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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul 2013, 21:23    Post subject: Lighthouse 64 602 Beta2 with GIMP-2.8.4  

I moved my Lighthouse64 install once again, this time to a hp desktop
pc.
I booted with the option that doesn't load x and uninstalled the
proprietary Nvidia driver, then rebooted.
It booted to the prompt and advised doing "xorgwizard-puppy" which I
did,chose probe and the proper screen resolution and it went to the
desktop.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 1 Jul 2013 on Lighthouse64 602 Linux 3.8.7 x86_64
2.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product:
Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Core 0: @1600 1: @1600 2: @1600 3: @1600 MHz

Everything seems good on this one too.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul 2013, 21:34    Post subject:  

How can I "not" write to savefile at shutdown/reboot? I tried pupsaveconfig, but once that's installed, I can not reboot....

Thanks

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul 2013, 21:53    Post subject: Re: Creating a LH64 bootable USB stick  

tazoc wrote:

First it will ask you to navigate to the location of your Lighthouse64-6.02-B2.iso. Either the base or Mariner ISO will work.


I hit a wall here.

I have an iso-burned DVD in the drive but it does not show up as Lighthouse64*.iso but rather as a bunch of files and folders none of which contain that.

WDYT?

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul 2013, 23:43    Post subject: Re: Creating a LH64 bootable USB stick  

@Edoc, I thnik TaZoC wants you to use the ISO file, itself, rather than the DVD. If you have the ISO file on your HDD, just point the utility to that location and it will extract the files its looking for.

Hope this helps in understanding.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 00:55    Post subject:  

Just time for a quick report, all working well but it was necessary to add nouveau.noaccel=1 to the kernel line with my onboard Nvidia graphics.If not, computer freezes with a garbled display.
This problem reared it's ugly head somewhere about k-3.5 and later.

Code:
VGA compatible controller      : nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])


Otherwise looking good so far in brief testing.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 02:02    Post subject:  

1.
tazoc wrote:
For Xfe,
Fatdog64 has these
http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/pets/600/fox-1.6.45-600.pet (dependency)
http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/pets/600/xfe-1.32.5-600.pet

Completed the installation of these; Xfe is now functioning.
Had to run Firefox as root, so as to save the files to my Flash Drive where I keep all installed PET files.

2.
tazoc wrote:
For SaveMyModem maybe you can compile it from source:
http://www.lhpup.org/help/faqs/pet-package.html

Yikes!
I've never compiled anything.
Am reluctant to attempt it for fear of making a mess of it.
Might someone more experienced produce a PET, or else give me detailed instructions?
Even if given, they might be beyond my understanding.

3.
tazoc wrote:
Please try the Lighthouse 64 boot option
pfix=noautosave
Enter it on the kernel line. From the LiveCD boot menu, press <tab> (BIOS firmware)

Did this [SUPERB!], but [even though I save the session changes] it only lasts for that session [not auto-applied at the next].
How should I make it permanent?
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 02:33    Post subject:  

Quick live run as a hardware check on an old box with ATI graphics. And no hdd. Everything looking good ootb.

Code:
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue 2 Jul 2013 on Lighthouse64 602  Linux 3.8.7 x86_64
  5.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series] 
  oem: ATI RADEON Xpress 200G Series

X Server: Xorg   Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.12.3
  dimensions:    1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  depth of root window:    24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS480
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4

 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+
 Core 0: @1000  MHz


-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+
Memory : 953MB (344MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Puppy Linux
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue Jul 2 11:42:35 2013
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS480
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ATIIXP - ATI IXP

Code:
bash-4.1# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:        953680       880324        73356            0        99712
-/+ buffers:             780612       173068
Swap:            0            0            0
<root> ~

bash-4.1#
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 10:16    Post subject: Re: Creating a LH64 bootable USB stick  

gcmartin wrote:
@Edoc, I thnik TaZoC wants you to use the ISO file, itself, rather than the DVD. If you have the ISO file on your HDD, just point the utility to that location and it will extract the files its looking for.

Hope this helps in understanding.


As the gatekeeper said in The Wizard of Oz "Well, that's a horse of a different color!"

I'll copy it to a different USB stick & move it over.

Thanks & will report back ...

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 11:58    Post subject:  

OK, USB stick iso and partition complete.

Booted OK when I used the selection to bypass the problematic Radeon driver.

wlan0 connected fine.

Just rebooted and told it to create the savefile on sda4

QUESTION: Will I always have to boot with the USB stick or will I at some point be able to boot in Frugal without the USB stick?

INSTALL NOTE: When one clicks on the Desktop Setup icon that menu shows a generic Puppy Universal Installer but when clicking on the Star icon in the bottom left corner then going to Setup the same app if labeled Lighthouse Universal Installer.

SETUP NOTE: It is unclear what to choose in order to browse compatible apps for LH64-602b2

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 12:04    Post subject: Re: The nVidea driverPETinstallation issue is SOLVED  

gcmartin wrote:
The nVidea driver issue is SOLVED via a series of steps on the X2 desktop PC.

As it turns out, 3 reboots of the Linux Live media system was required to. both, circumvent the error message and get a successful driver installation.

I will open a thread for future LH64 reference that addresses just this single issue by consolidating the symptoms with a resolution which worked..

Here to help


Sure appreciate your persistence and taking the time to share the solution!

I may need equal persistence to sort out the Radeon problem on my HP Pavilion g7

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dancytron

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 12:15    Post subject:  

tlchost wrote:
How can I "not" write to savefile at shutdown/reboot? I tried pupsaveconfig, but once that's installed, I can not reboot....

Thanks

Thom


I haven't really tested it, but I added "pfix=noautosave" to the boot command. I did this by adding an entry to the syslinux.cfg file.


Code:
label NoAutoSave
linux vmlinuz
initrd initrd.xz
append pfix=noautosave
menu label 2a Lighthouse64 with no auto save
text help
  Start Lighthouse64 normally with no auto save. (pfix=noautosave)
endtext


I don't know if it is necessary, but I also changed the save interval in the Puppy Event Manager to 0.

When it boots, it says it is in "Pupmode 15", which might mean it is working.

edit: I went ahead and did a frugal hard drive install. I have a preexisting Grub install. This is the Grub entry I used.


Code:
title Lighthouse64 Linux 602 frugal in sda3 dir L64-602 ataflash noautosave
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
kernel /L64-602/vmlinuz pmedia=ataflash psubdir=L64-602 pfix=noautosave
initrd /L64-602/initrd.xz

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 14:02    Post subject: KDE4 workaround  

Jim1911 wrote:
One problem: With 5KDE-4.6.5-x86_64-H.sfs and Gvfs-1.12.3-x86_64-3.sfs loaded, I am still unable to switch to the KDE window manager (WM). When WM tries to start it shows an error: "kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. The error code is 127." Clicking on OK provides the shutdown screen and allows me to switch to another WM. All other WM work fine
Thanks, Jim. KDE4 freezes shortly after starting here. So I pressed Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, and typed xwin openbox. Then this workaround works here. Copy and paste into a terminal:
Code:
rm -f /root/.kde/Autostart/pup_event
I hope that helps.
bignono1 wrote:
Mariner working great on a P4 32bit machine with 2.5gb ram, only thing odd is when installing a pet via ppm a password is needed , which is "woofwoof".
I understand there were some P4 Prescotts that supported I-64. Re: the password for PPM, that is odd. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 15:55    Post subject: Re: Pidgin Logs  

tlchost wrote:
I normally move .purple out of /root to /mnt/home and use a symlink to keep it out of the save file anmd share it between various puppies.

LHP has it in /root/spot and moving it to /mnt/home and using a symlink will not allow log files to be written.

Is there a work around?

Thanks
Yes, by default in LH64 and FD64, pidgin runs as user 'spot', and spot cannot write to files not owned by spot. This is to prevent web-connected apps from messing with your important files. So make .purple owned by spot, (root can still write to files owned by spot.) Open a terminal in /mnt/home/ or (where ever your .purple resides,) and type:
Code:
chown -R spot .purple
If for some reason that doesn't work, you can run pidgin as root:
Open /usr/local/bin/defaultchat with a text editor and change pidgin.sh to pidgin
Same goes for /usr/share/applications/pidgin.desktop, in the line that begins with Exec=

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 16:31    Post subject: Re: KDE4 workaround  

tazoc wrote:
Jim1911 wrote:
One problem: With 5KDE-4.6.5-x86_64-H.sfs and Gvfs-1.12.3-x86_64-3.sfs loaded, I am still unable to switch to the KDE window manager (WM). When WM tries to start it shows an error: "kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. The error code is 127." Clicking on OK provides the shutdown screen and allows me to switch to another WM. All other WM work fine
Thanks, Jim. KDE4 freezes shortly after starting here. So I pressed Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, and typed xwin openbox. Then this workaround works here. Copy and paste into a terminal:
Code:
rm -f /root/.kde/Autostart/pup_event
I hope that helps.


No change: It's possible that the problem is caused by a conflict with the NVIDIA driver. Here is the xorg.conf file that opens when I try to open the kstartupconfig4 file that is requested:
Code:
# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 319.23  (buildmeister@swio-display-x86-rhel47-11)  Thu May 16 20:17:21 PDT 2013

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    FontPath        "/usr/lib64/X11/fonts/local/"
    FontPath        "/usr/lib64/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/lib64/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/lib64/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/lib64/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath        "/usr/lib64/X11/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath        "/usr/lib64/X11/fonts/CID/"
    FontPath        "/usr/lib64/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
    FontPath        "/usr/lib64/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath        "/usr/lib64/X11/fonts/cyrillic/"
    FontPath        "/usr/lib64/X11/fonts/TTF/"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "Unknown"
    HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
    VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

PFind also opens the following bootinit.log
Code:
Booting Lighthouse64 602 k3.8.7
pmedia=atahd pdev1=sdb2 psubdir=Test4 pfix=fsck
 blacklist=nouveau
Temporarily enabling cpufreq-performance scaling governor for faster boot.

Loading drivers needed to access disk drives...
Waiting for usb partitions... 2 3 4 5 6
Locating main file and session files...
Performing filesystem check on /dev/sdb2...
Finding L64-602.sfs and L64save files...
Found 1 save file(s) loading main file and session file...

Loading savefile /Test4/L64save.4fs (sdb2)...
Performing filesystem check on savefile /dev/loop1...
Size=975.9MiB, 81% free

Found swap, loading main file /Test4/L64-602.sfs (sdb2)
Min RAM to copy: 378M free: 2923M... copying main file to RAM

Setting up the layered filesystem... PUPMODE=12
Layering with aufs up to 40 SFS files...
1 5_KDE-4.6.5-x86_64-H.sfs min to copy: 704M free: 2544M... copying to RAM.
2 BibleTime-2.9.1-x86_64-2.sfs min to copy: 58M free: 1840M... copying to RAM.
3 Devx-L64_602.sfs min to copy: 851M free: 1782M... copying to RAM.
4 Flash-11.2.202.291-x86_64.sfs min to copy: 11M free: 930M... copying to RAM.
5 Google-chrome-26.0-x86_64-1.sfs min to copy: 91M free: 919M... copying to RAM.
6 Gvfs-1.12.3-x86_64-3.sfs min to copy: 43M free: 827M... copying to RAM.
7 LibreOffice-4.0.3_64_en-US.sfs min to copy: 285M free: 783M... copying to RAM.
8 NLS_base-L64_602.sfs min to copy: 88M free: 498M... copying to RAM.
9 OpenJRE-7u40-IcedTea-x86_64.sfs min to copy: 87M free: 409M... copying to RAM.
10 Thunderbird-17.0.7-x86_64-1.sfs min to copy: 45M free: 321M... copying to RAM.
11 Transmission-2.75-x86_64-1.sfs min to copy: 18M free: 276M... copying to RAM.
12 Udisks2-2.0.1-x86_64-1.sfs min to copy: 2M free: 258M... copying to RAM.
13 VLC-2.0.6-x86_64-2.sfs min to copy: 67M free: 255M... copying to RAM.
14 Wine-1.5.28-i486_602.sfs min to copy: 201M free: 187M... mounting.
15 Xfce-4.10.0-1-x86_64-1.sfs min to copy: 30M free: 187M... copying to RAM.
Verifying aufs tables...
Checking for preconfig files in /mnt/dev_save/Test4/precfg...
Preparing for a 'switch_root' to the layered filesystem...
Kernel module nouveau was moved to /usr/lib64/x/modules to prevent loading.
I have no idea why these two files open when I am just trying to open "kstartupconfig4".

Thanks,
Jim
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 17:10    Post subject: Frugal without the USB stick  

edoc wrote:
OK, USB stick iso and partition complete.

Booted OK when I used the selection to bypass the problematic Radeon driver.

wlan0 connected fine.

Just rebooted and told it to create the savefile on sda4

QUESTION: Will I always have to boot with the USB stick or will I at some point be able to boot in Frugal without the USB stick?
Good job! If the installer shows a 'UEFI hard drive' (frugal install guide) button to the right, (on a machine with a GPT hard drive) you can try that. Let us know if you have any questions. The install guide (based on FD64's) is also here:
http://www.lhpup.org/help/faqs/uefi-harddrive.html
It only works on a machine with UEFI firmware, typically with Windows 7/8. If you don't have the 'UEFI hard drive' button in the Universal Installer, let us know.
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INSTALL NOTE: When one clicks on the Desktop Setup icon that menu shows a generic Puppy Universal Installer but when clicking on the Star icon in the bottom left corner then going to Setup the same app if labeled Lighthouse Universal Installer.
Yes, both launch the script /usr/sbin/puppyinstaller, modified for LH64.
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SETUP NOTE: It is unclear what to choose in order to browse compatible apps for LH64-602b2
Click the 'Install' icon on the desktop. That will direct you to compatible software; package names should contain 64, x86_64, AMD64 or 'noarch'. Lighthouse Update and PPM will only show those. Does that help?
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