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backi

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Location: GERMANY

PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 13:17    Post_subject:  

Hi 666philp !
Thanks for your information but ....... not sure what this mean ....
is this good or is this bad ?

(Dont have any video problems )
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subarus

Joined: 02 Jul 2013
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 22:39    Post_subject:  

Works wonderfully on Asus X101CH netbook

youtube HD is no longer choppy, thanks to working graphic driver. Resume after suspend no longer hangs. The full hardware potential of my little machine is finally unleashed.

fwiw, X101CH was a piece of junk prior to upup-raring, because no working graphic driver on linux. Win7 besides being slow, freezes sporadically

X101CH is now my machine of choice when I need a machine which is ultra portable and fanless.

I just have to write something to express my gratitude to upup-raring ringtail developers.

I wonder if the cedartrail developer realize the value proposition they could have had if they released enough technical info for something like upup-raring to be developed 2 years earlier? and are they going to continue to let microsoft to screw them up in the future? just like microsoft screwed nokia up. or is there something I am not understanding about business strategies of these large corporations?

Thanks again
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don570


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Location: Ontario

PostPosted: Wed 03 Jul 2013, 19:53    Post_subject:  

I can get a Chinese install in this version of Raring Laughing

Using this method.


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anikin

Joined: 10 May 2012
Posts: 460

PostPosted: Thu 04 Jul 2013, 06:14    Post_subject:
Sub_title: remove firefox
 

Hi pemasu,

I'd like to remove Firefox from this Raring and do it cleanly. There was a discussion about removing Seamonkey some time ago, but I can't find it.

Thank you in advance.
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don570


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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jul 2013, 10:55    Post_subject:  

Quote:
I'd like to remove Firefox from this Raring


Don't forget to change the default apps.

They are located in /usr/loca/bin/default***

You just have to change the execute line.

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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013, 04:14    Post_subject:  

I have briefly tested latest woof and compiled non-PAE 3.9.8 kernel. I created Upup Raring 3.9.8.

This one is result of couple of rainy days, when there wasnt much to do outside. Now....I will be really busy with activities next 3 days at last. I am in the safety boat in the lake in canoe championship race. I will spend next days around the lake following canoes. So....I will open new thread for Upup Raring 3.9.8 with appropriate announcement info when I have time. Maybe this evening or.....

But...if there are hasty people, they can check the build before I announce it properly. There are some changes since my previous Upup Raring build. Updates, changed applications, well....features from new woof and changed kernel.

I have spent also my samsung android smartphone mobile bandwith usage limit. I bought more.... but, it seems that using smartphone as wifi router has its limitations. Of course this need is temporary due to my vacation and summer cottage situation.

This post and distro upload has been done with my mother Huawei 3g modem, so support for 3g modems has been tested.

I will provide link for kernel source sfs later also.

Download link: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/UpupRaring/UpupRaring398/
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tlchost

Joined: 05 Aug 2007
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Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA

PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013, 06:10    Post_subject:  

Has to be something to do with the newer kernels.....both Barry's latest Raring and yours are very slow....takes forever when clicking on a directory to have the contents displayed.

Video is so distorted with bad characters/missing characters that one cand not really tell what's going on.

I suspect the newer kernels simply don't work with my motherboard and inbuilt chips.

I will not post the details...they've been posted numerous times in Barry's Raring thread. If you think it would help, I'll PM information to you, rather than clutter the forum.

Thom
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013, 07:04    Post_subject:  

Not much time but zero problems with Raring 3.9.8 so far on the Athlon XP box.
Had to add nouveau.noaccel=1 to the kernel line but otherwise everything working well ootb. Much,much faster than Barry K's latest Raring...at least on this box.

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (202MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Upup Raring - 3.9.8
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 05 Jul 2013 06:11:20 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.9.8-upup (i686)
Version : #1 SMP Tue Jul 2 13:47:33 EEST 2013
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.17 (stable)
Distribution : Upup Raring - 3.9.8

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Upup Raring, version 3.9.8

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri exa extmod fb fbdevhw glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013, 08:04    Post_subject:  

Manual frugal install to an 8gb SDHC card running on an Acer desktop
pc.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 5 Jul 2013 on Upup Raring 3.9.8
Linux 3.9.8-upup i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
(rev 1Cool
oem: Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product:
Intel(R)Ironlake Desktop Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0
X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.13.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.1.3
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Core 0: @3067 1: @1200 2: @3067 3: @3067 MHz

I installed vlc-2.0.6 and XBMC-12 from ppm.

Working good here.
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013, 10:50    Post_subject:  

I did a remaster of upup raring 398 and it's running on an older
Compaq desktop pc.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 5 Jul 2013 on Upup Raring 3.9.8
Linux 3.9.8-upup i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller:
Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01)
oem: ATI RADEON 9200
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.13.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (507x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5961) x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL DRI2
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 9.1.3
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Core 0: @2800 1: @2800 MHz

Everything seems to be working okay except for XBMC, perhaps it will
work if/when there is a pet for the old legacy ati card in this pc.
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peebee


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Location: Malvern, Worcs, UK

PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013, 15:10    Post_subject: Fantastic job  

pemasu wrote:
I have briefly tested latest woof and compiled non-PAE 3.9.8 kernel. I created Upup Raring 3.9.8.

Hi Pemasu

Great stuff - all working well for me on my HP550 laptop - none of the problems I experienced with BarryK's Puppy Raring - but I guess that's because you haven't made the "under-the-hood" changes like replacing udev with eudev that are in Puppy Raring.....

The "built-in" Broadcom wl driver is working fine with Frisbee....

Chromium 28 is working OOTB.....

LxPup by SFS is working well - which means that pup-volume-monitor is working correctly

Many thanks
Cheers!
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OscarTalks

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Location: London, England

PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013, 15:15    Post_subject:  

Hello Pemasu,

The lagabluenight icon theme is upgraded to 1.2 with improved USB drive and lock icons.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-noarch/desk_icon_theme_lagabluenight-1.2.pet

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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013, 15:28    Post_subject:  

Just back briefly. Thanks guys of the feedback.
Tlchost. You should create pdiag tarball and post it here as attachment. In console: pdiag

Peebee. Yeah. I have gone with proven formula. Udev-167, module-init-tools, no kmod package, no eudev. My kernels have had devtmpfs for eudev readiness enabled for sometime. So...if someone wants to be really adventurous, just swap that stuff from Barrys Raring Puppy and delete all udev and module-init-tools stuff and try to improve it. I will let it mature for now as long as old ways is good enough.

I read about the feedback from Raring Puppy thread, and I decided to stay with good old methods.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013, 18:18    Post_subject:  

Catalyst 13.4 freezes. Crapped from the savefile afterwards, from the xorg log:
fglrx(0): Failed to open CMMQS connection.

Seems to be known problem with this catalyst driver and recent kernels.

I downgraded to the Catalyst 13.1. Maybe newer would have been ok, but 13.1 worked with 3.8.7 kernel so....

I patched the source again, compiled, petted, installed and rebooted with savefile creation. Yes ! Works really great.

Catalyst 13.1 is ati-amd fglrx driver for newer graphics. Legacy need to wait for awhile.

Download link for ati-amd catalyst driver k3.9.8 not for older 3.8.7.
I really need to create new thread.

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-raring/catalyst-13.1-k3.9.8-raring-modern.pet

Right click the ppower - lightning symbol - icon in tray > hardware control > PowerTop. Or in console: powertop.

You can check the watt consumption in your laptop - netbook. Also you can somewhat tune the consumption with ready made options.
I get with Radeon driver about 24-26 watts with basic usage. With Catalyst it is only 15-16 watts, almost as less than with my integrated intel graphics in my dual graphics laptop. I do like Catalyst now. Catalyst also wakes up from suspend nicely.
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01micko


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PostPosted: Fri 05 Jul 2013, 19:48    Post_subject: Re: Fantastic job  

peebee wrote:
Great stuff - all working well for me on my HP550 laptop - none of the problems I experienced with BarryK's Puppy Raring - but I guess that's because you haven't made the "under-the-hood" changes like replacing udev with eudev that are in Puppy Raring.....


We'll see..

I tend to think the kernel devs fixed your bug because remember you had it with ThinSlacko with 3.9 series kernel.

More on this later in another thread Wink

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