your download space at mediafire site.

After my first contact with Linux in 2007, e.g. Fedora, Ubuntu's, Mandriva and DSL, and in 2009, with Puppy 4.2, becoming Linux only user and addicted to Puppy … and Lupu-528 from its very beginning, of course I learned some tweaks from the forum that, at least for me, are indispensable:

1) Show Drive Labels (thanks to akash_rawal)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=508638#508638

2) Show mounted drives in GTK File Dialog (thanks to akash_rawal)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=510081#510081

See screenshot below (thanks to akash_rawal):


3) “save” desktop icon (for saving sessions, or not), thanks to jamesbond
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=496577#496577
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The file you would need to edit isolinux.cfg. Change the last line from "pmedia=cd" to "pmedia=ataflash". The easiest way to do this is:
a) extract isolinux.cfg from Lupu 5.2
b) edit the file as above
c) get a version of puppy that has ISOMaster in it.
d) use isomaster to replace the isolinux.cfg in the puppy iso with the one you just edited
e) save the new iso, and then burn it.


And if I remember well, to get it to work I needed to instal pet “pupsaveconfig 1.9.9”. There may be a new version:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60678
EDIT: I can't find anymore where I have read, some two years ago, that “pupsaveconfig 1.9.9.pet” was necessary.

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As I would like very much not to go through the steps to have these tweaks implemented on every new version of Puppy that I try and as I think these tweaks would be of interest for everyone, may I suggest to have them added to Lupu 528.6? Thanks!

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Oct 2013, 07:28    Post_subject:  

new background.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Oct 2013, 23:57    Post_subject: Lucid Pup 5.2.8.6 disk images updated to 20131004  

I have uploaded a set of 4 ISO files labeled as 20131004. They are available at the link at the original download posting, which explains the updates:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=726108#726108

The main improvements are:
    - standardization of the mounted drive icons to provide the "X box" for unmounting (yay!)
    - addition of momanager for internationalization support
Please tell me if I need to add more to assist translation. Although it is not practical to internationalize everything in lupu, I am willing to add packages of internationalized versions of specific applications, if they are not dependent on kernels later than 2.6.33. Just request them.
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 05 Oct 2013, 03:47    Post_subject: Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 - Updated ISO Version 005 - APR 05 2012
Sub_title: 5286 plus
 

Manual frugal install to a flash drive.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 5 Oct 2013 on Lucid 528 Linux 2.6.33.2 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller:nVidiaCorporation GF108[GeForce GT 430](rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 3360x1080 pixels (898x291 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 4.3.0 NVIDIA 319.60

AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Core 0: @2699 1: @2699 2: @2699 3: @2699 MHz

I managed to get the proprietary nvidia driver installed, I will try
out some more stuff in the morning.
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radky

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Oct 2013, 10:19    Post_subject:
Sub_title: lupu-5.2.8.6
 

Manual frugal install to HDD.

VGA compatible controller: Intel Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz
Core 0: @3092 1: @3092 2: @3092 3: @3092 MHz

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The enhanced drive icon mount/unmount feature is working great.

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Volhout requested:
Quote:
- a terminal program where I can "cut and paste" with the same shortcuts as I can in other programs (either ctrl-C, ctrl-X and ctrl-V, or rightclick copy and rightclick paste).

LXTerminal (included in Lupu) supports right-click copy/paste, and the corresponding keyboard shortcuts are Shift+Ctrl+C and Shift+Ctrl+V.

Also, ROXTerm (included in Lupu) has similar functions.

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James C


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PostPosted: Sat 05 Oct 2013, 11:08    Post_subject:  

I have the old AMD k6-2 hooked up, a stack of Lucid discs and am going to attempt to see what versions will boot. Or not. Laughing

Code:
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 500

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: Riva TNT Chip Rev B1

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution:   Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

Code:
-Computer-
Processor      : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
Memory      : 385MB (114MB used)
Operating System      : Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name      : root (root)
Date/Time      : Sat 05 Oct 2013 10:22:30 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution      : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer      : Unknown
X11 Vendor      : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter      : CMI8738-SWIEC - C-Media CMI8738


The original Lucid 5.0 posted from PuppyBrowser.
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5864
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 05 Oct 2013, 11:32    Post_subject:  

Skipping a few versions up to Lucid 5.20......

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 520

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: Riva TNT Chip Rev B1

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

Code:
-Computer-
Processor      : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
Memory      : 385MB (119MB used)
Operating System      : Puppy Linux 0.52
User Name      : root (root)
Date/Time      : Sat 05 Oct 2013 10:48:15 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution      : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer      : Unknown
X11 Vendor      : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter      : CMI8738-SWIEC - C-Media CMI8738
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James C


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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 05 Oct 2013, 11:46    Post_subject:  

525 boots too....

re# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 525

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: Riva TNT Chip Rev B1

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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James C


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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 05 Oct 2013, 11:59    Post_subject:  

However....... none of the 528 versions I tried would boot on the k6-2. Attempted 528,528.004 and 528.005 as well as a couple of rerwin's updated versions.....pfix=ram,pfix=nocopy,default boot made no difference ....all had kernel panic.

End of k6-2 testing. Smile
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rerwin


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Posts: 1529
Location: Maine, USA

PostPosted: Sat 05 Oct 2013, 16:21    Post_subject:  

James C,
Playdayz's statement on page 1 explains what you are seeing:
Quote:
Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 is the fastest, friendliest, and most fun Lucid yet. It is the fastest because it is the first Lucid derivative to use the C and ffmpeg libraries optimized for i686 computers rather than the older i386 computers.
Apparently, everything compiled as C programs are potentially the cause of the problem, specifically if they use the "cmov" instruction introduced with the i686 architecture.

Maybe substituting some of the compiled programs with versions from 525 would work around the issue. The first area to examine is the bootup process, to find the C programs involved, to get past the kernel panic. We could probably live without programs dependent on ffmpeg (video processing) in those older machines. Anyone up for that? Once they are identified, I could build an ISO for the hybrid.
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majorfoo

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Location: Wish I knew

PostPosted: Sat 05 Oct 2013, 19:47    Post_subject:  

Just d/l lupu-528.006 to check it out

First added a few items and remastered. looks ok
Problem with pburn 3.7.18 creating the remastered iso
after line = fixating time =xxxxs
following appeared
wodim:fifo had 3611 puts and 3611 gets
wodim: fifo was 0 times empty and 3405 times full, min fill was 94
BURN-Free was never needed

then screen locked up. Only option was ctrl, alt, backspace, then restart x
to clear the pburn screen

Next did full install to ext 4 partition

added seamonkey 2.21
Xscreensaver
Shermans Pet
Abiword 2.90 pet
Audacious
Bibletime
tcl-8 5 6
tck-8 5 6
wbar lucid pet

tried getflash from menu >internet>getflash this did not work
added getflash-0.4 pet and then worked ok


Except for problem with pburn and getflash everything looks good
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Oct 2013, 00:22    Post_subject:  

rerwin:

Keep these coming sir... a very worthy project.

Cheers.....Chris.
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