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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 17:46    Post subject:  

nitehawk wrote:
nitehawk wrote:
I recently decided to switch from Slackware (and Slackware-based distros) to just basic Debian. I didn't want to do Debian itself,...(too hard for someone still on dialup, having to download a net-install). And I for SURE didn't want to have to buy all 10 (I think it is now) DVDs.

So I have re-discovered CrunchBang. I've gotten quite hooked on the Openbox desktop,....and the fact that it is basically just Debian. In all fair-ness,...I haven't tired the latest Antix yet (which I may like as well).

I missed the late DreamLinux,...but these two smaller Debian-based distros seem really very nice!


OK,..
eating my own words!
...got tired of trying to fool with Openbox. Just went back to Slackware 14 (Xfce). It just seems easier,...maybe because I'm used to the combination of setting up Slackware,...and the Xfce desktop environment. Feels more like home. (As far as Puppies,...got one on all my machines.) Gotta use what works for you and on your particular computers, I guess.


Agreed; the trouble is that Slack still doesn't have anything as like as good dependency tracking as Debian, and it's also got nowhere near the number of prebuilt packages that Debian has, so if you want something at all unusual (like Osmo for example) you have to guess your way through compiling it along with the packages it depends on.

I usually end up compromising and running both at the same time (or two distros, one based on each).

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 18:16    Post subject:  

Porteus is very good. Small, fast and slackware based.
This distro builder is pretty cool too.
http://build.porteus.org/

I would like to see JWM and Seamonkey as an option in the builder though.

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 18:46    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
Porteus is very good. Small, fast and slackware based.
This distro builder is pretty cool too.
http://build.porteus.org/

I would like to see JWM and Seamonkey as an option in the builder though.

I've heard a lot of good things about Porteus....may have to try that. However,...
I just went back to my old standby, VectorLinux. (Great Slackware-based distro) Seems that no matter what ever I try,....
I just always wind up going to straight ol' Vector and Puppy. Vector has a nice repository,..
(with dependencies). And it comes with a whole bunch of apps, and all the codecs OOTB.
Guess I'll just stay with that, and quit "distro-hopping".
I think that Vector is about ready to release the new version of 7.1. Can't wait to see what that is like.
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 19:00    Post subject:  

If your a slackware user, you can use SlackBuilds for extra packages.
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 19:26    Post subject:  

bark_bark_bark wrote:
If your a slackware user, you can use SlackBuilds for extra packages.


Sure, but it's more limited than Debian. I've tried it and couldn't get Osmo working in Vector (though it does in Salix, which has its own package management system).

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 19:27    Post subject:  

nitehawk wrote:
smokey01 wrote:
Porteus is very good. Small, fast and slackware based.
This distro builder is pretty cool too.
http://build.porteus.org/

I would like to see JWM and Seamonkey as an option in the builder though.

I've heard a lot of good things about Porteus....may have to try that. However,...
I just went back to my old standby, VectorLinux. (Great Slackware-based distro) Seems that no matter what ever I try,....
I just always wind up going to straight ol' Vector and Puppy. Vector has a nice repository,..
(with dependencies). And it comes with a whole bunch of apps, and all the codecs OOTB. Guess I'll just stay with that, and quit "distro-hopping".

I think that Vector is about ready to release the new version of 7.1. Can't wait to see what that is like.


Sounds good. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 19:29    Post subject:  

rokytnji wrote:
@CP

Code:
sux


password. enter

Code:
apt-get udate


enter

Is required after every AntiX fresh install to get the repos going.


Thanks loads, I'll try that tomorrow (or later on today since it's past midnight Smile ).

Cheers,

CP .

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 22:02    Post subject:  

The Porteus Package Manager is very good too. It takes care of dependencies very well. The package manager takes care of slack builds on the fly.

I don't think I will ever leave Puppy although it is very impressive.

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 23:29    Post subject:  

And their forum is rather friendly too so that is a good help for newbies.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jul 2013, 06:06    Post subject:  

rokytnji wrote:
@CP

Code:
sux


password. enter

Code:
apt-get udate


enter

Is required after every AntiX fresh install to get the repos going.


Just a quick update here; "apt-get update" worked, "apt-get udate" didn't. Thanks anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Jul 2013, 10:18    Post subject: Antix 13.1  

I just put Antix 13.1 on a Compaq 2108US laptop (AMD2800xp) and am really happy with the results so far; some small issues I ran into:

1- Asunder Cd ripper locks up(experienced this in Lupu 528 also so it may be a hardware AMD issue. I Uninstalled asunder using Synaptic and installed Ripper-X, works great.

2- Some quirks when changing windows managers, wallpaper; when turning spaceFM desktop on and off wallpaper reverts to default and sometimes desktop icons disapear. I settled on a setup I like and it has been solid since.

3. file manager icon calls up spaceFM; I prefer Rox; I'll have to look at config file and edit to call up Rox.

4. some menus have too much stuff; the average user will find themselves removing unwated items.


overall Antix13.1 is quick(not as quick as a Pup, but pretty fast), has a clean look and is easily reconfigurable. package installs from the Debian repositories work well and removals of unwanted packages went well. I like this distro and it has replaced Lupu 528 on the Compaq for now.

one note is that the developer has stated that Antix will be on hold for a while due to his job but as the current release seems very stable I don't see this as an issue.
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jul 2013, 16:47    Post subject:  after proving ZevenOS for some time
Subject description: thanks nooby for recomending it
 

Zeven OS looks like a bored uncolored unmoving box, ugh!, but, it's really giving me service. I practiced ubuntu, zorin, and around other 8 distros before, all of them more-or-less good looking but giving you ugly surprises. I don't know if you know what I mean.

It seems this Zeven system is really supported, because it not only works continously, sometimes it does it better than the day before.
Still loving Puppy! I work with both systems, really, Zeven and Puppy. Actually the only 2 systems installed in my PC nowadays.

But the glory that surrounded us, the puppy users, around the 2009-2010 years is gone.... forever? We weren't only nerds at the beginning, we were giving the world a voice that said "pssst, hey you users, forget that stupid windows, here is the alternative".
I recomend never minding for this, a person does what a person can do. And there are options for those who still want to play the software world war, like praying for Snowden perhaps? uhggggg, well, things like that, but it can't be said they don't exist.
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jul 2013, 16:24    Post subject:  

Back using my Dell again now as the old Compaq's hard drive showed signs of starting to fail today. I tried to wipe the drive with DBan and it only worked on the third attempt; on the other two, it crashed immediately it was started, showing an error message indicating probable bad sectors on the hard drive.

So it looks like the drive's days are numbered, and as I can't replace it now it's sadly time to put the Compaq out to grass. It's been a good and loyal servant though and has had literally dozens of Puppies running on it over the years.

Anyway, I've installed SUSE 12.3 (with KDE) on the new machine and it seems to be a very solid system. The new SUSE KDE theme and wallpaper are quite attractive too, in different shades of dark green (and some black).

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jul 2013, 22:50    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic, if your Compaq can use a desktop-type (3.5" size) IDE drive, I can send you one... I've got five 80gb ones and a 100gb model staring me in the face right now, just tell me which size and pay me the shipping and I'll send it off...
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jul 2013, 11:09    Post subject:  

starhawk wrote:
Colonel Panic, if your Compaq can use a desktop-type (3.5" size) IDE drive, I can send you one... I've got five 80gb ones and a 100gb model staring me in the face right now, just tell me which size and pay me the shipping and I'll send it off...


Thanks for the offer! I'll certainly consider it but I've pretty much decided to stick with the Dell from now on and maybe have a netbook for backup (if I need backup at all) rather than keep a big old desktop around the place for a spare.

In other news, I'm posting from the latest version of Salix Mate (64-bit), which seems pretty good, and I've also installed Saline 1.7 which with XFCE and its underwater "school of fish" wallpaper is one of the most attractive distros I've seen if a bit "old school" in practice (it uses Debian Stable rather than Debian Testing).

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