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Monsie


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PostPosted: Fri 30 Aug 2013, 18:00    Post_subject: Touch - An Evolutionary Start by Ubuntu  

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Corporations have been relying on data centers to handle sensitive communication for quite a while now. Security conscious organizations ban cell phones on the premises.


I'm not able to find any definitive numbers on how prevalent such policy is currently. To the extent this is happening, it's bound to have an impact on the sales of smartphones for the enterprise, but to what extent, I do not know...

Certainly, many companies will have a cell phone usage policy that limits cell phone use rather than bans them, --that restricts employees from making personal calls, texts etc.-- and that seems fair, especially if it compromises worker productivity otherwise. It seems to me that cell phone use for business is still extremely important for effective communication. Maybe this begs the need for the kind of technology that provides a restricted smartphone network that allows for business communication only... kind of like an intranet for smartphones... --is this possible today?

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Aug 2013, 19:10    Post_subject:  

Monsie wrote:
jpeps wrote:
Corporations have been relying on data centers to handle sensitive communication for quite a while now. Security conscious organizations ban cell phones on the premises.


I'm not able to find any definitive numbers on how prevalent such policy is currently. To the extent this is happening, it's bound to have an impact on the sales of smartphones for the enterprise, but to what extent, I do not know...


It covers them legally. On my end, I get a fax and usually an email with an attachment that lasts for 30 minutes. Requests for information come from a data center as well, which handles the documents. I'm using one myself for faxes. Security is an evolving issue. Email isn't secure, phone messages aren't secure.

Any organization that values security (i.e, where there is the possibility of a security violation) will screen for cell phones at the front door.
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PostPosted: Sun 01 Sep 2013, 18:54    Post_subject:  

Q5sys. The work has already been started where the IT departments in several Medical groups are underway. One of them is planning a mass replacement of their distributed tablets. Another will replace laptops.

While you ask good questions you can find those answers yourself. Yes there is efforts underway.

If you want specifics, ask your doctor friend to approach either Cleveland Clinic or Johns Hopkins.

Where they may not talk to you, they will to another doctor. And, in their cases, their IT departments have presented.

Addressing HIPAA challenges is nothing new.

Hope this helps you.

I have to ask, publicly, why do you find the need to constantly quote someone in your post??? You could have just as easily asked the community for comment. Then others may be more apt to share good useful information with you. Something you "may" want to consider as this is a forum. Most of us read and follow things reasonable well without the need to quote. I dont mean this in a "spirited" manner. Just an idea being presented for consideration.

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Sep 2013, 20:55    Post_subject:  

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If you want specifics, ask your doctor friend to approach either Cleveland Clinic or Johns Hopkins.


I would guess they primarily use PC's, like every other doctor's office. Am I wrong on that?
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Sep 2013, 12:56    Post_subject:  

I think I would word that "they use technology to accomplish the same things, every doctor does, with patients."

They, along with other institutions dont care much about whether its a phone, a PC, a tablet or whatever. They look at IT solutions for the convenience and the efficiency derived versus cost. And, their solutions are usually tailored for the environment it will operate in. I say that to say that a receptionist in a hospital entrance will NOT get the kind of tools that would be provided a doctor/nurse. Nor will the front office necessarily have same tools as back office personnel.

But, I think this is rather obvious. And, it is occurring across the world, in Canada, in Brazil, across Europe, in Saudi, in Israel, in...

Am I wrong on that?

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Sep 2013, 14:10    Post_subject:  

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I say that to say that a receptionist in a hospital entrance will NOT get the kind of tools that would be provided a doctor/nurse.

So who's providing what to the doctor/nurse?

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Am I wrong on that?


I was asking a legitimate question. You mentioned some specific clinics, so I assumed you knew something that I don't. Am I wrong on that?
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Sep 2013, 14:49    Post_subject:  

jpeps wrote:
gcmartin wrote:
I say that to say that a receptionist in a hospital entrance will NOT get the kind of tools that would be provided a doctor/nurse.

So who's providing what to the doctor/nurse?

Quote:

Am I wrong on that?


I was asking a legitimate question. You mentioned some specific clinics, so I assumed you knew something that I don't. Am I wrong on that?


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If you want specifics, ask your doctor friend to approach either Cleveland Clinic or Johns Hopkins.

Where they may not talk to you, they will to another doctor. And, in their cases, their IT departments have presented.


I live in Baltimore, My friend that I'm referring to works at Johns Hopkins handling all the Pharmacy IT work. As of yet, they do not have a adequate solution for Compliance across Android devices. As a Hospital Policy patent data may not hit a mobile device because of a inability for them to properly secure medical data as required by Federal Law. The hospital wants to set up a internal cloud for patient data for use by any medical provider regardless of what device they are on, but they are unable to do so with the current nonavailability of a way to secure the dissemination of that information on mobile devices. So access to patient information can only occur on a system that web sense will run on. The IT staff does not feel that the web sense mobile tools offer a solution that will work as needed.


If you are aware of a solution that Johns Hopkins, please by all means give me a name of someone there that I can refer him to.
You have made claims but refuse to provide one single reference that anyone else can use to verify your claims. Is it really that difficult for you to provide a source for your claims?

If you've already found the information, share it. Dont just tell anyone else to 'go find it on your own'. If you are 'here to help' then help.

You have also not provided information on a full dual Android/Linux system encryption system. Are you aware of something in this area, or are you just assuming that something has been created?


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I have to ask, publicly, why do you find the need to constantly quote someone in your post??? You could have just as easily asked the community for comment. Then others may be more apt to share good useful information with you. Something you "may" want to consider as this is a forum. Most of us read and follow things reasonable well without the need to quote. I dont mean this in a "spirited" manner. Just an idea being presented for consideration.


I use the quote button because I like to directly reference what I'm reply to. Since you like to use the 'edit' button to change your posts after someone comments... I choose to use the 'quote' button to preserve the comment you made that I'm replying to. That way if you change it later, people can see what my comments were in relation to.

If you have a problem with the quote button's use. Convince admin to remove that functionality from this site.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Sep 2013, 16:19    Post_subject:  

Q5sys, I dont think I can help. Try approaching the IT department evaluating the touch devices. There is work being done. They already have the toolkits and are underway, already.

There is also work being done, as well, down the road from you at both Ft. Meade as well as at NIH. This is in your back yard and you're running here in the forum for answers you can get by knocking on doors of those who will share information with you. Also, lastly, in Montgomery County there are 2 firms also working to bring this technology into the medical community.

You live there and you're asking me to get you inside. Wow.

Hope this helps

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Sep 2013, 17:07    Post_subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
Q5sys, I dont think I can help. Try approaching the IT department evaluating the touch devices. There is work being done. They already have the toolkits and are underway, already.

There is also work being done, as well, down the road from you at both Ft. Meade as well as at NIH. This is in your back yard and you're running here in the forum for answers you can get by knocking on doors of those who will share information with you. Also, lastly, in Montgomery County there are 2 firms also working to bring this technology into the medical community.

You live there and you're asking me to get you inside. Wow.

Hope this helps


You are speaking from a position of knowledge. I'm simply asking you to share your knowledge since you claim to be 'Here to help'.

You're telling me to approach the IT department at Johns Hopkins to ask about solutions, when then their own IT staff are unaware of any solutions and are actively looking for some. How can they give answers about solutions that they are unaware of. Solutions that you claim to be aware of.

So you're saying you know more about what the IT department at Johns Hopkins is doing than their own IT staff, but are unwilling to share that knowledge?
Seriously?


I'll think you said it best in the LHP thread.
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If you have a link, you could post it here in this thread.
Others would benefit and we could begin to spread the word.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Sep 2013, 17:27    Post_subject:  

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Security considerations are the greatest risk involved in supporting mobility, at least in the view of 70 percent of IT staff surveyed for the CompTIA study. Among the challenges they face:

* Downloading unauthorized apps, cited as a serious concern by 48 percent of respondents
* Lost or stolen devices (42 percent)
* Mobile-specific viruses and malware (41 percent)
* Open Wi-Fi networks (41 percent)
* USB flash drives (40 percent)
* Personal use of business devices (40 percent)

“Issues such as mobile device management and mobile security are really in the beginning stages,” he said. “Mobile strategies also involve considerations such as mobile-optimized applications and the supporting infrastructure. Are you going to allow employees to bring their own mobile devices into the workplace?


This is just general use. HIPAA compliance is a whole different can of worms. The big changes in medical facilities involve large centralized databases, which require highly regulated security. A clinician could easily use a touchpad device instead of PC, as long as it's connected to the same secure database.


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Sep 2013, 19:47    Post_subject:  

jpeps wrote:
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Security considerations are the greatest risk involved in supporting mobility, at least in the view of 70 percent of IT staff surveyed for the CompTIA study. Among the challenges they face:

* Downloading unauthorized apps, cited as a serious concern by 48 percent of respondents
* Lost or stolen devices (42 percent)
* Mobile-specific viruses and malware (41 percent)
* Open Wi-Fi networks (41 percent)
* USB flash drives (40 percent)
* Personal use of business devices (40 percent)

“Issues such as mobile device management and mobile security are really in the beginning stages,” he said. “Mobile strategies also involve considerations such as mobile-optimized applications and the supporting infrastructure. Are you going to allow employees to bring their own mobile devices into the workplace?


This is just general use. HIPAA compliance is a whole different can of worms. The big changes in medical facilities involve large centralized databases, which require highly regulated security. A clinician could easily use a touchpad device instead of PC, as long as it's connected to the same secure database.


http://www.webpronews.com/mobile-devices-it-2012-03


As long as there is no way to save the data onto your device and take it with you, then yes... a central database is not an issue. Websense usually does a good job with making sure data isnt copied to a remote usb or emailed through the network; but its Android system apparently isnt up to snuff, per the team at JH. That's why they are looking for another solution.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Sep 2013, 21:45    Post_subject:  

Q5sys, there is development. Sorry they wont share with you.

But, as noted, using data which exist in central databases isn't a matter of whether its PC integration. Its a matter of device integration as is pointed out.

You are the Med Industry Expert for the person(s) you represent. Surely you are also aware of the changes, the development and the testing underway.

I'm a little confused by your quest in this thread. Are you looking for Touch solutions in Medicine? Are you looking for a particular solution for a specific department in Johns Hopkin University Hospital, its University, or one of the myriad of Drug Stores in the JHUHC community. And why is a druggist who works somewhere concerned at all about what technology he is going to be given? or are you suggesting he is unhappy with what he has and would like a different technology? How can we help you best? And please ask this to the community because there may be ideas to help that you haven't thought of?

Share what you think will enlighten us.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Sep 2013, 13:29    Post_subject: Sony moves their manufacturing to touch  

Understanding the direction that Ubuntu wants to take, here is one which is continuing agressively. (Note the percentages.)

It also should be noted that particular Universities around the world are indicating that entrants should bring laptops with no mention of desktops. This is a subtle indication of what occurring in front of all of us.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Sep 2013, 16:20    Post_subject:  

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...and anyone thinking of carting in a tower system with a 19" CRT monitor better think again.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Sep 2013, 00:07    Post_subject:  

Keef wrote:
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entrants should bring laptops with no mention of desktops


...and anyone thinking of carting in a tower system with a 19" CRT monitor better think again.


That would work nicely with an Edge. For taking a notes, a clipboard and pen beats everything by far.
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